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Marciano's KO of Walcott
Excellent video of Marciano's famous KO. Walcott was instantly out cold from the punch, it's makes me wonder why the ref even bothered to count. Say what you want about Marciano, but the Italian muther-fucker could punch. If i'm not mistaken, this KO was in the 13th round of a 15 round fight that Rocky was losing.
I like the way Marciano shuffled in and set himself before throwing his big right hand (Suzie Q) with everything on it. BTW, i'm glad Walcott was OK when he woke up after the punch. (he probably didn't feel a thing, but had a horrible headache the next day)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npz7kFB4Vo4
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re: Marciano's KO of Walcott
That little, quick double shuffle Marciano does to set distance was pretty wasn't it? The Rock didn't often do things technically well. But those times he did? The results were always explosive.
Anamazingly powerful man to weigh only 185 pounds.
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re: Marciano's KO of Walcott
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
That little, quick double shuffle Marciano does to set distance was pretty wasn't it? The Rock didn't often do things technically well. But those times he did? The results were always explosive.
Anamazingly powerful man to weigh only 185 pounds.
I've always like this quote by Mark Twain:
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."
It's also the reason why a pit bull can destroy a much bigger dog, despite his smaller size, he's solid muscle, powerful & built to fight, he's also totally fearless & confident, and will fight to the death.
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Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
That little, quick double shuffle Marciano does to set distance was pretty wasn't it? The Rock didn't often do things technically well. But those times he did? The results were always explosive.
Anamazingly powerful man to weigh only 185 pounds.
I've always like this quote by Mark Twain:
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."
It's also the reason why a pit bull can destroy a much bigger dog,
despite his smaller size, he's solid muscle, powerful & built to fight, he's also totally fearless & confident, and will fight to the death.
Pretty fair description of Marciano right there.
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One of my favorite KO's of all time! Marciano just never gave up...his nose was split open and he was almost stopped in the 12th if I'm not mistaken.
Walcott was a very cagey, tough fighter.
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And still.........Marciano fought old men past past prime. ;D
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El Kabong
One of my favorite KO's of all time! Marciano just never gave up...his nose was split open and he was almost stopped in the 12th if I'm not mistaken.
Walcott was a very cagey, tough fighter.
The split nose thing happened in his 2nd fight with Ezzard Charles, he came back to KO Charles in the 8th round.
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GOAT
And still.........Marciano fought old men past past prime. Just aks Joe Louis. ;D
Seriously GOAT, can the homo shit.
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El Kabong
One of my favorite KO's of all time! Marciano just never gave up...his nose was split open and he was almost stopped in the 12th if I'm not mistaken.
Walcott was a very cagey, tough fighter.
That was the second Ezzard Charles fight. Al Berl gave him one more round. 90 seconds later Charles was counted out.
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GOAT
And still.........Marciano fought old men past past prime. Just aks Joe Louis. ;D
This is such a distorted view. Marciano wrecked the division and I defy anyone to find a fight where Walcott was better than he was in the first fight with the Rock. Moore was 175 champ for another seven years after Rocky stopped him.
What's with the gay silliness by the way? You think that adds something here?
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Walcott only weighed 12 pounds heavier than rock did in the first fight and 13 pounds heavier in the second fight. 1 inch height advantage and 7 inch wingspan advantage. Vlad gets a hell of a lot more advantage than that in most of his fights.
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awdleyfuturehalloffamer
Walcott only weighed 12 pounds heavier than rock did in the first fight and 13 pounds heavier in the second fight. 1 inch height advantage and 7 inch wingspan advantage. Vlad gets a hell of a lot more advantage than that in most of his fights.
So what's your point?
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That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
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Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
How often is the guy draped over the ropes and unconscious? No real way for Rock to see that.
And yes, Rock was a dirty fighter.
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marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
How often is the guy draped over the ropes and unconscious? No real way for Rock to see that.
And yes, Rock was a dirty fighter.
Everyone could see Jersey was not getting up and Rocky still gave him a left hook for good measure.
His beating of Don Cockell was dirty and brutal.
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
How often is the guy draped over the ropes and unconscious? No real way for Rock to see that.
And yes, Rock was a dirty fighter.
Everyone could see Jersey was not getting up and Rocky still gave him a left hook for good measure.
His beating of Don Cockell was dirty and brutal.
Don Cockell was no saint himself in that fight. I'm ok with the occasional elbow, shoulder, grinding chin into someone's shoulder, shot on the hip etc.
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marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
How often is the guy draped over the ropes and unconscious? No real way for Rock to see that.
And yes, Rock was a dirty fighter.
Everyone could see Jersey was not getting up and Rocky still gave him a left hook for good measure.
His beating of Don Cockell was dirty and brutal.
Don Cockell was no saint himself in that fight. I'm ok with the occasional elbow, shoulder, grinding chin into someone's shoulder, shot on the hip etc.
Bernard Hopkins approves this message.
The ref let a lot of Rocky's illegal blows go.
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Re: Marciano's KO of Walcott
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Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
It's a dirty business, and Rocky was no Saint, but I don't believe he ever had a reputation as a dirty fighter. I'd agree that the last little shot on Walcott was late, but I don't think Marciano would have thrown it if he realized Walcott was unconscious, more like a reflex.
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Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
It's a dirty business, and Rocky was no Saint, but I don't believe he ever had a reputation as a dirty fighter. I'd agree that the last little shot on Walcott was late, but I don't believe Marciano would have thrown it if he realized Walcott was unconscious, more like a reflex.
Reflex of a dirty fighter. Over here in the UK particularly after the brutal beating of Don, he had the reputation. Good luck to him if he can get away with it, but he would have been disqualified if Dave Paris was reffing him. :)
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Re: Marciano's KO of Walcott
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
How often is the guy draped over the ropes and unconscious? No real way for Rock to see that.
And yes, Rock was a dirty fighter.
Arms, shoulders, hips etc. Greb was a dirty fighter as was Wilde. Norfolk was a thumber. Langford was probably thumbed more then anyone in boxing history. What we consider "dirty" today in many ways was "normal" fighting in past eras.
That punch was remarkable. A counter that looked like a lead. Perfect applied distance by Marciano. Instinctively knew it would get to the mark sooner even if Joe started to throw first.
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
It's a dirty business, and Rocky was no Saint, but I don't believe he ever had a reputation as a dirty fighter. I'd agree that the last little shot on Walcott was late, but I don't believe Marciano would have thrown it if he realized Walcott was unconscious, more like a reflex.
Reflex of a dirty fighter. Over here in the UK particularly after the brutal beating of Don, he had the reputation. Good luck to him if he can get away with it, but he would have been disqualified if Dave Paris was reffing him. :)
We expect nothing different from the Nation that thought the Minutemen were "cheating" by shooting from behind trees and rocks ;)
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All I know was that Walcott's legs opted to go on vacation before the end of the first round. I called the second fight round fourteen. The first one was great it brought out the best in both fighters. Rocky aged him.
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
It's a dirty business, and Rocky was no Saint, but I don't believe he ever had a reputation as a dirty fighter. I'd agree that the last little shot on Walcott was late, but I don't believe Marciano would have thrown it if he realized Walcott was unconscious, more like a reflex.
Reflex of a dirty fighter. Over here in the UK particularly after the brutal beating of Don, he had the reputation. Good luck to him if he can get away with it, but he would have been disqualified if Dave Paris was reffing him. :)
We expect nothing different from the Nation that thought the Minutemen were "cheating" by shooting from behind trees and rocks ;)
We also wore bright red as uniforms in the forest so that you could see us better as targets to be shot at. However we are not bitter.
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
It's a dirty business, and Rocky was no Saint, but I don't believe he ever had a reputation as a dirty fighter. I'd agree that the last little shot on Walcott was late, but I don't believe Marciano would have thrown it if he realized Walcott was unconscious, more like a reflex.
Reflex of a dirty fighter. Over here in the UK particularly after the brutal beating of Don, he had the reputation. Good luck to him if he can get away with it, but he would have been disqualified if Dave Paris was reffing him. :)
We expect nothing different from the Nation that thought the Minutemen were "cheating" by shooting from behind trees and rocks ;)
We also wore bright red as uniforms in the forest so that you could see us better as targets to be shot at. However we are not bitter.
And we Americans are exceedingly glad to hear that you got over it...after burning the White House of course.
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Re: Marciano's KO of Walcott
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
It's a dirty business, and Rocky was no Saint, but I don't believe he ever had a reputation as a dirty fighter. I'd agree that the last little shot on Walcott was late, but I don't believe Marciano would have thrown it if he realized Walcott was unconscious, more like a reflex.
Reflex of a dirty fighter. Over here in the UK particularly after the brutal beating of Don, he had the reputation. Good luck to him if he can get away with it, but he would have been disqualified if Dave Paris was reffing him. :)
We expect nothing different from the Nation that thought the Minutemen were "cheating" by shooting from behind trees and rocks ;)
We also wore bright red as uniforms in the forest so that you could see us better as targets to be shot at. However we are not bitter.
And we Americans are exceedingly glad to hear that you got over it...after burning the White House of course.
forgive and forget i say
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Re: Marciano's KO of Walcott
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
marbleheadmaui
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
Master
That was a brutal KO for sure but Rocky did not have to hit him again, this is not MMA. Rocky was a dirty fighter.
It's a dirty business, and Rocky was no Saint, but I don't believe he ever had a reputation as a dirty fighter. I'd agree that the last little shot on Walcott was late, but I don't believe Marciano would have thrown it if he realized Walcott was unconscious, more like a reflex.
Reflex of a dirty fighter. Over here in the UK particularly after the brutal beating of Don, he had the reputation. Good luck to him if he can get away with it, but he would have been disqualified if Dave Paris was reffing him. :)
We expect nothing different from the Nation that thought the Minutemen were "cheating" by shooting from behind trees and rocks ;)
We also wore bright red as uniforms in the forest so that you could see us better as targets to be shot at. However we are not bitter.
And we Americans are exceedingly glad to hear that you got over it...after burning the White House of course.
forgive and forget i say
Well alright then, just as long as you don't have another go at us, or try collecting those back taxes you think we might owe. ;)
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You saved us in the war all is forgiven, we have been bending over backwards ever since taking it from you guys that everyone hates us as much as they do you lot.
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Re: Marciano's KO of Walcott
Of course the freedom haters hate the us. They hate all freedom loving, Tyranist haters. When they can't enslave you with government, they hate you. When socialists/communists freedom haters hate you be proud and happy.