He proved he has a decent chin and good staminer...maybe if he fights Wlad again they have a bloody good plan B
job biscuit (and have a little more respect for your opponent)!!!
eh eh!!!
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He proved he has a decent chin and good staminer...maybe if he fights Wlad again they have a bloody good plan B
job biscuit (and have a little more respect for your opponent)!!!
eh eh!!!
Haye doesn't deserve another major fight. Hopefully, he retires.
job biscuit!!!
eh eh!!!
Haye put on a disgraceful show last night, and basically stole money from the people who saw it on PPV.
Oh...... and fuck Job AND his biscuit.
Eh, eh.
Oh i thought people had a issue with his stamina and chin but i guess there are alot of sad idiots who want to hate on Haye for going to Germany and trying to beat Goliath...if you were suckered in to the hype then you are stupid...it was going to be a tough assignment for Haye and Haye didn't do to badly...i think if they had a plan B it might have turned out alot better for Haye
Job Biscuit (peasents..don't believe the hype)!!!
eh eh!!!
You and Fenster and Hornfinger seem to be spouting the same line of bullshit.
"It was all hype.... you were all fools for believing it..... we're the smart ones because we knew better."
What kind of lame idiocy is that? How does the saying go.... "Hindsight is 20-20 vision"? Easy to sit back now and say it was all hype and there was never any hope. But..... does that make the fight any better? Does that make the lousy fight any better for boxing?
Hey.... at least we didn't have the fight on PPV over here. I watched it on HBO After Dark and I'm seriously considering requesting a refund for July's payment.
Fact of the matter is..... Haye did not put forth the amount of effort that was expected of him, considering this was a heavyweight championship fight, and lots of people paid hard-earned money to watch him fight. Hell.... you should be more pissed than any of us over here.
It does nothing for your credibility to continue debating the undebatable.
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.....I'm still awaiting a "You were right all along Lyle" thread.
Did I call it or did I call it?
Umm it's pretty easy to have good stamina if you only throw 6 punches around. :lickish:
I'll start it, although I did pick Wlad to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I think its alot to do with jealousy how you arm chair boxing fans can judge Haye the way you do...at least Haye trained and promoted the fight...what the hell have you done to deserve to judge Haye the way you do....NOTHING...all you had to do is get off your fat arse and turn on the television
Job Biscuit (Gob Shites)!!!
eh eh!!!
The only thing Haye proved is that he was well out of his depth against Wlad, has no class and when desperate he tries to cheat and get his opponent points deducted by throwing himself to the canvas in every round of the fight.
Stamina? He didn't throw any punches and spent the whole fight running away.
Chin? He got caught by a few good jabs and one half decent right hand which he was moving away from anyway, so he didn't take the full force of it.
Let's have it right, Wlad didn't exactly deliver some kind of boxing masterclass. All he did was stick a pawing jab in Haye's face for 12 rounds and that was enough to win a very one sided, easy decision.
Haye is a total fraud. The way he behaved in the build up and then the pathetic excuses about his toe tell you all you need to know about him. He has no class at all.
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Originally Posted by Otley
I resent that. I had to fill the cooler with beer, too.
The shiniest nail that stands the highest gets hammered down the hardest ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Otley
I was about to start a thread for Lyle, but screw it we got plenty of funny threads like this around already.
The only people that were right were the ones that called a PTS win. Hardly anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogI'll start it, although I did pick Wlad to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Lyle you got this more wrong than anyone. Wlad didn't fight any more aggressive than his norm. Same old, same old. He's only not getting stick because of the Haye fest ;)
Look don't get me wrong there were some things Haye did were below the belt but stealing money from the fans is not one of them...like alot here i was disappointed that Haye didn't get the win but you know what it happens and theres not much any one can do...Haye's tactics didn't work but if Haye landed we would all be slagging Wlad about his chin about now but it didn't...So WELL BLOODY DONE to WLAD
job biscuit (spooner)!!!
eh eh!!
Are you kidding man? I called Haye a fraud over 2 years ago and I said Wlad would have no trouble beating him (though I hadn't predicted a points win) but still I called it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThe only people that were right were the ones that called a PTS win. Hardly anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogI'll start it, although I did pick Wlad to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Lyle you got this more wrong than anyone. Wlad didn't fight any more aggressive than his norm. Same old, same old. He's only not getting stick because of the Haye fest ;)
....And people said Chisora was going to be a bad fight. I bet Derek would have put up a better fight than Haye.
Was waiting for this... Do you have ANY idea how much energy constantly moving your feet like that takes? Calling it running or what every you want but constantly evading and bumping shoulders with a bigger guy takes a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonaher1
Constantly moving on a broken toe no less! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBWas waiting for this... Do you have ANY idea how much energy constantly moving your feet like that takes? Calling it running or what every you want but constantly evading and bumping shoulders with a bigger guy takes a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonaher1
"For all his talk, I see Haye trying to be elusive and staying on the outside, so I'm going for a Wlad knockout in the middle to late rounds or a fairly comfortable points victory."
That's how I called it on here yesterday.;D
And I didn't even know anything about the broken toe!
Virtually everyone on earth called a Wlad win from day one. Big deal. He was the favourite.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongAre you kidding man? I called Haye a fraud over 2 years ago and I said Wlad would have no trouble beating him (though I hadn't predicted a points win) but still I called it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThe only people that were right were the ones that called a PTS win. Hardly anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogI'll start it, although I did pick Wlad to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Lyle you got this more wrong than anyone. Wlad didn't fight any more aggressive than his norm. Same old, same old. He's only not getting stick because of the Haye fest ;)
....And people said Chisora was going to be a bad fight. I bet Derek would have put up a better fight than Haye.
You've spent two years predicting a simple KO win. You've also been constantly predicting a more aggressive, exciting Wlad. It was far from that. Wlad couldn't even hurt him. Even Monte Barrett floored Haye, right? Hilarious.
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Originally Posted by AdamGBWas waiting for this... Do you have ANY idea how much energy constantly moving your feet like that takes? Calling it running or what every you want but constantly evading and bumping shoulders with a bigger guy takes a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdonaher1
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
Yes you did. You genius you, you agreed with what all the press and book makers and the majority on this forum, predicted. Wow you God of boxing knowledge you :rolleyes:
Didn't you say wlad would win by ko?
And you are sooooo brave for having supported the Barack Obama of heavyweight contenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Yes you did. You genius you, you agreed with what all the press and book makers and the majority on this forum, predicted. Wow you God of boxing knowledge you :rolleyes:
Didn't you say wlad would win by ko?
;D Lyle please say you havent requested a praise me thread for 'calling' this fight.
I reckon Haye has the tools to beat both Klits but unfortunatley he needs to get the right tactics....maybe he needs to get rid of Booth
job biscuit (but it could be to late)!!!
eh eh!!!
He couldn't back his own shit. That's what he proved.
He didn't prove much about his stamina. He only threw 290 punches!!!!
He proved he could survive, nothing more. He did almost nothing after round 4 (until the final round). He had success in rounds 3 and 4. Instead of trying to win the fight and up the attack at some point, he was happy to survive and try to minimize getting hit for rounds 5-11.
290 punches. What is the last fight that went 12 rounds and you recall a guy only throwing 290 punches??? That is a pathetic total. It is double what he threw against Valuev, but it is still pathetic.
He landed 57 punches. 57 punches and people think he did well. Most of the right hands didn't land clean or at all. He landed 4-5 good right hands in 12 rounds.
He pulled one over on all his fans and why not? You guys are still delusional and believing the bullshit he sells.
Bottom line is that he lost...could he have done anything different YES....he should get rid of Booth and give Roach a call....would Wlad give Haye a rematch...NO....Wlad knows he got Haye on a bad night and maybe next time with a better trainer and better tactics Haye will get to Wlad and knock him OUT!!!
job biscuit (judge yourself before you judge Haye)!!!
eh eh!!!
Man got to love it that some of you are still buying into his prefight bullshit. Woulda, coulda, shoulda but didn't! Bad night my ass, he had his shot but didn't do shit with it. Why in the hell should he need two tries against a " shit, robotic bum". Seriously some brit fans get blinded by their patriotism its insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Otley
I couldn't care less if Haye is from the UK....what i do care about is watching an elite fighter with all the tools to beat the Klits to ruin his chances due to bad tactics...he needs to sack Booth and get a decent tactician to go rip the heads off them terminator type Ukrainains...but the Klits will now run from any fight with Haye cause they know Haye and bad tactics and a bad toe...YES a TOE ruined a good fight...Does any one know why Haye kept falling on the floor...it was due to Wlad cheating (AGAIN) and the toe was giving Haye big problems
job biscuit (but nobody wants to face the truth)!!!
eh eh!!!
Right because I am sure you would defend some eastern european who put up a similar effort the same way. My bad toe, its so laughable...but whatever fuck it keep on thinking that wlad is scarred and got lucky, some of us have to be delusional.
Are you kidding?Quote:
Originally Posted by Otley
Wlad got Haye on a bad night? No, he just beat a very limited overhyped fighter with consumate ease.
Haye could have changed his tactics at any given moment in the fight, but he didn't because he COULDN'T. Every single time Haye tried to come forward he ended up missing by a couple of feet and almost fell over.
Haye was shown up for what he is - a fraud.