Helloooooo, Wlad Klitschko sucked almost as bad!!!

I was reading boxing news and Wlad says this or that about Haye. His video was funny, but really. Sure Haye was god awful, and a friggin disgrace to the sport and had the heart of a chicken, but to me, Wlad didn't do much better at all...

You would think Wlad woulda seized the opportunity when chicken shit wasn't throwing anything. Instead we got weak ass jabs all night. GAY.
Boring lame ass safety before pride tactics. GAY.
I woulda thrown some right hand bombs at that MF for mouthing and insulting me for two years straight. Haye woulda paid bigtime, like Wlad said he was going to do Haye.
Yeah sure.
Klitschko didn't do shit...

So Klitschko, shut up with all this mouth running regarding Haye.
Because you looked/fought almost as bad buddy!

....Wow......you must be some kind of bad ass :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

I was reading boxing news and Wlad says this or that about Haye. His video was funny, but really. Sure Haye was god awful, and a friggin disgrace to the sport and had the heart of a chicken, but to me, Wlad didn't do much better at all...

You would think Wlad woulda seized the opportunity when chicken shit wasn't throwing anything. Instead we got weak ass jabs all night. GAY.
Boring lame ass safety before pride tactics. GAY.
I woulda thrown some right hand bombs at that MF for mouthing and insulting me for two years straight. Haye woulda paid bigtime, like Wlad said he was going to do Haye.
Yeah sure.
Klitschko didn't do shit...

So Klitschko, shut up with all this mouth running regarding Haye.
Because you looked/fought almost as bad buddy!

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You are dlusional you wouldn't have done shit cause you woulda pissed yourself before making it to the ring.

Crazy guy has a point though right? ;)

I mean my point of view is since when did Wladimir really became exempt from being boring? What changed? Did we all fall in love with his charm and sense of humour?

Wlad was WINNING! What? You think he should change what's working to give the other guy a better chance?

The guy who is BEHIND is the guy who has to change things!

Wlad threw close to a shutout fer crying out loud.

I don't enjoy watching Wlad fight at all; but in general if a fight stinks I find it pretty hard to fault the guy who is comfortably winning rounds with a big lead, unless there is a huge disparity in class to begin with. It's a savage sport, if your opponent's output is letting you beat him without going balls out I can't imagine wanting to do so myself. Of course some fighters really do wish to entertain the crowd almost as much as they want to win, but those are usually the guys who eat through a straw by age 50, I'd imagine. From a neutral standpoint the way Wlad has handled the second half of his career is quite commendable, he's made a killing, established himself as an excellent champion and will have all of his faculties in tact when he leaves boxing. Why on earth would he want to change that.

Wlad woulda smashed tyson prime!!!
Let's get a real fag reply!!!
Quote me

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

Crazy guy has a point though right? ;)

I mean my point of view is since when did Wladimir really became exempt from being boring? What changed? Did we all fall in love with his charm and sense of humour?

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In my view this is SPORT not a rock concert. "Boring" is purely a matter of taste and ultimately irrelevant. Winning is what matters isn't it?

I mean does ANYONE want to make the argument that a fighter should fight in a fashion other than that which gives him the best chance to win?

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I don't enjoy watching Wlad fight at all; but in general if a fight stinks I find it pretty hard to fault the guy who is comfortably winning rounds with a big lead, unless there is a huge disparity in class to begin with. It's a savage sport, if your opponent's output is letting you beat him without going balls out I can't imagine wanting to do so myself. Of course some fighters really do wish to entertain the crowd almost as much as they want to win, but those are usually the guys who eat through a straw by age 50, I'd imagine. From a neutral standpoint the way Wlad has handled the second half of his career is quite commendable, he's made a killing, established himself as an excellent champion and will have all of his faculties in tact when he leaves boxing. Why on earth would he want to change that.

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I wish I'da written that!

Wlad should have kicked him

You also have to respect that it's the fear of getting caught which makes people fight so negatively against Wlad. For a guy with a dodgy chin to consistently dominate his opponent mentally like that is quite impressive as well, he's the epitome of a glass cannon in my eyes, only unlike most others he has recognized his flaws and built his style around it. Can you imagine if Wlad did come to the ring trying to put on a great show every time? He'd be the best example of a kill or be killed fighter in recent history.

whatever chumps. i was excited to see this big war, and was sorely disappointed.
disappointed in haye mostly. but klit ALSO is on the shit list.
where was the big right hand???
where were the "i'll make haye pay dearly" moments???
a guy that big, strong and smart, with that powerful of a right hand...doing absolutely nothing to an opponent who was scared to death??? In a huge fight with millions of viewers and fans watching?

Um, Yeah...I'd say I do have a good point.
Yeah he won, yay. But it was still fucking gay!!!
just like u wlad nutlickers.

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

whatever chumps. i was excited to see this big war, and was sorely disappointed.
disappointed in haye mostly. but klit ALSO is on the shit list.
where was the big right hand???
where were the "i'll make haye pay dearly" moments???
a guy that big, strong and smart, with that powerful of a right hand...doing absolutely nothing to an opponent who was scared to death??? In a huge fight with millions of viewers and fans watching?

Um, Yeah...I'd say I do have a good point.
Yeah he won, yay. But it was still fucking gay!!!
just like u wlad nutlickers.

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Its true. Vlad should have took more risks and went for the knockout but he was too scared on hayes speed and knockout power.
Bottom line is vitali would have been a bit more exicting...but then again this aint the ufc this is boxing and vlad was never going to be that kind of fighter, he stuck to what was working for him which was the jab and it worked.
Haye will retire and the klits will dominate for the next ten years.
Haye should change trainer and give it another crack.

[QUOTE=#1FightFan;990505]. i was excited to see this big war, and was sorely disappointed.
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You're an idiot.

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

whatever chumps. i was excited to see this big war, and was sorely disappointed.
disappointed in haye mostly. but klit ALSO is on the shit list.
where was the big right hand???

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it was never gonna be a war

wlad is always too cautious

i wanted haye to win, i put one bet on which was wlad by points and (at the risk of repeating myself) id have bet the fight would be boring if i could have

i can assure you wlads next fight will be boring, maybe he will score a late tko but until then it will be very frustrating

you may as well put that bet on now, i bet someone will give you odds for it

in fact put it on his next 5 fights being the same

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

whatever chumps. i was excited to see this big war, and was sorely disappointed.
disappointed in haye mostly. but klit ALSO is on the shit list.
where was the big right hand???
where were the "i'll make haye pay dearly" moments???
a guy that big, strong and smart, with that powerful of a right hand...doing absolutely nothing to an opponent who was scared to death??? In a huge fight with millions of viewers and fans watching?

Um, Yeah...I'd say I do have a good point.
Yeah he won, yay. But it was still fucking gay!!!
just like u wlad nutlickers.

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Bit of a contradiction of terms there calling others a Chump when you bought the fight too...

Anyone else here not buy the fight?

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

Crazy guy has a point though right? ;)

I mean my point of view is since when did Wladimir really became exempt from being boring? What changed? Did we all fall in love with his charm and sense of humour?

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Because of his pre-fight trash talk all eyes were on Haye.

And by that I mean that nobody that was watching this fight was watching anything Wladimir was doing, they were all watching Haye and waiting for him to do something. So you will have people say "Haye looked bad" but they won't say Wladimir was boring because they weren't watching him, after all the talk all eyes were locked in on Haye to see what he'd do and he didn't do much, so Wladimir didn't and won't take a lot of criticism because no one paid attention to him in this particular fight.

I know exactly what you're saying but as said Wlad does what's necessary to win. Nothing more, nothing less.

He is dull yes. For the sake of boxing a Haye win would have been the best outcome. The Ring had a go at him too.

I fought a guy on Fignt Night last night who jabbed me all ten rounds and I couldnt get close to engage. Sent him a message to say he may have won but he was fucking dull and scared of a tear up.

He never replied :confused:

Wlad won easily but he didn't dish out a beating. That was the biggest surprise for me

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

I know exactly what you're saying but as said Wlad does what's necessary to win. Nothing more, nothing less.

He is dull yes. For the sake of boxing a Haye win would have been the best outcome. The Ring had a go at him too.

I fought a guy on Fignt Night last night who jabbed me all ten rounds and I couldnt get close to engage. Sent him a message to say he may have won but he was fucking dull and scared of a tear up.

He never replied :confused:

Wlad won easily but he didn't dish out a beating. That was the biggest surprise for me

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Wlads got that down the pipe protective style, harder to finish someone out cold from there.

yeah I know

what would we give for another Tyson to come along

tell me about it!!! wlad klit is a robot just like haye said.
and to p4pking...i'm an idiot for telling the truth? maybe u should change yer name to P4PDouche!
FACT: a shitload of people expected a good fight, and were disappointed.

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

tell me about it!!! wlad klit is a robot just like haye said.
and to p4pking...i'm an idiot for telling the truth? maybe u should change yer name to P4PDouche!
FACT: a shitload of people expected a good fight, and were disappointed.

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....And they should blame David Haye. He's the one that didn't do what he said. Wlad never made any promises to do anything different. Wlad never billed himself as "The savior of the heavyweight division" unlike someone else.

Wlad does what he does, some people find it boring, some don't. I find talking a ton of shit and then not backing it up boring and just unnecessary, but maybe that's just me.

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

tell me about it!!! wlad klit is a robot just like haye said.
and to p4pking...i'm an idiot for telling the truth? maybe u should change yer name to P4PDouche!
FACT: a shitload of people expected a good fight, and were disappointed.

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It's very clear that you are an imbecile from your posts, but in this case moreso because you expected a war when neither fighter had been in a remotely exciting HW fight in recent times. A shitload of your intellectual peers were perhaps conned into thinking this would be a great scrap, and deserve to be dissapointed on a daily basis for the rest of their lives.

Wlad did say he was gona knock haye out. Why didnt he try using his right hand?! yes his jabs an awsum weapon and it kept haye at bay but who wants to watch jab fests between heavywieghts?!? Wlad kept pawing with his right after landing his jab so why not double up with the right hand??! wlads scarred of getting into any kind of war or not been able to hide behind his jab

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Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui

Wlad was WINNING! What? You think he should change what's working to give the other guy a better chance?

The guy who is BEHIND is the guy who has to change things!

Wlad threw close to a shutout fer crying out loud.

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I'm still stuck on the teeth. Personally I could have done with more right hands, but really is anyone else as over this fight as I am.

Its hard to look good when your opponent is just trying to survive. Wvlad has always been a cautious champ but he was going forward in this fight and was ahead. Cant blame Wvlad for this being poor. If Haye let his hands go Wvlad would have been forced to and we would have got a better fight. Instead Haye boxed like everyone else challenging the Klitschkos - No confidence and just wanting to hear the final bell.

We thought he was the man to bring some life and ambition back into the division. Now he moves aside and its Adameks turn

Only the wishful thinkers and straight up novices would have expected this fight to be a " WAR ".. smh

He almost sucked as bad except in the categories of rounds won, punches thrown, punches landed, and willingness to fight. The only edge Haye had in anything was bullshitting and total distance traveled on foot.

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Originally Posted by global

He almost sucked as bad except in the categories of rounds won, punches thrown, punches landed, and willingness to fight. The only edge Haye had in anything was bullshitting and total distance traveled on foot.

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It really does create a possible new nickname for Haye.

Hidalgo.

Considering both are big punchers and both have relatively soft chins for the HW division, it should have been obvious why this fight became more technical.

I didn't even really MIND Wlad vs Haye, it was a pure example of an all-skills fight. It has been regarded as a "high-level fencing match".

You can criticise Haye on his workrate sure.

Maybe it was because both fighters are so good and they both knew it that caution was the only wise approach to the fight. In the end Haye found out Wlad's length and strength were not so easy to surmount as he figured and was discouraged. Nobody was ever in serious trouble in that fight as a result.

I reckon Wlad can be excused for being boring in this fight since it was one of his best opponents and he still won a comfortable UD.

There was nothing resembling "cheating" in this fight either to pick on. Sorry that Wlad and Haye didn't stand in front of each other and trade punches like HW's of old until one of them dropped.

You complain about a winner!

There are rougher/tougher HW's out there right now who like to fight more like that but you don't want to support them either.