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I'd love to see this!!!!
Is it a credible match-up I think yes, Rios is physically bigger than PAC if it happens next year Rios at 26 would be close to his prime. Rios is no coward that's for sure, young and destructive. Hopefully this happens next after the Marquez fight. Wohoooooooooooooo!!!
Are you insane?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
You want this over the Mayweather fight? Pacquiao is getting shit for his opponents already how bad will it look if he fights another Lightweight whose best win is Miguel Acosta. I'm as big on Rios as anyone, but this would be a joke of a fight right now.
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Originally Posted by JazMerkinAre you insane?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
You want this over the Mayweather fight? Pacquiao is getting shit for his opponents already how bad will it look if he fights another Lightweight whose best win is Miguel Acosta. I'm as big on Rios as anyone, but this would be a joke of a fight right now.
A joke of a fight is a bit harsh. Rios is a tough ask for anybody and at 25 and completely unbeaten is the kind of fighter Floyd, Manny et al have long been accused of avoiding on their way to the top.
Stoppage wins over Antillon, Acosta and Anthony Peterson (well DQ but that was deliberate as he was being dominated) is a prettydamn impressive resume for a young kid on the rise.
Clearly we all want Manny vs Mayweather, but if this fight doesn't happen there are much worse fights to be made than this.
Personally though I'd rather see Rios at junior welter in the Bradley, Khan, Judah, Alexander, Matthyse, Guerreo mix.
That division is looking very very nice lately.
Hype. The death on many a fine but rushed to market young fighter. Have we forgotten how to let a fighter develope?! He ain't ready for Manny...not today...not tomorrow...he ain't ready. I think he fights a softish high exposure touch, Barrera, and then moves up to 140. Annnnnd breathe 1,2,3...
After JMM beat's Manny Pacquiao a 3rd time, i don't think Rios will be interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
omg you too ice i thought it's only VD:(Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBAfter JMM beat's Manny Pacquiao a 3rd time, i don't think Rios will be interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
Marquez will get stopped if he faces Pac again imo.
He's been floored by Casamayor, Diaz and Katsidis since last facing Manny. He's on the slide and gets busted up big time imo.
I'd pick Khan, Rios, Gurrero and Bradley to all beat him at this point.
i think this is the only PAC fight of recent(JMM) that I will not be having panic attacks, it's in the bag. It's a disappointment though if PAC does not kayo JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBAfter JMM beat's Manny Pacquiao a 3rd time, i don't think Rios will be interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
floored by Diaz:-\ but you're right he is on the slide:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
It was funny watching Bob say how Rios could match Pacs intensity and speed. While both Robert Garcia and Rios are standing there with the wtf look in their faces. ;D
Bob Arum: "Yea Rios is the guy I think can match Pacs intensity and speed and it would be a good fight".
Robert Garcia: (thinking in his head) "Oh not that guy again, is Bob on crack? He'd kill Rios".
Brandon Rios: (thinking in his head) "Fxck that, I just seen what he did to my big homies face. Is Bob on crack?
He wasn't floored by Casamayor, plus Manny Pacquiao hasn't faced a real good boxer in ages. Notice all his lastest opponents have been pressure fighter's, and that isn't the way to beat Manny Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Just supporting my fighter JMM is my favourite current fighter, and i've rooted for him for years. And that's not going to change whether he's up against it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlikomg you too ice i thought it's only VD:(Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBAfter JMM beat's Manny Pacquiao a 3rd time, i don't think Rios will be interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
ShaneQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBHe wasn't floored by Casamayor, plus Manny Pacquiao hasn't faced a real good boxer in ages. Notice all his lastest opponents have been pressure fighter's, and that isn't the way to beat Manny Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Margarito
Clottey
Cotto
Only Tony was dumb enough to keep coming forward.
Mosley is washed up and didn't even fight, all the other fighters you mentioned are all pressure fighter's who come forward. None of those fighter's are good on the backfoot like JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainShaneQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBHe wasn't floored by Casamayor, plus Manny Pacquiao hasn't faced a real good boxer in ages. Notice all his lastest opponents have been pressure fighter's, and that isn't the way to beat Manny Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Margarito
Clottey
Cotto
Only Tony was dumb enough to keep coming forward.
Who fought like a pressure fighter though? I dont know about you but the recent fighters pac has face were running the hell away from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBMosley is washed up and didn't even fight, all the other fighters you mentioned are all pressure fighter's who come forward. None of those fighter's are good on the backfoot like JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainShaneQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBHe wasn't floored by Casamayor, plus Manny Pacquiao hasn't faced a real good boxer in ages. Notice all his lastest opponents have been pressure fighter's, and that isn't the way to beat Manny Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Margarito
Clottey
Cotto
Only Tony was dumb enough to keep coming forward.
Im not saying JMM will win, what im saying is style wise he cause's more of a problem than those guy's did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainWho fought like a pressure fighter though? I dont know about you but the recent fighters pac has face were running the hell away from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBMosley is washed up and didn't even fight, all the other fighters you mentioned are all pressure fighter's who come forward. None of those fighter's are good on the backfoot like JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainShaneQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBHe wasn't floored by Casamayor, plus Manny Pacquiao hasn't faced a real good boxer in ages. Notice all his lastest opponents have been pressure fighter's, and that isn't the way to beat Manny Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Margarito
Clottey
Cotto
Only Tony was dumb enough to keep coming forward.
Joshua Clottey is flat footed and plod's foward behind a high guard.
Miguel Cotto is a good pressure fighter, but far too slow for Manny Pacquiao. And he can't fight well going backward's which is why he lost to Margarito.
I already said about Mosley.
And Antonio Margarito is all about pressure, but has no defense and is far too slow.
The way to beat Manny Pacquiao is make him come too you. Because he often goes off balance, and he even showed that in the Shane Mosley fight, plus if you look at the fighter's who gave him the most problem's Morales, Marquez.
What did they have in common ? they both fought brilliant on the backfoot, and counter punched very effectively making Manny Pacquiao off balance. None of the fighter's above are good at fighting on the backfoot, maybe Shane Mosley was at one point. But certainly not that version of Shane Mosley.
Is JMM the big underdog ? of course he is. But he was the underdog in the other two meeting's aswell. I think people will be shocked and JMM will still give Manny Pacquiao alot of problem's stylistically.
Im glad you said that, that means you can't say JMM lost cause of weight and he too is washed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBIm not saying JMM will win, what im saying is style wise he cause's more of a problem than those guy's did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainWho fought like a pressure fighter though? I dont know about you but the recent fighters pac has face were running the hell away from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBMosley is washed up and didn't even fight, all the other fighters you mentioned are all pressure fighter's who come forward. None of those fighter's are good on the backfoot like JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainShaneQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBHe wasn't floored by Casamayor, plus Manny Pacquiao hasn't faced a real good boxer in ages. Notice all his lastest opponents have been pressure fighter's, and that isn't the way to beat Manny Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Margarito
Clottey
Cotto
Only Tony was dumb enough to keep coming forward.
Joshua Clottey is flat footed and plod's foward behind a high guard.
Miguel Cotto is a good pressure fighter, but far too slow for Manny Pacquiao. And he can't fight well going backward's which is why he lost to Margarito.
I already said about Mosley.
And Antonio Margarito is all about pressure, but has no defense and is far too slow.
The way to beat Manny Pacquiao is make him come too you. Because he often goes off balance, and he even showed that in the Shane Mosley fight, plus if you look at the fighter's who gave him the most problem's Morales, Marquez.
What did they have in common ? they both fought brilliant on the backfoot, and counter punched very effectively making Manny Pacquiao off balance. None of the fighter's above are good at fighting on the backfoot, maybe Shane Mosley was at one point. But certainly not that version of Shane Mosley.
Is JMM the big underdog ? of course he is. But he was the underdog in the other two meeting's aswell. I think people will be shocked and JMM will still give Manny Pacquiao alot of problem's stylistically.
I don't think JMM is shot but he's obviously not at his peak, and he will be fighting out of his peak weight. I won't be making any excuses though, but come on you have to be realistic here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainIm glad you said that, that means you can't say JMM lost cause of weight and he too is washed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBIm not saying JMM will win, what im saying is style wise he cause's more of a problem than those guy's did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainWho fought like a pressure fighter though? I dont know about you but the recent fighters pac has face were running the hell away from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBMosley is washed up and didn't even fight, all the other fighters you mentioned are all pressure fighter's who come forward. None of those fighter's are good on the backfoot like JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainShaneQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBHe wasn't floored by Casamayor, plus Manny Pacquiao hasn't faced a real good boxer in ages. Notice all his lastest opponents have been pressure fighter's, and that isn't the way to beat Manny Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Margarito
Clottey
Cotto
Only Tony was dumb enough to keep coming forward.
Joshua Clottey is flat footed and plod's foward behind a high guard.
Miguel Cotto is a good pressure fighter, but far too slow for Manny Pacquiao. And he can't fight well going backward's which is why he lost to Margarito.
I already said about Mosley.
And Antonio Margarito is all about pressure, but has no defense and is far too slow.
The way to beat Manny Pacquiao is make him come too you. Because he often goes off balance, and he even showed that in the Shane Mosley fight, plus if you look at the fighter's who gave him the most problem's Morales, Marquez.
What did they have in common ? they both fought brilliant on the backfoot, and counter punched very effectively making Manny Pacquiao off balance. None of the fighter's above are good at fighting on the backfoot, maybe Shane Mosley was at one point. But certainly not that version of Shane Mosley.
Is JMM the big underdog ? of course he is. But he was the underdog in the other two meeting's aswell. I think people will be shocked and JMM will still give Manny Pacquiao alot of problem's stylistically.
The reason why many are against JMM, is because he's been in so many tough battles. And he will be moving up to a weightclass he didn't look comfortable at before.
And he is in his late 30's, i don't remember a fighter at the lower weightclasses. In recent memory being that successful in there late 30's.
I mean Floyd Mayweather Jr didn't get much credit for beating JMM at 147, i didn't give him much credit either.
But i just think style wise JMM can still cause a problem.
Why all this talk about Rio's? I'd much rather see him fight Bradley, Alvarez or better yet Ortiz after he knocks out Mayweather.
Nicely put!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
But think about 18 months from now. Rios has say six fights in the interim and learns from every one. Manny has 2-3 and is showing his age. THAT might not be crazy.
Nice post. My own guess is JMM has never seen THIS Manny before. The technically decent, reasonably balanced guy who can, on occasion, show top drawer footwork and now a good right hand. I think it's too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI don't think JMM is shot but he's obviously not at his peak, and he will be fighting out of his peak weight. I won't be making any excuses though, but come on you have to be realistic here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainIm glad you said that, that means you can't say JMM lost cause of weight and he too is washed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBIm not saying JMM will win, what im saying is style wise he cause's more of a problem than those guy's did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainWho fought like a pressure fighter though? I dont know about you but the recent fighters pac has face were running the hell away from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBMosley is washed up and didn't even fight, all the other fighters you mentioned are all pressure fighter's who come forward. None of those fighter's are good on the backfoot like JMM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainShaneQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBHe wasn't floored by Casamayor, plus Manny Pacquiao hasn't faced a real good boxer in ages. Notice all his lastest opponents have been pressure fighter's, and that isn't the way to beat Manny Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Margarito
Clottey
Cotto
Only Tony was dumb enough to keep coming forward.
Joshua Clottey is flat footed and plod's foward behind a high guard.
Miguel Cotto is a good pressure fighter, but far too slow for Manny Pacquiao. And he can't fight well going backward's which is why he lost to Margarito.
I already said about Mosley.
And Antonio Margarito is all about pressure, but has no defense and is far too slow.
The way to beat Manny Pacquiao is make him come too you. Because he often goes off balance, and he even showed that in the Shane Mosley fight, plus if you look at the fighter's who gave him the most problem's Morales, Marquez.
What did they have in common ? they both fought brilliant on the backfoot, and counter punched very effectively making Manny Pacquiao off balance. None of the fighter's above are good at fighting on the backfoot, maybe Shane Mosley was at one point. But certainly not that version of Shane Mosley.
Is JMM the big underdog ? of course he is. But he was the underdog in the other two meeting's aswell. I think people will be shocked and JMM will still give Manny Pacquiao alot of problem's stylistically.
The reason why many are against JMM, is because he's been in so many tough battles. And he will be moving up to a weightclass he didn't look comfortable at before.
And he is in his late 30's, i don't remember a fighter at the lower weightclasses. In recent memory being that successful in there late 30's.
I mean Floyd Mayweather Jr didn't get much credit for beating JMM at 147, i didn't give him much credit either.
But i just think style wise JMM can still cause a problem.
On the late 30's lower division guys, that really is rare isn't it? Zaragoza is the only guy in the last 15 yeares who comes to mind. Before that Azumah Nelson. But that may exhaust my memory.
Roll call for people who think JMM is going to beat pac:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlikomg you too ice i thought it's only VD:(Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBAfter JMM beat's Manny Pacquiao a 3rd time, i don't think Rios will be interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlik
CutmeMick
ICB
VD
Snakey
Its going to happen ;)