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This is the best boxing news I've heard in a while, however soft on them corrupt judges. I think they should never be allowed to judge again, and forced to pay a huge fine. Oh well, at least someone is doing something about these horrible decisions lately.
Boxing - Williams-Lara judges suspended
I agree. they should never judge again. They can't be trusted in my opinion, the decision was absolutely horrible and something corrupt is going on. I know i would never want them to judge one of my fights if i were a boxer, unless i'm PWill;D
Now Lara needs to officially protest the decision, and worst case scenario, get the fight declared a no contest. Does anyone recall a decision getting reversed?
Wow. I have to admit that I'm really surprised.
For that to happen, something's up? Immediate rematch should be declared within 90 days.
Really bad idea. There's no allegation of corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Stuff happens. Suck it up and ask for a rematch.
Good for New Jersey! The sad news is Texas has a slew of bad judges ready to screw over another fighter.....Gayle Van Hoy anyone???
Lara is begging for a rematch. Goosen has his sights on cashing out with a 3rd Martinez fight as it makes more money for his company and his fighter before PW is retired violently.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiReally bad idea. There's no allegation of corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Stuff happens. Suck it up and ask for a rematch.
Does anyone think a PW/Martinez fight can be credibly sold?Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddewLara is begging for a rematch. Goosen has his sights on cashing out with a 3rd Martinez fight as it makes more money for his company and his fighter before PW is retired violently.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiReally bad idea. There's no allegation of corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Stuff happens. Suck it up and ask for a rematch.
Wouldn't PW have to beat someone impressively in the interim?
Wow? No kidding. Glad to hear it and great to see a touch of what is a huge void for boxing...accountability!
rumor going around is that Goosen is trying hard for the Martinez fight and has thrown out Molina (who beat Cintron and previously drew with Lara) as another possibility. I could see him fighting Molina as it is a credible name, who isn't a southpaw.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiDoes anyone think a PW/Martinez fight can be credibly sold?Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddewLara is begging for a rematch. Goosen has his sights on cashing out with a 3rd Martinez fight as it makes more money for his company and his fighter before PW is retired violently.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiReally bad idea. There's no allegation of corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Stuff happens. Suck it up and ask for a rematch.
Wouldn't PW have to beat someone impressively in the interim?
the judges should be forced to watch Haye vs Valuev on a loop for an entire week. That should be punishment enough.
Yup. That'd make sense. But that looks like a risky fight to me for PW. Molina seems to really be feeling it.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddewrumor going around is that Goosen is trying hard for the Martinez fight and has thrown out Molina (who beat Cintron and previously drew with Lara) as another possibility. I could see him fighting Molina as it is a credible name, who isn't a southpaw.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiDoes anyone think a PW/Martinez fight can be credibly sold?Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddewLara is begging for a rematch. Goosen has his sights on cashing out with a 3rd Martinez fight as it makes more money for his company and his fighter before PW is retired violently.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiReally bad idea. There's no allegation of corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Stuff happens. Suck it up and ask for a rematch.
Wouldn't PW have to beat someone impressively in the interim?
Geebuz H Christmas, they didn't KILL anyone!Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
I find it very surprising that the board would suspend judges based on what they thing is poor scoring. Perhaps no one advised them that the camera's view is not the same as the 3 judges. So unless they had other reasons for the suspension, I think its just another bad call.
Keeps boxing in the news, HBO didn't agree with a decision, let's suspend the judges. There's been a lot of questionable decisions lately, they should suspend them all if that's the case. This is an era where when you lose a fight, the judges can be suspended and you can protest the fight be declared a no contest, and when you can sue another fighter for pre fight trash talk. Just suck it up and fight again. If they are really about ridding corruption in the sport than fine, but if this is just an isolated incident because it gets national attention then its just another tease.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
I said this in the other thread. 8 of Williams' last 10 opponents were southpaws. The two who weren't, Cintron & Margarito, weren't having trouble finding him either. For whatever reason, they've clearly aimed to match him with lefties where possible. Southpaws aren't the problem. Williams & what he's being taught are.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddewrumor going around is that Goosen is trying hard for the Martinez fight and has thrown out Molina (who beat Cintron and previously drew with Lara) as another possibility. I could see him fighting Molina as it is a credible name, who isn't a southpaw.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiDoes anyone think a PW/Martinez fight can be credibly sold?Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddewLara is begging for a rematch. Goosen has his sights on cashing out with a 3rd Martinez fight as it makes more money for his company and his fighter before PW is retired violently.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiReally bad idea. There's no allegation of corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Stuff happens. Suck it up and ask for a rematch.
Wouldn't PW have to beat someone impressively in the interim?
Didnt williams land and throw more punches? If Lara wanted to win he should have stepped on the gas more.
Yeah this suprises me but I have a feeling that something is fishy here. I think either the poster before me who said that they are doing it because HBO doesn't agree with the decision and it keeps boxing in the news might be on to something. Either that or someone has discovered legitimate evidence of a shady deal and the facts haven't come out. Don't get me wrong I think that this is great but there have been worse decisions over the years where no judges has been suspended so I will reserve judgement for now because that leads me to believe that all of the facts have not been brought to light.
Threw more, landed fewer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
If you think Compubox is compelling? By total number of punches landed Lara wins 6-3-3.
By power punches? Lara wins 7-4-1.
FWIW
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Pro boxing judging doesnt have a clear cut way of scoring, just who you think gave a better impression during a round and because of this, how can anyone be wrong?
There are too many interpretations of wjat wins a round and because of it you get instances like this. If we were sat ringside looking up at the action from one fixed position we would see different to what the TV shows us.
They were not suspended for the decision, one judge was showing his card and talking to one of williams promoters during the fight, at least that is what they are saying and showing with photo's and video.
You must not have watched the fight Hunter, Lara landed nearly 60%-70% of the effective punches, and about the same percent of the power punches in the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
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Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiReally bad idea. There's no allegation of corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Stuff happens. Suck it up and ask for a rematch.
dude whats wrong with you? are u paul williams little brother or something?
everyone and their momma is outraged by this decision, but you.
hell, i was rooting for paul too, but the fact remains he got owned, easily.
wake up! this is what is bad about boxing! corruption, and the decision always going to the popular fighter, whether they actually win or not.
Um MORON? I called this a robbery, a word I almost never use (because it is almost never true).Quote:
Originally Posted by #1FightFanQuote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiReally bad idea. There's no allegation of corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Stuff happens. Suck it up and ask for a rematch.
dude whats wrong with you? are u paul williams little brother or something?
everyone and their momma is outraged by this decision, but you.
hell, i was rooting for paul too, but the fact remains he got owned, easily.
wake up! this is what is bad about boxing! corruption, and the decision always going to the popular fighter, whether they actually win or not.
And there is no logical reason to link that view to any particular remedy. Endorsing protested fights and appealing decisions etc sends boxing down a TERRIBLE path.
Go for the rematch.
This is good news, Lara especially has really made some corrupt judging.
I hope we see this happen more often
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Originally Posted by marbleheadmauiGeebuz H Christmas, they didn't KILL anyone!Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
This is a good post for a prolific poster.
They would not have scored so badly if they allowed their seeing eye dogs to do the math instead.