Small areas that have produced a lot of quality fighters
I don't know how many people caught the Peter Quillin fight on Khan's undercard a few weeks back, but the commentator came up with a fact that I was amazed by.
Quillin had grown up on a street in Grand Rapids called Cass Avenue. That same street has also produced Floyd Mayweather Jr, James Toney, Floyd Sr, Roger Mayweather, Jeff Mayweather, Tony Tucker & Buster Mathis Sr & Jr. Definitely not the place to pick a fight evidently.
That's pretty damn impressive to have come all out of one street, particularly in a city as small as Grand Rapids. I mean you've obviously got the family link in there with the Mayweathers & the Mathis', but the fact it wasn't just one gym churning them all out makes it all the more impressive for me.
So I was wondering if anyone else knew of any other examples where one small area has produced a range of quality fighters?
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Pacquiao and Donaire both came from General Santos City, Philippines.
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Pacquiao and Donaire both came from General Santos City, Philippines.
I probably should have been more specific. I mean like an area within a city. So like Harlem in New York or Moss Side in Manchester (random examples). Even there, I'd be curious if there were a group from a smaller area within those places.
General Santos City is a decent sized city I believe. Did they grow up in the same area?
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Croydon, England.
Wayne Alexander
The Mckenzie Brothers
Albert Finch - Inflicted Randy Turpin's first defeat PTS 8
Chas Symonds - Southern area champ at welter
Gary Logan - Southern area champ at welter also
I'm sure there's a few more but it's late and i'm knackered so can't think straight ;D
I'd be very surprised if many (or any non brits had heard of Logan and Symonds)
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How about the Welsh lads? How close are Joe, Enzo, Nathan and Gavin to each other geographically?
Wladimir and Vitali both came from the same womb. Doesn't get more specific than that.
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Also, Maui won't be pleased you've stolen one of his thread ideas.
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Bilbo
Also, Maui won't be pleased you've stolen one of his thread ideas.
Goddamned ingrates!
How about Brownsville in Brooklyn? A neighborhood of about 100l people. Tyson, Bowe, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Bummy Davis, Zab Judah, Daniel Jocabs and Shannon Briggs. That's not too bad.
Back in the day Manhattan's Lower East Side Italian and Jewish Ghettos were just loaded.
Benny Leonard, Al Singer, Tony Graziano etc.
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armyash
Croydon, England.
Wayne Alexander
The Mckenzie Brothers
Albert Finch - Inflicted Randy Turpin's first defeat PTS 8
Chas Symonds - Southern area champ at welter
Gary Logan - Southern area champ at welter also
I'm sure there's a few more but it's late and i'm knackered so can't think straight ;D
I'd be very surprised if many (or any non brits had heard of Logan and Symonds)
Quality fighters goddammit ;D
That's not a bad shout, but I'd deliberatly left off areas of London, because I guess I'd feel a place has to have at least 1 legit hall of famer & then some other quality fighters.
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How about the Welsh lads? How close are Joe, Enzo, Nathan and Gavin to each other geographically?
Not a bad shout at all. Both Calzaghe & Rees are from Newbridge & Cleverly is from Caerphilly, which I'd assume are close. You're the Welsh one, you'd know. Enzo Mac was from Swansea though, so I don't know if he really counts.
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Goddamned ingrates!
How about Brownsville in Brooklyn? A neighborhood of about 100l people. Tyson, Bowe, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Bummy Davis, Zab Judah, Daniel Jocabs and Shannon Briggs. That's not too bad.
Back in the day Manhattan's Lower East Side Italian and Jewish Ghettos were just loaded.
Benny Leonard, Al Singer, Tony Graziano etc.
Brownsville came to mind, but I wasn't sure how big the area was. According to wiki, just the one square mile. So that's pretty special.
Although I still give the edge to Cass Avenue, they've got 2 HoFers to Brownsville's 1.
Didn't Louisville have a load of HW champs who came out of one place? Ali & Ellis I know were from near each other, but were there others?
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Accra Ghana , Azumah Nelson - Ike Quartey - Alfred Kotey -
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well seeing how Caguas, PR has less than 150,000 residents and has spawned such fighters like Miguel Cotto, Jose Miguel Cotto, Juanma Lopez, Alfredo Escalera, and former title challenger in Juan Carazo, i think it qualifies
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I think we should take this time to acknowledge just how shit China are. Half the world's population and............
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armyash
Croydon, England.
Wayne Alexander
The Mckenzie Brothers
Albert Finch - Inflicted Randy Turpin's first defeat PTS 8
Chas Symonds - Southern area champ at welter
Gary Logan - Southern area champ at welter also
I'm sure there's a few more but it's late and i'm knackered so can't think straight ;D
I'd be very surprised if many (or any non brits had heard of Logan and Symonds)
Quality fighters goddammit ;D
That's not a bad shout, but I'd deliberatly left off areas of London, because I guess I'd feel a place has to have at least 1 legit hall of famer & then some other quality fighters.
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How about the Welsh lads? How close are Joe, Enzo, Nathan and Gavin to each other geographically?
Not a bad shout at all. Both Calzaghe & Rees are from Newbridge & Cleverly is from Caerphilly, which I'd assume are close. You're the Welsh one, you'd know. Enzo Mac was from Swansea though, so I don't know if he really counts.
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Goddamned ingrates!
How about Brownsville in Brooklyn? A neighborhood of about 100l people. Tyson, Bowe, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Bummy Davis, Zab Judah, Daniel Jocabs and Shannon Briggs. That's not too bad.
Back in the day Manhattan's Lower East Side Italian and Jewish Ghettos were just loaded.
Benny Leonard, Al Singer, Tony Graziano etc.
Brownsville came to mind, but I wasn't sure how big the area was. According to wiki, just the one square mile. So that's pretty special.
Although I still give the edge to Cass Avenue, they've got 2 HoFers to Brownsville's 1.
Didn't Louisville have a load of HW champs who came out of one place? Ali & Ellis I know were from near each other, but were there others?
:p
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Gauteng & Eastern Cape, South Africa.
Gauteng:
Gerrie Coetzee
Brian Mitchell
Dingaan Thobela
Corrie Sanders
Peter Mathebula
Jacob Matlala
Lehlohonolo Ledwaba
Pierre Fourie
Johnny DuPlooy
Eastern Cape:
Mbulelo Botile
Vuyani Bungu
Ali Funeka
Welcome Ncita
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i think we should take this time to acknowledge just how shit china are. Half the world's population and............
Hahaha
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Dark Lord Al
Accra Ghana , Azumah Nelson - Ike Quartey - Alfred Kotey -
VERY nicely done!
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Dark Lord Al
Accra Ghana , Azumah Nelson - Ike Quartey - Alfred Kotey -
Sorry mate, but Accra is a city of like 4m people. Not really a small area :p
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well seeing how Caguas, PR has less than 150,000 residents and has spawned such fighters like Miguel Cotto, Jose Miguel Cotto, Juanma Lopez, Alfredo Escalera, and former title challenger in Juan Carazo, i think it qualifies
I wasn't immediately that convinced by this, as what I'm talking about is people growing up close within an area of about 1 square mile. But it seems that, Juanma aside, all those guys grew up in the Bairoa area, as did Julian Solis.
So that would make my list of impressive areas so far - Brownsville, New York, Bairoa, Caguas & Cass Ave, Grand Rapids.
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I think we should take this time to acknowledge just how shit China are. Half the world's population and............
Yeah, although they've apparently decided to try and get good at boxing recently (hence Barrera going over there a few years ago). They'll probably take over boxing in about 25 years. Which won't be too bad because they'll probably take over the world in 15 :p
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Ok then how about Carl Thompson and Amir Khan both from my town Bolton England.Also Tony Ekubia lives a few hundred yards from me.
Bolton is a town not a city.
