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Best British boxers never to win world title
Herol Graham, Colin jones, Michael Watson, pat Cowdell, and of course not forgetting the "A Force"
Any other suggestions?
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You had to go and throw the A Farce in there, immediately marking this as a joke thread! ;)
As a Welshman I'll throw forward the name of Nicky Piper, and for my serious pick James DeGale.
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Herol Graham, one point unfairly deducted against McCallum cost him the draw, Julian Jackson corner about throw towel in before you know what, come out of retirement and knocking down Brewer (twice) in his home town before being stopped, cannot get more unlucky than that.
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Herol Graham without a doubt
closely followed by Pele Reid and Takaloo
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Chris Eubanks WBO title should not count either.
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ryanman
Kirkland Laing.
Definately
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It's Bomber Graham imo.
Tony Sibson is one that hasn't been mentioned yet.
Billy Schwer was doing very well against Ruelas before the bruising.
Henry Wharton came close
Michael Watson
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Master
Herol Graham, one point unfairly deducted against McCallum cost him the draw, Julian Jackson corner about throw towel in before you know what, come out of retirement and knocking down Brewer (twice) in his home town before being stopped, cannot get more unlucky than that.
I thought Herol Graham legitmately lost to Mike McCallum, Sumbu Kalambay 1. But he for 100 percent should of got the nod in the rematch against Sumbu Kalambay. Herol Graham wasn't really defensive in the Sumbu Kalambay fights, he got hit very often.
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Toffeefist
Herol Graham, Colin jones, Michael Watson, pat Cowdell, and of course not forgetting the "A Force"
Any other suggestions?
'Parcel Force' Harrison was WBF HW champion.:o
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Mark TKO
Herol Graham without a doubt
closely followed by Pele Reid and Takaloo
Takaloo?:-\
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Some good names mentioned.
Don't want to sound harsh but just quickly checked out Watson's record before posting and he had a points defeat earlier in his career over 8 against a more experienced fighter but really was someone Watson should have come through against. ko'd in the 11th against Mccallum then defeated against Eubank twice. He was relatively young at 26 so had he not been injured so tragically he still had time to come good. To me it seems he was a fighter who was destined to always fail at the very top against the best. A bit like Ryan Rhodes.
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armyash
Some good names mentioned.
Don't want to sound harsh but just quickly checked out Watson's record before posting and he had a points defeat earlier in his career over 8 against a more experienced fighter but really was someone Watson should have come through against. ko'd in the 11th against Mccallum then defeated against Eubank twice. He was relatively young at 26 so had he not been injured so tragically he still had time to come good. To me it seems he was a fighter who was destined to always fail at the very top against the best. A bit like Ryan Rhodes.
Best way to judge Michael Watson (or anybody) is to watch their fights and their skills, rather than look at what is on paper. Not saying this in a condecending way btw.
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armyash
Some good names mentioned.
Don't want to sound harsh but just quickly checked out Watson's record before posting and he had a points defeat earlier in his career over 8 against a more experienced fighter but really was someone Watson should have come through against. ko'd in the 11th against Mccallum then defeated against Eubank twice. He was relatively young at 26 so had he not been injured so tragically he still had time to come good. To me it seems he was a fighter who was destined to always fail at the very top against the best. A bit like Ryan Rhodes.
That was his 8th pro fight, Gerald McClellan also lost twice early in his career. As did many other fighters and they still went on too win world titles.
No shame in losing to Mike McCallum who was a great fighter and a HOF, Michael Watson did beat Nigel Benn and deserved to beat Chris Eubank in there 1st meeting. And was a mile ahead on points in the rematch until Chris Eubank found a hail mary.
Michael Watson would of for 100 percent won a world title, he had the determination and the skills.
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Master
Herol Graham, one point unfairly deducted against McCallum cost him the draw, Julian Jackson corner about throw towel in before you know what, come out of retirement and knocking down Brewer (twice) in his home town before being stopped, cannot get more unlucky than that.
I thought Herol Graham legitmately lost to Mike McCallum, Sumbu Kalambay 1. But he for 100 percent should of got the nod in the rematch against Sumbu Kalambay. Herol Graham wasn't really defensive in the Sumbu Kalambay fights, he got hit very often.
The first fight with Kalambay was for the european title and number one slot, not the world title. That was without Ingle who sold his rights to the Irish promoter, and he said his head was not there, blew his shot though.
Against McCallum it was very close and he should have won that. The second time he fought Kalamaby was a robbery, think he knocked Kalamabay down at least once but in Italy he was not going to get the decision.
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pat cowdell , and herol graham spring to mind.
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What about Jim McDonnell ? he gave a great effort against Azumah Nelson.
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How about Alan Rudkin?
Kirkland Laing
Michael Watson
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roberto duran legend
Tommy Farr ?.
Amazing he went 15 rounds with a peak Joe Louis.
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I know he was ultra negative but Joe Bugner was in with the best of all time . and went the distance .
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didn't expect anyone to agree with what i said about Watson which is understandable. Of course as i said he was still young enough to win a title if he hadn't been injured.
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armyash
didn't expect anyone to agree with what i said about Watson which is understandable. Of course as i said he was still young enough to win a title if he hadn't been injured.
That would have been entertaining, he would be chasing Eubanks and Benn at super middle and maybe wining a title to get the return. He would not have been afraid to take the top Americans but could not see him beat Toney or Jones.
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Henry whartons a great shout, he was around in a really strong era of super middles, not many men went 12rounds with benn, eubanks and robin reed! Hard as nails!!
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BIG H
It's Bomber Graham imo.
Tony Sibson is one that hasn't been mentioned yet.
Billy Schwer was doing very well against Ruelas before the bruising.
Henry Wharton came close
Michael Watson
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Jody Lane
Henry Cooper!!!
naaaa
Jamie moore
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I'm going to stick my neck out and say Joe Bugner, i've been watching him fight recently and the guy was pretty good. Several heavyweights worse than him have won titles that's for sure.
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Mctaggert
I'm going to stick my neck out and say Joe Bugner, i've been watching him fight recently and the guy was pretty good. Several heavyweights worse than him have won titles that's for sure.
He beats Cooper which pissed people off that he had to leave the country and he did not seemingly really try enough.
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erics44
takaloo :)
may i finish your sentence - Takaloo was utter shite.
The End
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may i finish your sentence - Takaloo was utter shite.
He did great against the tough Irish fighter Eamonn Magee on a points verdict.
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Alex Stewart........he did well against Holyfield and George Foreman....had a mental breakdown against Tyson (Which was a shame)!!!.....could have been WBO champ if he ever fought someone not so good......MAYBE!!!!
Job Biscuit (Couldawouldshouldda)!!!!
eh eh!!!
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I was going to make a joke about Henry Akinwande but didn't he win a title?
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Mctaggert
I was going to make a joke about Henry Akinwande but didn't he win a title?
Yes with Herbie Hide, and Bent both British.
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Otley
Alex Stewart........he did well against Holyfield and George Foreman....had a mental breakdown against Tyson (Which was a shame)!!!.....could have been WBO champ if he ever fought someone not so good......MAYBE!!!!
Job Biscuit (Couldawouldshouldda)!!!!
eh eh!!!
was alex stewart british?
or was he lennox lewis type british?
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erics44
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Otley
Alex Stewart........he did well against Holyfield and George Foreman....had a mental breakdown against Tyson (Which was a shame)!!!.....could have been WBO champ if he ever fought someone not so good......MAYBE!!!!
Job Biscuit (Couldawouldshouldda)!!!!
eh eh!!!
was alex stewart british?
or was he lennox lewis type british?
Think he was born here, yes Lennox Lewis type.