If Mayweather beats Ortiz,Pacquiao (twice)and Martinez, where does he rank all time?

I would have to put Floyd Mayweather, Jr. as a top 5 all time fighter if he beats Ortiz, Pacquiao, Martinez, and lets say a random one or two more..hey look at the following criteria:

Competition.. unbelievable
Jump in weight classes..amazing (watch the chop chop or gatti fight)
Olympic games (like RJJ, should have a gold)
Dominance over his opponents ( Castillo and De La Hoya were close...and thats pushing it)

Somewhere in the top 5 without a doubt..

I'll put him at 126.

But if he also beats any of the Klitschkos, he'll be ranked higher .............. maybe 116.

Mayweather will never be ranked higher or lower than he is now. People that like him will, and for those that don't he could beat both klitchkos and they will be crying about how he ducked mike jones or some damn body.

3rd, after Senior and Roger!

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Originally Posted by KananKrus

3rd, after Senior and Roger!

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smoking something but it's not crack, Floyd Jr is the only Mayweather that will ever have the word GREAT attached to it whenever mentioned historically

I see Ortiz posing some problems, but if he comes through then topples Martinez i wont have a problem with PBF being mentioned in the same breath as Ali, SRL and SRR 20 years from now.

Activity has been a problem as he gets himself in all sorts of shit but cant deny that talent. He has to cram a couple more big names in then get out of the sport before father time unleashes his own barrage of punches that even Mayweather doesnt have an answer for.

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Originally Posted by Mar

Mayweather will never be ranked higher or lower than he is now. People that like him will, and for those that don't he could beat both klitchkos and they will be crying about how he ducked mike jones or some damn body.

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im from philly...he would kill mike jones. he would kill margarito....trying to think of someone that wouldnt be target practice...only one who has a chance is martinez.

[QUOTE=armyash;1006158]I see Ortiz posing some problems, but if he comes through then topples Martinez i wont have a problem with PBF being mentioned in the same breath as Ali, SRL and SRR 20 years from now.

Activity has been a problem as he gets himself in all sorts of shit but cant deny that talent. He has to cram a couple more big names in then get out of the sport before father time unleashes his own barrage of punches that even Mayweather doesnt have an answer for.[ <---this guy actually makes sense]

if you look at his record...he has faced some greats. when he was coming up he didnt duck anyone. now they say he is cherry picking small guys? when he was 130-140 he didnt duck anyone and destroyed them..(undefeated corrales @130 and 1st fight at 40 a southpaw chop chop. watch the old fights and listen to manny stewart...he will have problems with gatti or if he fights sharmba mitchell i would have it a toss up..hahaha.

this post is funny. gayweather is a total chickenshit. AS IF he would EVER fight Pacman!!! or MARTINEZ for that matter!!! EVERYONE knows lil floyd handpicks his fights. anyone he thinks is a threat is ignored, or excuses are made, like manny being tested for roids!
lil floyd wants to preserve his "undefeated" status. but i got news for u lil Floyd!
you got beat!!!!
in that first fight, CASTILLO beat that ass! no if's ands or buts. as usual , the networks "Boy" got a gift decision.

i really wish u gayweather fans would wake up.

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Originally Posted by #1FightFan

this post is funny. gayweather is a total chickenshit. AS IF he would EVER fight Pacman!!! or MARTINEZ for that matter!!! EVERYONE knows lil floyd handpicks his fights. anyone he thinks is a threat is ignored, or excuses are made, like manny being tested for roids!
lil floyd wants to preserve his "undefeated" status. but i got news for u lil Floyd!
you got beat!!!!
in that first fight, CASTILLO beat that ass! no if's ands or buts. as usual , the networks "Boy" got a gift decision.

i really wish u gayweather fans would wake up.

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Im with you on that outcome.

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Originally Posted by heavyhands

if you look at his record...he has faced some greats. when he was coming up he didnt duck anyone. now they say he is cherry picking small guys? when he was 130-140 he didnt duck anyone and destroyed them..(undefeated corrales @130 and 1st fight at 40 a southpaw chop chop. watch the old fights and listen to manny stewart...he will have problems with gatti or if he fights sharmba mitchell i would have it a toss up..hahaha.

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Are you saying then that when he went above 140 he ducked some of them?

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Originally Posted by heavyhands

if you look at his record...he has faced some greats. when he was coming up he didnt duck anyone. now they say he is cherry picking small guys? when he was 130-140 he didnt duck anyone and destroyed them..(undefeated corrales @130 and 1st fight at 40 a southpaw chop chop. watch the old fights and listen to manny stewart...he will have problems with gatti or if he fights sharmba mitchell i would have it a toss up..hahaha.

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Are you saying then that when he went above 140 he ducked some of them?

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Well there was a war just waiting at 140.

Floyd didnt fight anybody at 140 but that's not really his fault. His ultimate goal when he moved up was to face Kostya Tszyu but tsyzu foolishly chose to face hatton in england and got a raw deal.. ( it was a business decision )

Time line doesn't add up.. against Gatti, Cotto and hatton was there to scout Floyd but by the 4th round, Cotto's face was all pale and shit as if he's seen a ghost.. Homey went to scout, instead, he looked scared shitless watching gatti take a beating and changed his mind quick.. Floyd did call him out but then Cotto's camp claimed that he's still " GREEN " and declined the fight..

Floyd didnt duck anybody..

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

Floyd didnt fight anybody at 140 but that's not really his fault. His ultimate goal when he moved up was to face Kostya Tszyu but tsyzu foolishly chose to face hatton in england and got a raw deal.. ( it was a business decision )

Time line doesn't add up.. against Gatti, Cotto and hatton was there to scout Floyd but by the 4th round, Cotto's face was all pale and shit as if he's seen a ghost.. Homey went to scout, instead, he looked scared shitless watching gatti take a beating and changed his mind quick.. Floyd did call him out but then Cotto's camp claimed that he's still " GREEN " and declined the fight..

Floyd didnt duck anybody..

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I dont think it even reached a table conference did it? I know there was talk in each camp and on forums etc. I know from Kostyas that it was one of his all time dream fights but I thought Hatton was sealed and signed way after.
I cant remember kostya having a choice between Hatton and Floyd at that time, I thought Floyd had already skipped over 140 at that stage?

Timings a real bitch sometimes and at other times its a useful excuse and saves face.

In hindsight though, I think Floyd would have won.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

Floyd didnt fight anybody at 140 but that's not really his fault. His ultimate goal when he moved up was to face Kostya Tszyu but tsyzu foolishly chose to face hatton in england and got a raw deal.. ( it was a business decision )

Time line doesn't add up.. against Gatti, Cotto and hatton was there to scout Floyd but by the 4th round, Cotto's face was all pale and shit as if he's seen a ghost.. Homey went to scout, instead, he looked scared shitless watching gatti take a beating and changed his mind quick.. Floyd did call him out but then Cotto's camp claimed that he's still " GREEN " and declined the fight..

Floyd didnt duck anybody..

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I dont think it even reached a table conference did it? I know there was talk in each camp and on forums etc. I know from Kostyas that it was one of his all time dream fights but I thought Hatton was sealed and signed way after.
I cant remember kostya having a choice between Hatton and Floyd at that time, I thought Floyd had already skipped over 140 at that stage?

Timings a real bitch sometimes and at other times its a useful excuse and saves face.

In hindsight though, I think Floyd would have won.

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I thought that there were rumours of him being scheduled to fight Kostyas 'after' he beat Hatton. Whether that was true or not I dont know, but I was always under the impression that Floyd's sole reason for moving through the weights so fast was to fight ODLH as soon as he could?

fighting and winning against a badly faded De La Hoya dont mean shit. so pull yer tongue outta gayweathers butthole.