This is just a fantasy scenario. Let's play with the idea until they fight. What do you think will happen next if ............ ?
Any thoughts.
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This is just a fantasy scenario. Let's play with the idea until they fight. What do you think will happen next if ............ ?
Any thoughts.
Floydiots mass suicide. ;D
Rematch or Ortiz-Pac. One or the other
Hell freezes over immediately afterwards.
if it did happen ortiz v pac will happen next without a doubt, probably before the end of the year
actually floyd might go on to fight pac
pac would fight one of them anyway, that saying he won
or even maybe if he lost
This and other boxing forums will crash because it will be flooded with anti-Mayweather bashings.
I don't think Pacquiao-Ortiz will happen after this. Mayweather is smart enough to have put a clause in their contract that he has the first option of a rematch. If it's not in their contract, then he should fire his lawyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
I must be the only person it seems who doesn't thinks it's impossible to see a Ortiz victory. I'm not picking Ortiz, don't get me wrong but he could be the toughest fighter PBF has faced in a very long time. If he catches Mayweather the way Shane did he wont let him off the hook. Mosley didn't go in for the kill simply because he couldn't. Don't tell me that Mosley was better than the Ortiz who will be facing Mayweather, even with hindsight of course PBF should have toyed with that Mosley he is considered by many to be the greatest boxer on the planet and Mosley is an old fighter with a lot of mileage on the clock. I admit i thought it would be a tough fight also :rolleyes: But at least with Ortiz we know he can improve on each performance, he is coming in to his prime soon. If it wasn't for the Maidana loss and the draw with Peterson people would be talking about how Ortiz is a monster. But who knows what happened on those nights? I think he was struggling with the pressure being put on him and the way he was supposed to be the next big thing. No big deal everyone is affected in different ways, some people thrive on that some don't. Ortiz doesn't always come across as a gobshite who loves the sound of his own voice. He has done well to redeem himself lately. Ortiz is bigger, he's hungry, and he still feels the need to prove people wrong. Dangerous ingredients!
Mayweather has the skills but never underestimate a mans will to win, especially when his back is against the wall.
I think he is going to be in great shape and mentally prepared for the fight of his life.
Back to the question ;D If Mayweather loses he will probably fight Pac with no need for extra drugs tests.
Would love to see Ortiz win
Immediate rematch, what else. Floyd safely outboxes ortiz in a rematch to a decision..
If he wins i will be an ortiz fan.
Ortiz took the tests..he took the fight
He is proving to the world he has nothing to hide and is a clean athlete in this fight.
Very big IF !!!
HUGE IF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I'll sig bet that Floyd dominates Ortiz, meaning if it is a close fight, I lose even if Floyd himself wins. By dominate, I mean KO or win by at least 4 or 5 rounds.
Ortiz would have an open cheque book and can fight anyone he wants but more than likely it will be Pac Man.
If frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their asses when the hopped ;D
Though, should Unicorns replace cars as mass transit and Ortiz wins I would piss myself, literally. Out as much of surprise followed with continuous laughter. Loud obnoxious laughter.
Well if he wins, whoever is making excuses for Floyd should be banned immediately no ifs no buts, one measly excuse and poof.
The word Poof is a sound, but in this case can be taken each and every way as is the full intention of the proposed insinuation, all rights reserved.
Since a Pactard fired 1st shot on this thread I'll go there.. JMM has a better shot at beating PAC a 3rd time whoops... My bad. JMM has a better shot of beating PAC than Ortiz beating Mayweather..
Ortiz moves straight up & beats Martinez as well
But then, I don't think Pac will be interested in fighting Floyd. Since Floyd gave him a hard time with making the fight, Pac would not give Floyd an opportunity to fight him since there would be nothing to gain from that. This applies the other way.Quote:
Originally Posted by armyash
Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerBut then, I don't think Pac will be interested in fighting Floyd. Since Floyd gave him a hard time with making the fight, Pac would not give Floyd an opportunity to fight him since there would be nothing to gain from that. This applies the other way.Quote:
Originally Posted by armyash
Yep, that's actually a better way to look at it. ;)
If Ortiz wins there will pobably be an immediate rematch where Mayweather wins easy as he should have first time around. (as has already been said), but even then the Pac match up would have lost some of it's appeal.
If Ortiz wins, I think it would be wise for Floyds latest to go live with her mother for a while;).
So far Victor Ortiz and Shane Mosley have taken these random tests just fine, no excuses whatsoever:cool:.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
That's because Ortiz and Mosley don't have any leverage to dictate terms on Mayweather. They need the fight more than Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoSo far Victor Ortiz and Shane Mosley have taken these random tests just fine, no excuses whatsoever:cool:.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
But that should have been swept under the rug already. Manny had agreed to the drug test as per the terms demanded by Floyd.
correcto mondo!Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerThat's because Ortiz and Mosley don't have any leverage to dictate terms on Mayweather. They need the fight more than Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoSo far Victor Ortiz and Shane Mosley have taken these random tests just fine, no excuses whatsoever:cool:.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
But that should have been swept under the rug already. Manny had agreed to the drug test as per the terms demanded by Floyd.
Ortiz would also be Manny's lil' b*tch when it comes to negotiation. But ofcourse that could change a bit IF Victor beats Floyd.
I think these things will happen if Floyd's got beaten by Ortiz:
1. Roger will suspect Ortiz is on A-side meth made in the Philippines.
2. Floyd will look into the results of his implemented Olympic drug tests and will rule out that his Uncle is right.. There is a an A-side meth made in the Philippines -- which is undetectable..
3. This will require parties to talk about having a rematch.. thats good for GBP..
4. Im about to guess what will be the imposed drug test procedures on the rematch..
If my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle... :p
Rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerThat's because Ortiz and MosleyQuote:
Originally Posted by ChinoSo far Victor Ortiz and Shane Mosley have taken these randomQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
tests just fine, no excuses
whatsoever:cool:.
don't have any leverage to dictate
terms on Mayweather. They need
the fight more than Floyd.
But that should have been swept
under the rug already. Manny had
agreed to the drug test as per the
terms demanded by Floyd.
When al hayman or leonard ellerbe say hes agreed to the tests thats when the fight happens..no more rumours!
When the fight was announced I thought that Ortiz had a chance, a very good chance actually.
But then recently I decided Ademek would have a chance against Vitali.
So now I've realised that the best are a cut above the rest and although I think Ortiz will land some decent shots, I think he'll be showing Mayweather too much respect and by the end they'll be touching gloves every few minutes, meanwhile Mayweather lands all the good shots.
Oh and IF Ortiz beats Mayweather, he should retire because it doesn't get much better than that!
Realistically he'd probably fight Manny because Floyd would retire.
IMHO. The only way Ortiz this fight, is if he cuts Floyd's eyelid in early rounds and give him blurry vision.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
I'm wondering...maybe Ortiz had good preparation, Berto isn't the spitting image of Floyd but he's got similar defense, he's more aggressive, and might hit harder (but not sharper).
Ortiz doesn't jab, but being a southpaw that is GREAT vs Floyd. If Vic can dig to the body effectively and get Floyd to drop his hands more then he could pull off an upset.
That said, I expect Floyd by a wide UD or stoppage and if he gets caught its only because he's lazy not because he's lost a step.