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Hey the belt was a joke, especially seein as Morales was fighting a late replacement for the belt, but lets give it up for Erik !
We all know that 6th world title in a 5th weight class was long overdue since Erik got SCREWED against Diaz and Maidana.
That kid Cano was pretty tough last night, but boy was he busted up and bloody by the end.
Good fight and good for Morales.
Yeah hes a great old warrior who bought us some of the best fights in history if not the best fight in modern history and at my fav weight too. Full props.
Lets NOT celebrate a silly "world" title.
Morales is a great fighter. Fact. He doesn't need to beat an obscure kid, not even rated in the top 10, for a ridiculous alphabet title to get plaudits.
Not Morales fault fighters were tripping over themselves to avoid fighting him. Cano is a good, young fighter. But the great Morales wouldn't be denied
Here's the real question, Does Morales pay the sanctioning fees for the fight? He's going to retire now anyway. Or should he go ahead and fight Bradley now for a bigger payday? Since even if he loses he already achieved his goal anyway.
I think everything now is just icing on the cake for Morales. The monkey is off his back, and some of his critics should go away. He's not a has been yet. I think anything now is gravy, wouldn't be surprised to see him take the biggest fight possible. Aka Amir Khan.
Morales only won titles in 4 weight classes, he's the first Mexican fighter to ever win a title in more than 3 weight classes that's why it was a big deal to him, he not only has now outdone Barrera, but Marquez, and the great Chavez as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
he won titles at super bantamweight, featherweight, super featherweight, and now jr welterweight
I enjoyed that fight, so much blood! Was worried early on, but the old man targeted the cuts and worked it out. He's slower, but just as smart.
The guys a living legend and rely deserved this!if he retires or takes 1 last pay day gd luck to him.it would class if he could roll back the years and beat khan.can't c it personally but u never know
A big congrats to Morales and I would still like to see him fight Marquez, regardless of the outcome with Pacman at 140.
the funny thing is the guy who personified what boxing should be was Morales, i say yank both Mayweather, Ortiz, and Cortez' paycheck and give it to both Morales and the young kid Cano, both of them did a hell of a lot more to deserve it than anyone in the main event did
Ah okay. Thank You for clarifying that good sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesMorales only won titles in 4 weight classes, he's the first Mexican fighter to ever win a title in more than 3 weight classes that's why it was a big deal to him, he not only has now outdone Barrera, but Marquez, and the great Chavez as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
he won titles at super bantamweight, featherweight, super featherweight, and now jr welterweight
Think didn't look as strong this weekend, might be fading a bit now. Don't think he would beat maidana if they fought again, well done to him for winning though.
i don't see why not, he still took the punches well, and he was in there with a younger guy (than Maidana), and a guy with better speed and technical ability than Maidana, i'm not saying that Morales would without a doubt win a rematch but IMO he'd give Maidana just as much hell as he did the first time aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
what you really is 'fucking petty know all' right?:pQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkAh okay. Thank You for clarifying that good sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesMorales only won titles in 4 weight classes, he's the first Mexican fighter to ever win a title in more than 3 weight classes that's why it was a big deal to him, he not only has now outdone Barrera, but Marquez, and the great Chavez as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
he won titles at super bantamweight, featherweight, super featherweight, and now jr welterweight
Morales shouldn't have to wait. He should be allowed into the HOF ASAP
damn straight, should have just been inducted in Saturday night in the ring, IMO not only did he make history, he also jumped ahead of Barrera in terms of greatness, not downplaying Marco's accomplishments at all but lets face it both of them are linked foreverQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Eric Morales does not need a strap to show his greatness, it is who he fights and beats that makes him the legend that he is. He has demonstrated that he is more than capable of taking on the best 140lb in the world. Bring on Bradley or Khan then he really is the best at that weight.
He has little chance against either guy in my opinion, but if he had to fight one, then Bradley would be the better choice as at least he would mix it up with Morales, not play keep away like Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Because he beat Cano??? This makes no sense. I hope you're not actually crediting this joke title for anything. It's Tim Bradley's belt and even if it wasn't there's absolutely no reason this fight should have been for it anyway. All he did is beat Cano, whom no one rated. Doesn't help or hurt his legacy one bit, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdamn straight, should have just been inducted in Saturday night in the ring, IMO not only did he make history, he also jumped ahead of Barrera in terms of greatness, not downplaying Marco's accomplishments at all but lets face it both of them are linked foreverQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
it's not his fault that Matthyse pulled out of the fight due to illness, let's just keep that in mind, Morales at 35 yrs of age, after all of the battles he's been in, was still willing to go through having to face the hard punching Argentinian, for that alone he deserves credit and it only goes on to show you what a real champion does, unlike the two divas that are ranked 1 & 2 on the p4p listsQuote:
Originally Posted by shzaBecause he beat Cano??? This makes no sense. I hope you're not actually crediting this joke title for anything. It's Tim Bradley's belt and even if it wasn't there's absolutely no reason this fight should have been for it anyway. All he did is beat Cano, whom no one rated. Doesn't help or hurt his legacy one bit, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdamn straight, should have just been inducted in Saturday night in the ring, IMO not only did he make history, he also jumped ahead of Barrera in terms of greatness, not downplaying Marco's accomplishments at all but lets face it both of them are linked foreverQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
i agree, i love Morales but both guys are just too strong for him, i'd prefer that he fight Bradley seeing how he's not as big, fast, or punches as hard as Khan, but i still doubt that Erik would be able to beat him, but he should still get praised for even climbing into the ring to fight either guy at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkHe has little chance against either guy in my opinion, but if he had to fight one, then Bradley would be the better choice as at least he would mix it up with Morales, not play keep away like Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
1. I agree it's not his fault that Matthyse pulled out. But so what? That doesn't make beating Cano any more of an achievement.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesit's not his fault that Matthyse pulled out of the fight due to illness, let's just keep that in mind, Morales at 35 yrs of age, after all of the battles he's been in, was still willing to go through having to face the hard punching Argentinian, for that alone he deserves credit and it only goes on to show you what a real champion does, unlike the two divas that are ranked 1 & 2 on the p4p listsQuote:
Originally Posted by shzaBecause he beat Cano??? This makes no sense. I hope you're not actually crediting this joke title for anything. It's Tim Bradley's belt and even if it wasn't there's absolutely no reason this fight should have been for it anyway. All he did is beat Cano, whom no one rated. Doesn't help or hurt his legacy one bit, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdamn straight, should have just been inducted in Saturday night in the ring, IMO not only did he make history, he also jumped ahead of Barrera in terms of greatness, not downplaying Marco's accomplishments at all but lets face it both of them are linked foreverQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
2. Sorry, but just being *willing* to fight a guy who's maybe the 5th best guy in the division (Matthyse) doesn't bump Morales's legacy. I'd pick Matthyse to win that fight anyway.
3. A fight against Matthyse had no more legitimacy as a title fight than this one. Again, it was Tim Bradley's title and he never lost it in the ring.
I get that you love Morales. The guy has definitely achieved a lot. All I'm saying is that beating a no-namer like Cano doesn't make his legacy any better or worse than it was. I don't get how that's even an arguable point.
Agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by shza1. I agree it's not his fault that Matthyse pulled out. But so what? That doesn't make beating Cano any more of an achievement.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesit's not his fault that Matthyse pulled out of the fight due to illness, let's just keep that in mind, Morales at 35 yrs of age, after all of the battles he's been in, was still willing to go through having to face the hard punching Argentinian, for that alone he deserves credit and it only goes on to show you what a real champion does, unlike the two divas that are ranked 1 & 2 on the p4p listsQuote:
Originally Posted by shzaBecause he beat Cano??? This makes no sense. I hope you're not actually crediting this joke title for anything. It's Tim Bradley's belt and even if it wasn't there's absolutely no reason this fight should have been for it anyway. All he did is beat Cano, whom no one rated. Doesn't help or hurt his legacy one bit, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdamn straight, should have just been inducted in Saturday night in the ring, IMO not only did he make history, he also jumped ahead of Barrera in terms of greatness, not downplaying Marco's accomplishments at all but lets face it both of them are linked foreverQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
2. Sorry, but just being *willing* to fight a guy who's maybe the 5th best guy in the division (Matthyse) doesn't bump Morales's legacy. I'd pick Matthyse to win that fight anyway.
3. A fight against Matthyse had no more legitimacy as a title fight than this one. Again, it was Tim Bradley's title and he never lost it in the ring.
I get that you love Morales. The guy has definitely achieved a lot. All I'm saying is that beating a no-namer like Cano doesn't make his legacy any better or worse than it was. I don't get how that's even an arguable point.