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The Mayweather Merchant Spat
It seems that this is one of the most controversial moments in boxing this year, and has a lot of people talking.
Also, many people seem to be defending Floyd for standing up to Merchant because he has criticised him for years.
Anyway, for me, although hilarious to watch, it was also alarming that so many people seem to think nothing of disrespecting and threatening elder's like that.
So I was wondering, is that the world we live in now? Where you can get in the face of an 80 year old man and tell him he ain't shit and act in such a hostile way?
I was shocked personally. If that had happened in a work setting it's likely the younger guy would be arrested for threatening an old man, and yet it seems on here many people thought it was fair game.
Are today's youth so morally bankrupt as this?
I think Floyd should be fined and banned for at least six months imo. Arreola got in trouble for using the F word, Floyd should be in court for what he did imo.
He sets such a bad example that if I was a boxing commissioner I'd be fighting to get him banned for a year.
What do others think?
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I don't condone at all i think it was mortifiying. he didn't threaten merchant in an aggressive way since Floyd was trying to exit the interview I think it was the disgusting verbal tirade he chose. That was the only dirty thing Floyd did Saturday night.
I refuse to feel sorry for Larry Merchant. The guy is 80 sure, but he is antagonistic and puts himself out there and is the farthest thing from a professional interviewer.
If Floyd replaced his foul language and just said his mind than I have no problem with it, but Larry shouldn't been cussed out like that on TV. No one should
I think Floyd told Larry what most fighters, fans and even his own
colleagues been wanting to say.
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Look at my sig for LOLs. :)
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JT Rock
I don't condone at all i think it was mortifiying. he didn't threaten merchant in an aggressive way since Floyd was trying to exit the interview I think it was the disgusting verbal tirade he chose. That was the only dirty thing Floyd did Saturday night.
I refuse to feel sorry for Larry Merchant. The guy is 80 sure, but he is antagonistic and puts himself out there and is the farthest thing from a professional interviewer.
If Floyd replaced his foul language and just said his mind than I have no problem with it, but Larry shouldn't been cussed out like that on TV. No one should
I think Floyd told Larry what most fighters, fans and even his own
colleagues been wanting to say.
I would argue that having the greatest boxer on the planet right up in your face telling you you ain't shit is aggressive and intimidating for anyone, especially an 80 year old man. You can see the way Larry's jaw starts to go that it was a stressful situation for him. Not being dramatic but what if the exchange had given him a heart attack? it's not exactly implausible and happens often amongst old people.
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
It seems that this is one of the most controversial moments in boxing this year, and has a lot of people talking.
Also, many people seem to be defending Floyd for standing up to Merchant because he has criticised him for years.
Anyway, for me, although hilarious
to watch, it was also alarming that so many people seem to think nothing of disrespecting and threatening elder's like that.
So I was wondering, is that the world we live in now? Where you can get in the face of an 80 year old
man and tell him he ain't shit and act in such a hostile way?
I was shocked personally. If that had happened in a work setting it's likely the younger guy would be arrested for threatening an old man, and yet it seems on here many people
thought it was fair game.
Are today's youth so morally bankrupt as this?
I think Floyd should be fined and banned for at least six months imo. Arreola got in trouble for using the F word, Floyd should be in court for
what he did imo.
He sets such a bad example that if I was a boxing commissioner I'd be fighting to get him banned for a year.
What do others think?
Although not nice to watch and Floyd was aggressive - I don't think he deserves a ban purely because for years the questions and persona of Merchant have been dated and predictable......(yes my personal opinion) Perhaps a fine...but doubt that would hurt him. Overal i say let's just move on....
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The issue of Merhcant being irritating shouldn't even come into it though. That's like arguing Chris Brown had some justification for hitting Rihanna because she was annoying as hell.
There are lines that just should not be crossed, and what Floyd said, on American's biggest family network was disgusting imo. I just can't imagine it happening over here in the UK at all.
If a British fighter had started mouthing off like that to Henry Cooper, or maybe a Formula One driver to Murray Walker he would be completely and utterly ostracized.
I'm just amazed that people seem to be accepting of it.
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
So I was wondering, is that the world we live in now? Where you can get in the face of an 80 year old man and tell him he ain't shit and act in such a hostile way?
I was shocked personally. If that had happened in a work setting it's likely the younger guy would be arrested for threatening an old man, and yet it seems on here many people thought it was fair game.
Are today's youth so morally bankrupt as this?
Funny you write that someone else must have thought the same this came up.. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RDYAidYn3k&feature=related
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
I was shocked personally. If that had happened in a work setting it's likely the younger guy would be arrested for threatening an old man, and yet it seems on here many people thought it was fair game. Floyd should be in court for what he did imo.
When did Floyd threaten him? He said he wasn't shit and that he should be fired but those are not threats. The only threat made was by Merchant to Floyd and even this was not really a threat since it was qualified by only being valid 50 years ago.
Fair enough, it was an unedifying spectacle and Floyd does not come out of it with any credit at all, but trying to suggest that this is in any way a legal matter is a massive over-reaction and just shows your hatred for the man to be clouding your own judgement.
Sorry, but you asked for opinions...
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Look mate, respect isnt just given but it is earnt. I dont like Larry Merchant, ive heard him give Kostya Tszyu a hard time who is one of the nicest blokes around. He goes out of his way to try and piss fighters off. Fair enough ask the hard questions but dont make the whole interview a negative tirade. If an 80 yr old man i barely know just starts putting shit on me about something he has never done or wasnt any good at, im sure as hell not gonna stand there and take it. 80 yrs old, 70 yrs old, 40, 30, 20, 16...etc, what ever age, if you want to have a go at somebody expect for them to act accordingly. If my grandfather had a go at me of course im going to bite my tongue, hes my grandfather, he has earnt my respect because hes been one hell of a good bloke.
Being old doesnt entitle you to respect, being old and a good person does. Larry is a cunt, the end.
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Snakey
Look mate, respect isnt just given but it is earnt. I dont like Larry Merchant, ive heard him give Kostya Tszyu a hard time who is one of the nicest blokes around. He goes out of his way to try and piss fighters off. Fair enough ask the hard questions but dont make the whole interview a negative tirade. If an 80 yr old man i barely know just starts putting shit on me about something he has never done or wasnt any good at, im sure as hell not gonna stand there and take it. 80 yrs old, 70 yrs old, 40, 30, 20, 16...etc, what ever age, if you want to have a go at somebody expect for them to act accordingly. If my grandfather had a go at me of course im going to bite my tongue, hes my grandfather, he has earnt my respect because hes been one hell of a good bloke.
Being old doesnt entitle you to respect, being old and a good person does. Larry is a cunt, the end.
Yeah this is the alarming thing I guess. I mean I'm almost 40 and in my day being old did entitle to you respect.
People would no sooner go off on an old person than they would hit a woman.
I just didn't realise society had fallen that far.
I remember when celebrity Big brother was on a few years ago and Sly Stallones mum as on it. Some of the other housemates hated her and I can remember Lisa I'anson openly telling her she thought she was a witch.
I was shocked and appalled, I mean how could you say that to an old woman, let alone the mother of a Hollywood legend. And all because she had to make her a cup of tea. :confused:
People today just have no respect for their elders I guess.
The idea that respect is earnt and that it's justifiable to tell an elderly tv institution he's shit live on air is just amazing to me, but it seems it's a pervalent view amongst the young these days.
Sad times imo.
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PaulG
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Bilbo
I was shocked personally. If that had happened in a work setting it's likely the younger guy would be arrested for threatening an old man, and yet it seems on here many people thought it was fair game. Floyd should be in court for what he did imo.
When did Floyd threaten him? He said he wasn't shit and that he should be fired but those are not threats. The only threat made was by Merchant to Floyd and even this was not really a threat since it was qualified by only being valid 50 years ago.
Fair enough, it was an unedifying spectacle and Floyd does not come out of it with any credit at all, but trying to suggest that this is in any way a legal matter is a massive over-reaction and just shows your hatred for the man to be clouding your own judgement.
Sorry, but you asked for opinions...
As I said above, having the world's greatest boxer in your face telling you you ain't shit is threatening for most people, let alone an elderly man.
If you saw a young, ripped guy on a bus facing up to an old man and telling him he wasn't shit you wouldnt' see that as threatening?
He should be heavily fined by both the boxing commission and HBO imo.
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
PaulG
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
I was shocked personally. If that had happened in a work setting it's likely the younger guy would be arrested for threatening an old man, and yet it seems on here many people thought it was fair game. Floyd should be in court for what he did imo.
When did Floyd threaten him? He said he wasn't shit and that he should be fired but those are not threats. The only threat made was by Merchant to Floyd and even this was not really a threat since it was qualified by only being valid 50 years ago.
Fair enough, it was an unedifying spectacle and Floyd does not come out of it with any credit at all, but trying to suggest that this is in any way a legal matter is a massive over-reaction and just shows your hatred for the man to be clouding your own judgement.
Sorry, but you asked for opinions...
As I said above, having the world's greatest boxer in your face telling you you ain't shit is threatening for most people, let alone an elderly man.
If you saw a young, ripped guy on a bus facing up to an old man and telling him he wasn't shit you wouldnt' see that as threatening?
He should be heavily fined by both the boxing commission and HBO imo.
i bet he regrets it now
he has probably looked himself in the mirror many times since and shook his head
a fine wouldnt add to the embarrassment
i cant be bothered watching it again but i dont remember the questioning being that probing, he just seemed to lose it
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
Look mate, respect isnt just given but it is earnt. I dont like Larry Merchant, ive heard him give Kostya Tszyu a hard time who is one of the nicest blokes around. He goes out of his way to try and piss fighters off. Fair enough ask the hard questions but dont make the whole interview a negative tirade. If an 80 yr old man i barely know just starts putting shit on me about something he has never done or wasnt any good at, im sure as hell not gonna stand there and take it. 80 yrs old, 70 yrs old, 40, 30, 20, 16...etc, what ever age, if you want to have a go at somebody expect for them to act accordingly. If my grandfather had a go at me of course im going to bite my tongue, hes my grandfather, he has earnt my respect because hes been one hell of a good bloke.
Being old doesnt entitle you to respect, being old and a good person does. Larry is a cunt, the end.
Yeah this is the alarming thing I guess. I mean I'm almost 40 and in my day being old did entitle to you respect.
People would no sooner go off on an old person than they would hit a woman.
I just didn't realise society had fallen that far.
I remember when celebrity Big brother was on a few years ago and Sly Stallones mum as on it. Some of the other housemates hated her and I can remember Lisa I'anson openly telling her she thought she was a witch.
I was shocked and appalled, I mean how could you say that to an old woman, let alone the mother of a Hollywood legend. And all because she had to make her a cup of tea. :confused:
People today just have no respect for their elders I guess.
The idea that respect is earnt and that it's justifiable to tell an elderly tv institution he's shit live on air is just amazing to me, but it seems it's a pervalent view amongst the young these days.
Sad times imo.
Well having worked in an industry where I primarily the youngest in the company I have learnt that respect is earnt and not just given. If I was to back down to every old guy who gave me shit then I would have to leave my job. I do not get how being old should entitle you to respect to everyone who is younger. Yes you have lived to an old age, but what if this guy was an absolute wanker his whole life, what if he has treated people like shit his whole life....coz ive met old guys like this, does this mean I just bow down and take his shit coz the guy is old? I dont think so. Maybe if we are talking about some teenager, I get your point. But once your an adult I think its up to the person. I will admit right now that I have had some heated arguments with people in there 60's and 70's...did I start it? No but the fact they were being rude meant I could stick up for myself.
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
Look mate, respect isnt just given but it is earnt. I dont like Larry Merchant, ive heard him give Kostya Tszyu a hard time who is one of the nicest blokes around. He goes out of his way to try and piss fighters off. Fair enough ask the hard questions but dont make the whole interview a negative tirade. If an 80 yr old man i barely know just starts putting shit on me about something he has never done or wasnt any good at, im sure as hell not gonna stand there and take it. 80 yrs old, 70 yrs old, 40, 30, 20, 16...etc, what ever age, if you want to have a go at somebody expect for them to act accordingly. If my grandfather had a go at me of course im going to bite my tongue, hes my grandfather, he has earnt my respect because hes been one hell of a good bloke.
Being old doesnt entitle you to respect, being old and a good person does. Larry is a cunt, the end.
Yeah this is the alarming thing I guess. I mean I'm almost 40 and in my day being old did entitle to you respect.
People would no sooner go off on an old person than they would hit a woman.
I just didn't realise society had fallen that far.
I remember when celebrity Big brother was on a few years ago and Sly Stallones mum as on it. Some of the other housemates hated her and I can remember Lisa I'anson openly telling her she thought she was a witch.
I was shocked and appalled, I mean how could you say that to an old woman, let alone the mother of a Hollywood legend. And all because she had to make her a cup of tea. :confused:
People today just have no respect for their elders I guess.
The idea that respect is earnt and that it's justifiable to tell an elderly tv institution he's shit live on air is just amazing to me, but it seems it's a pervalent view amongst the young these days.
Sad times imo.
Well having worked in an industry where I primarily the youngest in the company I have learnt that respect is earnt and not just given.
If I was to back down to every old guy who gave me shit then I would have to leave my job. I do not get how being old should entitle you to respect to everyone who is younger. Yes you have lived to an old age, but what if this guy was an absolute wanker his whole life, what if he has treated people like shit his whole life....coz ive met old guys like this, does this mean I just bow down and take his shit coz the guy is old? I dont think so. Maybe if we are talking about some teenager, I get your point. But once your an adult I think its up to the person. I will admit right now that I have had some heated arguments with people in there 60's and 70's...did I start it? No but the fact they were being rude meant I could stick up for myself.
How does backing down equal not telling someone they ain't shit?
Floyd looked like an idiot who couldn't defend himself intelligently and so had to resort back to his hood mentality.
Merchant won that exchange hands down, he totally tooled Floyd who looked like a complete moron.
Talking to an old person like that isn't standing up to them, it's the opposite. Like beating your children or your wife, it's the sign of a weak person who cannot who cannot behave in a civilised way.
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As I said above, having the world's greatest boxer in your face telling you you ain't shit is threatening for most people, let alone an elderly man.
If you saw a young, ripped guy on a bus facing up to an old man and telling him he wasn't shit you wouldnt' see that as threatening?
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The difference is that the old man on the bus would be on his own and would be worried not b the shouting but by the potential violence that could follow. Merchant in the ring surrounded by people he knows and live on television knows that Floyd is not going to touch him. Indeed, he clearly feels no fear for his own physical safety as he is trappy enough to threaten to kick Floyd's ass - hardly the actions of a threatened and terrified old man.
The only actual threat that was made during that exchange was by Merchant and you should remember age is not an excuse for bad behaviour and people who are old are not automatically nice. My wife's grandmother was a horrible person her whole life and only got nastier the older she got. Behaviour and knowledge earns respect not just staying alive.
That said, Floyd did himself no favours with the tirade.
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Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Snakey
Look mate, respect isnt just given but it is earnt. I dont like Larry Merchant, ive heard him give Kostya Tszyu a hard time who is one of the nicest blokes around. He goes out of his way to try and piss fighters off. Fair enough ask the hard questions but dont make the whole interview a negative tirade. If an 80 yr old man i barely know just starts putting shit on me about something he has never done or wasnt any good at, im sure as hell not gonna stand there and take it. 80 yrs old, 70 yrs old, 40, 30, 20, 16...etc, what ever age, if you want to have a go at somebody expect for them to act accordingly. If my grandfather had a go at me of course im going to bite my tongue, hes my grandfather, he has earnt my respect because hes been one hell of a good bloke.
Being old doesnt entitle you to respect, being old and a good person does. Larry is a cunt, the end.
Yeah this is the alarming thing I guess. I mean I'm almost 40 and in my day being old did entitle to you respect.
People would no sooner go off on an old person than they would hit a woman.
I just didn't realise society had fallen that far.
I remember when celebrity Big brother was on a few years ago and Sly Stallones mum as on it. Some of the other housemates hated her and I can remember Lisa I'anson openly telling her she thought she was a witch.
I was shocked and appalled, I mean how could you say that to an old woman, let alone the mother of a Hollywood legend. And all because she had to make her a cup of tea. :confused:
People today just have no respect for their elders I guess.
The idea that respect is earnt and that it's justifiable to tell an elderly tv institution he's shit live on air is just amazing to me, but it seems it's a pervalent view amongst the young these days.
Sad times imo.
Well having worked in an industry where I primarily the youngest in the company I have learnt that respect is earnt and not just given.
If I was to back down to every old guy who gave me shit then I would have to leave my job. I do not get how being old should entitle you to respect to everyone who is younger. Yes you have lived to an old age, but what if this guy was an absolute wanker his whole life, what if he has treated people like shit his whole life....coz ive met old guys like this, does this mean I just bow down and take his shit coz the guy is old? I dont think so. Maybe if we are talking about some teenager, I get your point. But once your an adult I think its up to the person. I will admit right now that I have had some heated arguments with people in there 60's and 70's...did I start it? No but the fact they were being rude meant I could stick up for myself.
How does backing down equal not telling someone they ain't shit?
Floyd looked like an idiot who couldn't defend himself intelligently and so had to resort back to his hood mentality.
Merchant won that exchange hands down, he totally tooled Floyd who looked like a complete moron.
Talking to an old person like that isn't standing up to them, it's the opposite. Like beating your children or your wife, it's the sign of a weak person who cannot who cannot behave in a civilised way.
I put it down to karma mate. Larry has made a lot of boxers look like fools on purpose whether they deserved it or not. He got yelled at coz he pissed someone off, go figure.
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Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
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miles
Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
its also merchants job to get a good interview
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erics44
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miles
Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
its also merchants job to get a good interview
He tries and on the whole is successful. He cuts to the chase and wants fighters to answer rather than evade and Floyd traditionally evades.
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miles
Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
I would like to once again point out the difference between Truth and Opinion.
I am assuming that Larry's views match yours thus your confusing of the two. :p
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ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
miles
Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
I would like to once again point out the difference between Truth and Opinion.
I am assuming that Larry's views match yours thus your confusing of the two. :p
They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade. It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
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Mayweather don't respect anyone but himself. Pretty clear. He's an asshole with huge skills. No its not to hypa a fight or sell tickets :p he really is that big of a childish prick. Now sign his check.
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miles
They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade. It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
I genuinely have no idea what your post means. Could you repeat it again in English please?
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Seems like it was dawning on Floyd how lamely he ended the fight and he lacked the brains to deal with the embarassement with anything other than a poorly aimed outburst.
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Floyd felt disrespected! So he was disrespectful back. Larry ain't shit! & Floyd told him so...
Larry ain't Floyd's boss, just another man & if your being disrespectful you better be prepared to get it back.
Age doesn't mean shit, you can't demand respect, you have to earn it & Larry doesn't have Floyds respect.
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miles
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ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
miles
Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
I would like to once again point out the difference between Truth and Opinion.
I am assuming that Larry's views match yours thus your confusing of the two. :p
They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade.
It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
Well what do you call those who only seem to focus on what Floyd did. It's not like this event happened in a vacuum. There is cause and effect. To me it doesn't make sense to look at one thing without looking at the other.
My personal opinion is that the whole thing shouldn't have happened, and I honestly have a hard time being mad at Mayweather all things considered. On one hand, it wasn't the best choice to make, but on the other hand, I suppose he was pretty pissed off. And as human beings, I think we can all relate to having done things in the heat of the moment that we would not have done with a cooler head.
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He didn't have to be respectful. You are confusing being overly aggressive with veing disrespectful.
Could he not have stood up for himself without trying to thug a senior citizen? Obviously he realised he lacked the brains to answer what was being asked and come out of it on top.
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They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade. It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
I genuinely have no idea what your post means. Could you repeat it again in English please?
Basically that me and Larry are right and I think this captures the majority of views. Larry was right in calling out FLoyd, otherwise a controversial moment would have been given no coverage.
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Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
I would like to once again point out the difference between Truth and Opinion.
I am assuming that Larry's views match yours thus your confusing of the two. :p
They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade.
It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
Well what do you call those who only seem to focus on what Floyd did. It's not like this event happened in a vacuum. There is cause and effect. To me it doesn't make sense to look at one thing without looking at the other.
My personal opinion is that the whole thing shouldn't have happened, and I honestly have a hard time being mad at Mayweather all things considered. On one hand, it wasn't the best choice to make, but on the other hand,
I suppose he was pretty pissed off. And as human beings, I think we can all relate to having done things in the heat of the moment that we would not have done with a cooler head.
That was nothing to do with anger. Floyd is always a dick. There are literally hundreds of examples.
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Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
its also merchants job to get a good interview
He tries and on the whole is successful. He cuts to the chase and wants fighters to answer rather than evade and Floyd traditionally evades.
yeah he does but he would play on the truth to get a better interview
whether he thought mayweather was right or wrong he would focus on the controversy of it to try and get the emotions running to get a more entertaining interview (and it worked)
so i dunno whether you could say he speaks the truth
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Floyd wasn't aggressive, just angry! If he was aggressive he would have knocked the old fart the fuck out! Did he? No, he just told Larry what he thought of him.
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Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
I would like to once again point out the difference between Truth and Opinion.
I am assuming that Larry's views match yours thus your confusing of the two. :p
They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade.
It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
Well what do you call those who only seem to focus on what Floyd did. It's not like this event happened in a vacuum. There is cause and effect. To me it doesn't make sense to look at one thing without looking at the other.
My personal opinion is that the whole thing shouldn't have happened, and I honestly have a hard time being mad at Mayweather all things considered. On one hand, it wasn't the best choice to make, but on the other hand,
I suppose he was pretty pissed off. And as human beings, I think we can all relate to having done things in the heat of the moment that we would not have done with a cooler head.
That was nothing to do with anger. Floyd is always a dick. There are literally hundreds of examples.
The two are not mutually exclusive you know. You can be both angry and a dick at the same time ;D
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[QUOTE=miles;1010789][QUOTE=PaulG;1010780]
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They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade. It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
I genuinely have no idea what your post means. Could you repeat it again in English please?
Basically that me and Larry are right and I think this captures the majority of views. Larry was right in calling out FLoyd, otherwise a controversial moment would have been given no coverage.
Thanks Miles - I agree that Floyd was out of order in his response and even if angry should have refrained from profanity. Merchant should have kept his mouth shut though as he made himself look a right idiot by threatening to kick floyd's ass 50 years ago. He only did that because he knew that his age protected him from any physical consequences of his actions.
The post here that I really disagree with is Bilbo's idiotic claim that Floyd should be banned from boxing and prosecuted in court for threatening behaviour. Ironically, by acting so disproportionately because of his anger he is acting exactly like Floyd did, which makes me laugh as I can guess how much he'll love being told that his behaviour is identical to that of a man he holds in such high esteem.
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They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade. It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
I genuinely have no idea what your post means. Could you repeat it again in English please?
Basically that me and Larry are right and I think this captures the majority of views. Larry was right in calling out FLoyd, otherwise a controversial moment would have been given no coverage.
Thanks Miles - I agree that Floyd was out of order in his response and even if angry should have refrained from profanity. Merchant should have kept his mouth shut though as he made himself look a right idiot by threatening to kick floyd's ass 50 years ago. He only did that because he knew that his age protected him from any physical consequences of his actions.
The post here that I really disagree with is Bilbo's idiotic claim that Floyd should be banned from boxing and prosecuted in court for threatening behaviour. Ironically, by acting so disproportionately because of his anger he is acting exactly like Floyd did, which makes me laugh as I can guess how much he'll love being told that his behaviour is identical to that of a man he holds in such high esteem.
Chris Arreola got banned from boxing for six months for this. You tell who me acted worse?
Floyd is a role model for millions of youngsters, especially black youth's. He should be made an example of to show that kind of behaviour is not acceptable for anybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTPUdzCMyVc&feature=results_main&playnext= 1&list=PLF084D0D4F70E1E34
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I think the whole thing was staged, with that guy nodding at Floyd and suddenly Floyd going into that tirade.
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Merchant doesn't have it in for Floyd as such, but just speaks the truth. If he asks Floyd why he was boring it was because he was boring. If he asks why he is ducking Pac it is because he is ducking Pac. Merchant is the truth. Yes, he can be cantankerous, but he is articulate and a blessing to this sport. Boxing will be so much poorer without Larry Merchant and I will miss him far more than I ever miss an inarticulate, question avoiding, fight spoiler like Floyd Mayweather.
Floyd was bang out of order this weekend and Merchant had barely challenged him on anything. And that's not even talking about the foul sucker punch. Floyd needs to get a grip. I felt really sorry for Merchant and almost whooped for joy when he handled it so well and gave Floyd the scolding he deserved. Who else at 80 could have comeback and said that to Floyd? What a legend!
I love Merchant and he is one of my elder icons like Chomsky. I want them to be immortal like the Queen, though I actually want her to die.
I would like to once again point out the difference between Truth and Opinion.
I am assuming that Larry's views match yours thus your confusing of the two. :p
They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade.
It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
Well what do you call those who only seem to focus on what Floyd did. It's not like this event happened in a vacuum. There is cause and effect. To me it doesn't make sense to look at one thing without looking at the other.
My personal opinion is that the whole thing shouldn't have happened, and I honestly have a hard time being mad at Mayweather all things considered. On one hand, it wasn't the best choice to make, but on the other hand,
I suppose he was pretty pissed off. And as human beings, I think we can all relate to having done things in the heat of the moment that we would not have done with a cooler head.
That was nothing to do with anger. Floyd is always a dick. There are literally hundreds of examples.
Have you ever met him?
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Larry Merchant was doing his job. Mayweather didn't like the questions being asked so he got in his face shouting curses. Its the kind of thing mindless thugs do which sum's up Floyd. He's a prick.
His in your face posture and cursing was threatening. What sort of message does this give out?
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They are and so me and Larry are part of the zeitgeist in modern boxing. The boos were from the arena and the boards and the flipflopping between huggers and none huggers. To a degree we respresent the Larry is cool brigade. It's only Flomos that really see no issue with what Floyd did.
I genuinely have no idea what your post means. Could you repeat it again in English please?
Basically that me and Larry are right and I think this captures the majority of views. Larry was right in calling out FLoyd, otherwise a controversial moment would have been given no coverage.
Thanks Miles - I agree that Floyd was out of order in his response and even if angry should have refrained from profanity. Merchant should have kept his mouth shut though as he made himself look a right idiot by threatening to kick floyd's ass 50 years ago. He only did that because he knew that his age protected him from any physical consequences of his actions.
The post here that I really disagree with is Bilbo's idiotic claim that Floyd should be banned from boxing and prosecuted in court for threatening behaviour. Ironically, by acting so disproportionately because of his anger he is acting exactly like Floyd did, which makes me laugh as I can guess how much he'll love being told that his behaviour is identical to that of a man he holds in such high esteem.
Chris Arreola got banned from boxing for six months for this. You tell who me acted worse?
Floyd is a role model for millions of youngsters, especially black youth's. He should be made an example of to show that kind of behaviour is not acceptable for anybody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTPUdzCMyVc&feature=results_main&playnext= 1&list=PLF084D0D4F70E1E34
But that wasn't what you said at the beginning was it? You said (and I quote): "Floyd should be in court for what he did imo." despite no legal offence having been committed. Just because Mayweather is a role model that doesn't mean that you can make up laws that are applicable to him and nobody else. You over-reacted mate, don't worry about it, it could happen to anybody.
It happened to Mayweather on Saturday night. he over-reacted, just like you did here. The only difference was that he over-reacted in the heat of the moment just after having won a fight and being criticised by someone who has long been on his case whereas you over-reacted on a bulletin board two days after the event with no pressure on you.
Just like Mayweather though, you refuse to admit that you were wrong. Are you sure you're not related?
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You know what Bilbo - I'm getting on your case a bit and I'm sorry. I can see where you are coming from and I do agree that Mayweather's behaviour was pretty unedifying.
However, it does seem that he is held to a higher standard by a lot of people on here where everything he does is wrong and it irritates me to see someone effectively post that it is right for Arreola to be banned for 6 months but that Mayweather should go to prison. The only reason they (you) say that is because its Mayweather and you hate him.
I'll leave it there.
