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Make 5 million against Margarito, or make 1-2 million and get KTFO by Martinez? I think he made the right choice.
If Cotto wins then he will have to fight Martinez sooner or later.
No way. They'll keep it in house or he'll face Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Forgot about the incestuous relationship with Arum, it will be Bradley, Pac man etcQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratNo way. They'll keep it in house or he'll face Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
don't get why Cotto is being criticized for "hand picking" opponents when he's been fighting the best from the get go, everyone has been calling for the rematch and now they're getting it, his resume is more stacked with able names than other fighters who only get praise, Cotto doesn't have to go up to fight Martinez when he still has guys like Angulo, Kirkland, etc. at 154Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratNo way. They'll keep it in house or he'll face Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
No doubt about it. There is no problem at all if he faces Angulo or Kirkland. I also don't believe Cotto would ever move up, but I am sure Martinez would go to 154 for a Cotto fight in a heart beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdon't get why Cotto is being criticized for "hand picking" opponents when he's been fighting the best from the get go, everyone has been calling for the rematch and now they're getting it, his resume is more stacked with able names than other fighters who only get praise, Cotto doesn't have to go up to fight Martinez when he still has guys like Angulo, Kirkland, etc. at 154Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratNo way. They'll keep it in house or he'll face Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Why doesn't Sergio Martinez fight someone his own size or have someone from the higher weight go down to fight him? I'm pretty sure someone will accomodate him.
He is old and deserves to make some money.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
I think Cotto is more likely to get knocked out by Margarito (again) than he is by Martinez just based on their styles.Quote:
Originally Posted by MMASUX
Really can't see cotto moving up, he has opportunities where he is anyway. He has fought a lot of top guys had a very good career. I reckon he has made fights tough for himself at times so has a lot of mileage on the clock but he always gives his all. Loads of heart tough as nails and i reckon although he is very popular now as it is he wont get the respect he truly deserves until he calls it a day and people can look back and say 'where are the cottos nowadays'
So Cotto is basically saying he isnt interested in being the best he only wants to make money?! He sounds like Pac and Floyd. The business man mindset has overtaken the sportsman in him.
Part of me wants to see Marg finish what he started but then again I wouldnt mind seeing Cotto get revenge after the Mexican cheated in the 1st fight. Either way neither of these guys are going to go on and win any big fights.
They're all in it for the money. Name one figher who isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Cotto has consistently fought elite competition, his resume is outstanding.
Train your ass off instead of having a social life and take punches to the body and head for yrs and people dont expect these guy to want good money?
If anyone deserves to be paid, it is Martinez. Martinez is at 160 but he would love to go back down to 154 (which he can still make if he is to be believed; which I do). Guys at 154 don't want to fight him.
The posters arguing Cotto has fought the best are completely right. Why does Cotto get crap for not taking any fight? He has fought more top 10 guys in their respective divisions than almost anyone in the sport.
This is a spot on post.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
Martinez deserves a big fight. Cotto doesn't need to fight Martinez. That said, a win over Martinez would thrust Cotto into the HOF if he wasn't already going there. Martinez tweeted that he hoped Margarito wins because that fight is possible to make.
This is an interesting triangle and a promoter's dream. two fighters regardless of what money is offered want a piece of the same fighter, Margarito. It's implied that he cheated after he was caught by Mosley's people and Cotto getting the worst of the deal deserves his chance at revenge. Enough about the money because he deserves it and so does Martinez if he fights Cotto after Cotto wins the fight with Margarito. That Is if things go the way they should. Margarito took a few beatings and Cotto got some licks in before those wraps got to him. This fight has two damaged fighters. Margarito has height and reach and that would make things difficult for Miguel. Cotto is a fighter and he knows the risks involved. Since that brutal KO his comeback has been spotty but remember his courage and how he became the champ and then think about how Margarito slipped after he was discovered as a cheat. If nothing else and Cotto makes this realization and anger takes it's form in a hunger to win, it may well be an interesting night for fans everywhere. Cotto has fought good, tough fighters and now deserves a payday and there's nothing wrong with that. I'd pay for that fight. Martinez is next in line if Margarito wins and like it or not, Cotto is a big threat still.
I saw a close fight, before it ended, no matter how damaged Cotto's face looked. I believe the wraps were loaded. Cotto will knock Margarito out.
Ofcourse everyone is in it for the money but there are still afew old school fighters who want to fight the best. Martinez is the best. Cotto shouldnt make money his excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThey're all in it for the money. Name one figher who isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Cotto has consistently fought elite competition, his resume is outstanding.
and apart from maybe 2 fights, when hasn't Cotto fought a top 10 guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEOfcourse everyone is in it for the money but there are still afew old school fighters who want to fight the best. Martinez is the best. Cotto shouldnt make money his excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThey're all in it for the money. Name one figher who isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Cotto has consistently fought elite competition, his resume is outstanding.
That's true although I haven't been overly impressed with his selection of opponents as a junior middleweight considering how deep of a division it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesand apart from maybe 2 fights, when hasn't Cotto fought a top 10 guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEOfcourse everyone is in it for the money but there are still afew old school fighters who want to fight the best. Martinez is the best. Cotto shouldnt make money his excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThey're all in it for the money. Name one figher who isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Cotto has consistently fought elite competition, his resume is outstanding.
Indeed. If you fight Manny Pacquiao then your not afraid of fighting any one.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
I would like to see Martinez clean up the devision by fighting Felix Sterm and then leave the reasonably weak middleweight devision and move either up or down depending on who he wants to fight.
Go up a devision and fight Ward or Bute.
Go down a devision and fight Cotto, Angulo or Alvarez.
He could go down a devision and Mayweather of Pac go up a devision and meet half way if he really wants a challange.
Dont know if pac can go up any more devisions though. You can only put on so much weight before you start slowing down.
He's smart in what he's doing. I don't see him beating Martinez. History and revenge sells with Maragrito and he and Martinez are going in different directions weight wise. Cotto vs Alvarez would be a nice scrap but Alvarez is not learning a whole lot in last couple I believe.
Well in his defense his first fight back after the Pacquiao loss and his first fight at 154 was against Foreman who was undefeated at the time and was coming off of his best performance against Santos, although he was a pillow puncher he had plenty of skill and many on here were picking him over Cotto. After the death of his father and the shoulder surgery well he took the rest of the year off and took on a gimme in Mayorga, but he did what he was supposed to which was hand out a one sided ass whooping and well finished him off in the 12th.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratThat's true although I haven't been overly impressed with his selection of opponents as a junior middleweight considering how deep of a division it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesand apart from maybe 2 fights, when hasn't Cotto fought a top 10 guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEOfcourse everyone is in it for the money but there are still afew old school fighters who want to fight the best. Martinez is the best. Cotto shouldnt make money his excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHThey're all in it for the money. Name one figher who isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Cotto has consistently fought elite competition, his resume is outstanding.
Now he's up against Margarito in the rematch, but yea i agree after he beats Margarito in the rematch (and i'm pretty damn sure he will break Margo's eye), he needs to step it up and fight Angulo and the rest of the big names at 154. IMO a Cotto/Alvarez fight would be huge and like i said in another thread he easily outboxes the kid even possibly stops him in the mid to late rounds.
We cant blame Martinez for doing so. He's not getting any younger, and his career is nearing retirement. He must have been planning to get 2 big money fights out there to secure his legacy and his pocket prior to retirement. He's the lineal champion now, but his fights barely sell. Unless he beats someone who can draw big crowds, he wont get any better than 5million.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
I would admire him even more if he tries to fight Bute. =)
There is NOOOOOO way Bob Arum would EVER feed Cotto to Martinez.
I can't believe Cotto is getting flak from some people. The guy has fought everyone i can think of who was a top guy at the time. He deserves to cash out his last couple fights and head off into the sunset. I would like to see him fight Martinez, but more because there is no big fight for Martinez. I wouldn't mind seeing them fight after, that's if he beats Margs, this but won't be mad if it doesnt happen.
Floyd would never get in the ring with Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Why not? This could be one of the 2 best fights for Mayweather right now since we all can assume that JMM lose and Bradley is next for Pacman. Fighting Cotto, at 150, for a title and not to mention, at least 30million. Besides, MM can possible show how good his boxing skills compared to Pacman against Cotto. BTW, the other big fight for MM is against Khan. Can anyone else bring in that kind of money? Not Martinez!!! Although a Martinez fight will silence a lot of haters. A lot, NOT ALL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzFloyd would never get in the ring with Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
He ducked him before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
When did Floyd duck Cotto?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHe ducked him before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Floyd never faced Cotto when Cotto was the welterweight champion and instead faced Hatton and ODLH. Pre-Margacheato Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhen did Floyd duck Cotto?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHe ducked him before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
There's a video on youtube somewhere of him out there being interviewed basically shitting himself when the interviewer asks him why he won't fight Cotto. I wouldn't just make it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhen did Floyd duck Cotto?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHe ducked him before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
What fight did MM take instead of a Cotto fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzThere's a video on youtube somewhere of him out there being interviewed basically shitting himself when the interviewer asks him why he won't fight Cotto. I wouldn't just make it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhen did Floyd duck Cotto?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHe ducked him before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Hatton. A light welterweight...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhat fight did MM take instead of a Cotto fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzThere's a video on youtube somewhere of him out there being interviewed basically shitting himself when the interviewer asks him why he won't fight Cotto. I wouldn't just make it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhen did Floyd duck Cotto?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHe ducked him before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
R U serious? Which fight would you have told Mayweather to take? Hatton brought in much more money then what Cotto would have brought in. And at that time, Hatton was undefeated(on paper) and was consider by many a real threat with his pressure, come forward style.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHatton. A light welterweight...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhat fight did MM take instead of a Cotto fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzThere's a video on youtube somewhere of him out there being interviewed basically shitting himself when the interviewer asks him why he won't fight Cotto. I wouldn't just make it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhen did Floyd duck Cotto?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHe ducked him before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
if martinez would like to make some money then maybe he should call out bernard hopkins for a catchweight fight at 170lbs instead of calling out the small guys so that he wouldn't get criticized.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is old and deserves to make some money.Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
Come off of it mate, you're having a 'mare here. Cotto was undefeated and was a CHAMPION at WELTERWEIGHT. Floyd's weight but he chose to fight a light welterweight . Floyd didn't want anything to do with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Hatton brought in more money. That is the main reason why Floyd fought Hatton. End of story. As for a challenge, there is no debate, Cotto or Margarito were looked at as bigger challenges then. At the time, the boxing world was practically begging for a Floyd v. Cotto or a Floyd v. Margarito match-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveR U serious? Which fight would you have told Mayweather to take? Hatton brought in much more money then what Cotto would have brought in. And at that time, Hatton was undefeated(on paper) and was consider by many a real threat with his pressure, come forward style.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHatton. A light welterweight...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhat fight did MM take instead of a Cotto fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzThere's a video on youtube somewhere of him out there being interviewed basically shitting himself when the interviewer asks him why he won't fight Cotto. I wouldn't just make it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhen did Floyd duck Cotto?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHe ducked him before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Instead, Floyd fought Hatton. Outside of his loyal supporters, no one gave Hatton a chance in that fight and Floyd actually got a bit of flack for taking it given Hatton's performance at welterweight prior to it.
You ask about what fight i would have advised Floyd to take? For legacy, Cotto and Margarito. For pure money, Hatton. .
i guess that's what floyd saw when he asked hatton to fight at welter. floyd knew the hatton fight was the lesser risk with the bigger reward. it would have been an emphatically more impressive win at 140 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratHatton brought in more money. That is the main reason why Floyd fought Hatton. End of story. As for a challenge, there is no debate, Cotto or Margarito were looked at as bigger challenges then. At the time, the boxing world was practically begging for a Floyd v. Cotto or a Floyd v. Margarito match-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveR U serious? Which fight would you have told Mayweather to take? Hatton brought in much more money then what Cotto would have brought in. And at that time, Hatton was undefeated(on paper) and was consider by many a real threat with his pressure, come forward style.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHatton. A light welterweight...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhat fight did MM take instead of a Cotto fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzThere's a video on youtube somewhere of him out there being interviewed basically shitting himself when the interviewer asks him why he won't fight Cotto. I wouldn't just make it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveWhen did Floyd duck Cotto?Quote:
Originally Posted by boxingbantzHe ducked him before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Instead, Floyd fought Hatton. Outside of his loyal supporters, no one gave Hatton a chance in that fight and Floyd actually got a bit of flack for taking it given Hatton's performance at welterweight prior to it.
You ask about what fight i would have advised Floyd to take? For legacy, Cotto and Margarito. For pure money, Hatton. .