Is it ever okay for a man to raise his fists to a woman?

I was out this evening with some friends and after a few drinks a girl at our table raised her arms and showed bruises which she was forced to admit came from her boyfriend. Apparently they were making out after a few drinks and she called out the name of some previous guy she had been intimate with. And so he got pissed off and shook her thus causing the bruises on the arms and apparently also on the back.

Now that to me is violence against a woman. Okay, now she made a mistake by calling some guys name while intimate, but is it ever okay to raise the violence to the level where you are shaking someone and causing bruises to a woman?

I start this thread having been the recipient of violence against mankind myself, but for some reason I have the superhuman ability to absorb my wife's blows and only ever scar when I take the knife to myself.

So what are your views on domestic violence and in particular guys who lose it against women? It seems she is willing to give this creep another free run, but I argue otherwise. What are your views on this issue?

There are two occasions when it is perfectly acceptable to raise your fists to a woman, if :-


i) she is being unreasonable

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ii) she is in the wrong


Not acceptable at any other time

I had a guy knock me off a chair in a bar, pinned me to the floor and hand his hand on my throat and pulled his other arm back - not a lot of defence when someone attacks you from behind like that.

Thing is after - I was calm angry - everyone was fussing round me and the only thing I saw was a kitchen knife on the table next to me and him halfway across the room. If they went there asking me if I was ok, I would have stabbed the fucker no question (or at least gone to).

I've not pulled the trigger it but I know I can get angry enough to lash out. I also know if any fella does hit me I'd end up done for murder/manslaughter.

People also ignore the signs....


Most men are bigger/stronger than most women so will do more damage if they hit a woman. Most fellas wouldnt punch a kid or granny in the face so why a woman.

Not really a shocker I think this way.

If she was attacking your family and putting them in danger then you would stand up and knock her out.

If she is trying to stab you in the eye yes, unless she is doing so because you have once again raised and or used your fist on her. In which case you should just take your stabbing like a man.

I would never hit a woman unless like stated above there where attacking my wife, kids or my life.

but it is totally wrong to hit a woman just because your angry... scum bags do that.

as for that girl shouting out another guys name its, no big deal.... my wife always shouts out another mans name during sex and if i ever find out who that fucker Jesus is, i'll kill him. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Saddo

I would never hit a woman unless like stated above there where attacking my wife, kids or my life.

but it is totally wrong to hit a woman just because your angry... scum bags do that.

as for that girl shouting out another guys name its, no big deal.... my wife always shouts out another mans name during sex and if i ever find out who that fucker Jesus is, i'll kill him. :mad:

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Well with a face like your..... ;) (avatar)

It's never appropriate to use violence against anyone unless it's in self-defence or other very extreme circumstances.

As someone whose 4 foot 11 mother was the victim of domestic violence, I find abusers disgusting. My uncle's took care of the guy who did it to her though :).

Yes, I agree that it is totally wrong. You should just call her a stupid bitch and order her out and then make the choice to never talk again or else forgive, but to cause physical bruises? I think that is quite terrible. I think it is obvious he is only going to do it again, but only she can make the big choices.

It is never appropiate to hit a woman but unfortunately it is necessary at times. I am lucky because I have sisters who have served as a deterrent for any females who have even thought about raising their hands against me.

I can imagine a situation where a woman is beating you and a slap being given in return being appropriate. I have never done that, but my wife punches as hard as summer rain, you barely feel it. I have always found the best way to deal with a violent female is to simply smash up the rice cooker. Best way to get to an Asian IMO. With western women it is probably the same trashing their burgers and microwave ovens.

I've see women who are far more violent than men. The idea that the man they were attacking (sometimes virtual strangers) should not be allowed to chin them is frankly ridiculous.

All situations are different.

If they are ugly.

What do you say to a woman with two Black eyes?











































































Nothing!! You've already told her twice!!

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I've see women who are far more violent than men. The idea that the man they were attacking (sometimes virtual strangers) should not be allowed to chin them is frankly ridiculous.

All situations are different.

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It's quite interesting to me how it seems quite acceptable in society for a woman to fly into a rage and hit a man and it is typically ignored. But if a man does the same thing he is automatically the devil.

I agree that neither gender should fly off the handle and deck the other, but I think there are clear double standards.

Men are taught to never hit a woman, but I don't think that line is ever reinforced with women. Still, in this case I don't think it was right for a woman to be bruised up. Anyone leading the attack is an out of control lunatic IMO.

If a woman starts hitting you or pulls a blade on you, are we expected to just stand there? Nah, I'd do whatever I need to to protect myself, be it man woman, Bilbo or Dog.

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I've see women who are far more violent than men. The idea that the man they were attacking (sometimes virtual strangers) should not be allowed to chin them is frankly ridiculous.

All situations are different.

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It's quite interesting to me how it seems quite acceptable in society for a woman to fly into a rage and hit a man and it is typically ignored. But if a man does the same thing he is automatically the devil.

I agree that neither gender should fly off the handle and deck the other, but I think there are clear double standards.

Men are taught to never hit a woman, but I don't think that line is ever reinforced with women. Still, in this case I don't think it was right for a woman to be bruised up. Anyone leading the attack is an out of control lunatic IMO.

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Yeah your friends attack seems a wrongun.

If you get violent you should be prepared to take it back. Women shouldn't get an exemption.

What's worse is when the woman attacks the man, he does nothing but block the attack, then some other guys get involved and iron him out when it was blatantly the loony bird causing aggro.

It is Tong Ting, not Ting Tong.



Missy was probably attacked by a forum member.

I would never ever hit a woman except if my physical integrity or the one of somebody around me is being threatened seriously (from my judgementof the moment, of course). A girl trying to push me could be ok, a girl shouting like there is no tomorrow doesn't bother me, a girl trying to punch me.... NO GOOD. I wouldn't fire back at the first punch but if she keeps being crazy or tries to really hurt me (especially if she has a weapon), without shame, I'll do what I gotta do to protect me.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

It is Tong Ting, not Ting Tong.



Missy was probably attacked by a forum member.

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No

Yeh, but what's that got to do with hitting woman :-)

Once at a Bar this Woman became insulting, She said to Me, if I was Married to you Id Poison you. My reply was if I was married to you Id Drink it ;D

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Yeh, but what's that got to do with hitting woman :-)

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Ha! Wrong thread, will delete.

If she's a total psychobitch, like Glenn Close in fatal attraction...

Then I guess it's okay.

You should never hit a woman I know but can we grab their hair and trip em over?

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Originally Posted by Andre

You should never hit a woman I know but can we grab their hair and trip em over?

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Yes. But she needs to spin 360 in mid air.

I feel quite sure that threre are exceptions, like having to defend yourself, not all women are wilting flowers, (think Anne Wolfe) some are more then capable of doing some serious damage, especially if they're really pissed off or fucked up on drugs or alcohol.

I've never had it happen, but if a woman hauled off and hit me, or tried to kick me in the nuts, it would take a lot of self restraint not to retaliate. Having said that, I hope that I never have to strike a female, even in self-defense there's just something terribly wrong about that.

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

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Originally Posted by Andre

You should never hit a woman I know but can we grab their hair and trip em over?

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Yes. But she needs to spin 360 in mid air.

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• Yes for sure bro! Full air action, for the woman who thinks she can belt a man and get away with it. ;D Weee.

I had one tee off on me once when younger and at the pub I had said some damaging things to back up a mate of mine she was tearing to shreds and I deserved a belting,but she really hurt her stupid skinny arms and wrists on my very hard head. :) Its was actually fun like Tysons forehead blocks except she was so lousy a shot and a swinger for the trees I didnt have to even react much. Good night all round.

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Originally Posted by Andre

I had one tee off on me once when younger and at the pub I had said some damaging things to back up a mate of mine she was tearing to shreds and I deserved a belting,but she really hurt her stupid skinny arms and wrists on my very hard head. :) Its was actually fun like Tysons forehead blocks except she was so lousy a shot and a swinger for the trees I didnt have to even react much. Good night all round.

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That sounds like foreplay to me.

It's all about necessity and levels. You want to pacify a girl? Why? If you really think it's necessary fine, but don't go over board. I'm sure a simple arm lock would suffice. Maybe a flying triangle.

Seriously though, in any circumstance it's weak to want to 'get at' someone who is clearly weaker than you. Man woman or child.

There's a chick here in Melbourne who loves taking out the eyes of men who so much as look at her sideways.
Try pacify that little demon.

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

It's all about necessity and levels. You want to pacify a girl? Why? If you really think it's necessary fine, but don't go over board. I'm sure a simple arm lock would suffice. Maybe a flying triangle.

Seriously though, in any circumstance it's weak to want to 'get at' someone who is clearly weaker than you. Man woman or child.

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I agree. I got attacked by a lady with a butcher knife. She cut me pretty good. Scared the shit out of me. But I broke her knife and put her on the ground and sat on her until the police came. I shiver whenever I think about it.
But most women (and children) are much weaker than most men and even if you are attacked, you should only use the force necessary to keep them from harming you. You should never use force for any other reason, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Andre

There's a chick here in Melbourne who loves taking out the eyes of men who so much as look at her sideways.
Try pacify that little demon.

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Have the police not caught her yet then? :(

Missy?

What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?



Nothing, she's already been told twice.

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

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Originally Posted by Andre

There's a chick here in Melbourne who loves taking out the eyes of men who so much as look at her sideways.
Try pacify that little demon.

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Have the police not caught her yet then? :(

Missy?

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I dont know,
I know some in the gay community here and one fellow I know is as mean as cat shit he told me he isnt nothing compared to this lesbian friend of his who was attacked and raped in her younger years, she attacks males in the streets for just looking at her and she doesnt stop.

One chick who was like her in the anger department stepped out in front a train a few years back lived and is now in nuff nuff land under gov care, could of been her :-\ .


Nothing gets mentioned here in news papers concerning any horrible stuff that will effect tourism to central Melbourne as we dont import anything its our bread and butter that and building.

We had an alley way murderer in Melbourne who would aim at young drunk men coming from night clubs and would do unthinkable things, for many years. i read about the asshole/assholes only in the police gazette at a mates house and was shocked and realized then just how protected the whole system is.

Fuck me thats a big echo...

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus

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Originally Posted by Andre

There's a chick here in Melbourne who loves taking out the eyes of men who so much as look at her sideways.
Try pacify that little demon.

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Have the police not caught her yet then? :(

Missy?

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I dont know,
I know some in the gay community here and one fellow I know is as mean as cat shit he told me he isnt nothing compared to this lesbian friend of his who was attacked and raped in her younger years, she attacks males in the streets for just looking at her and she doesnt stop.

One chick who was like her in the anger department stepped out in front a train a few years back lived and is now in nuff nuff land under gov care, could of been her :-\ .


Nothing gets mentioned here in news papers concerning any horrible stuff that will effect tourism to central Melbourne as we dont import anything its our bread and butter that and building.

We had an alley way murderer in Melbourne who would aim at young drunk men coming from night clubs and would do unthinkable things, for many years. i read about the asshole/assholes only in the police gazette at a mates house and was shocked and realized then just how protected the whole system is.

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This belongs in the keeping in the dark thread, keeping crime quiet so as not to cause a moral panic or commercial interests.

Only if you're gonna donkey punch her during sex.

Naw, I believe a man can use his fists only under extreme extreme circumstances... Some people say that a man should NEVER hit a woman but that's bullshit.. it really depends.

BY extreme circumstances, Im talking about if a woman were to physically abuse or even kill our child.. then that pimp hand must come into play.. fuck that.

Or if a real threatening women ( someone like Chyna or All Wolfe ) were to come at me all crazy, trying to harm me, then yea, i wouldnt hesitate to put her down..

Woman has to act like a woman for me to treat her like one.. If she wants to act like a man, then ill treat her accordingly.

Women want things both ways it seems.. They cry for equality but then as soon as they are at some kind of disadvantage, they start pulling out that " But im a woman " card.. Well they can't have it both ways.. choose one..