Hopkins WBC champion again...wow

In regards to the championship defense of the lightweight WBC world champion between Bernard Hopkins and Chad Dawson, held in Los Angeles, California, in which the referee declared a KOT2 against champion Hopkins, as he could not continue due to an injury after a push by challenger Dawson, the head offices of the WBC sent videos, medical reports, and the WBC corresponding rules to the Board of Governors, that unanimously declared a Technical Draw on the fight; therefore, Bernard Hopkins is still the WBC Light heavyweight champion of the world.

The WBC Board of Governors, after reviewing the video of the fight, unanimously declared that the action reflects a Clear intentional lifting the body followed with a push by Dawson to Hopkins, that made him fall on his left side with part of his body out of the ropes.

The California Hospital Medical Center report was also considered by the Board, which states “Bernard Hopkins has been released from the California Medical Center in Los Angeles after being x-rayed and examined by Dr. Sam Thurber, MD who diagnosed Hopkins with a separation of the acromioclavicular (A-C) joint which connects the collar bone and shoulder blade.”

The WBC considered that point 29 of the rule WC-34, related to fouls was violated: “any rough tactics other than clean punches,” covered the ruling of the WBC.

WBC rule WC-32 was followed for the Boards consideration: “Injuries from head butts, elbows, or other accidental or illegal actions (injury). The following description applies to injuries from not only head butts and elbows, but from any other accidental or illegal action as well if the bout can not continue:

* There will be a point deduction
* Technical draw if before the start of the 5th round
* Technical decision as per scorecards, if after the fifth round

Article WC- 33 was also considered: Body Fouls — except as provided below, there will be no disqualification for fouls to the body. The referee, at his discretion, determines that there was a foul and the ring doctor determines that the fouled boxer cannot continue, the offending boxer will be disqualified. If the doctor determines the fouled boxer can continue fighting but he does not continue, he will lose by abandonment.

In conclusion, after examining thoroughly the video of the fight and the medical report, as well as the corresponding rules, the WBC Board of Governors decided unanimously to declare the bout as a technical draw and consider Bernard Hopkins still as the WBC Light heavyweight champion of the world; the WBC regrets its unavailability of implementing the instant video replay at the fight, due to the fact that the California Commission does not have that rule.

The WBC respects and can not intervene in the decisions of the boxing commissions where the fights happen, but it does intervene in regards of the recognition of a WBC title of the world, by being the exclusive owners of the trademark and championship accolades – ee hope that the California Commission will review our ruling on their next meeting in December.

Can't argue with that

That was one long winded, obtusely written and vaguely worded document, definitely the product of a committee. :-X

By their definition it sounds like Chad should have been disqualified, I don't see how they reached a technical draw decision.

Anyway I'm pleased. Bad Chad's post fight speech all seems rather silly now that they are taking the belt back off him. I wonder if he still sees no point in a rematch with B Hop?

I wish they would have reversed it to a Hopkins win by 2nd round DQ though, if only for the shitstorm that would have followed.

it the WBC so it is hard to really care about their decision. Wonder what Ring magazine and the California Commission will do.

I'm just amazed they didn't take the opportunity to make them both world champions.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm just amazed they didn't take the opportunity to make them both world champions.

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LOL......give it time!

Where does Hopkins go from this now? Will he rematch Dawson? I do want to see this fight again , no way anybody was a winner from that.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm just amazed they didn't take the opportunity to make them both world champions.

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Don't give them any ideas. I'm sure they would like to create another belt and collect some more fees. And the NEW!!!! WBC cubic zirconia champion.....Chad Dawson!!!!!

Not surprised!had to happen. No dowt now we will have to suffer a rematch really wasn't looking forward to this fight in the first place. Fingers crossed we get a good undercard again.

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Originally Posted by captainanddew

it the WBC so it is hard to really care about their decision. Wonder what Ring magazine and the California Commission will do.

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I'm sure I read somewhere the Ring have given him the belt back too. I think they did it on the night of the fight.

Let dawson fight clevely.
Winner fights pascal.
Winner fights hopkins.

How old will Hopkins be then 50 ? no thank's he's shit to watch in his 40's, and come to think of it in his 30's as well ppv more good money down the:LOS: Champion again my:moon-new:

cleverly smokes dawson any night of the week.

i can hear him now "USA! USA!" etc

Yes ;D:sheep:CLEVERLY

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm just amazed they didn't take the opportunity to make them both world champions.

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lol, quality....yeah interim WBC based on tech draw that was actually a disqualification belt champion! :rolleyes:

Wait, they gave him back the title, but the official result is still a TKO for Dawson?

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Originally Posted by Vendettos

Wait, they gave him back the title, but the official result is still a TKO for Dawson?

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No its a technical draw....the TKO is no longer valid.

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Originally Posted by rampant

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Originally Posted by Vendettos

Wait, they gave him back the title, but the official result is still a TKO for Dawson?

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No its a technical draw....the TKO is no longer valid.

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Yeah but from what I've read, only the WBC changed the title back to Hopkins!

The state of California still consider the fight a TKO for Dawson!

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Originally Posted by Dia bando

How old will Hopkins be then 50 ? no thank's he's shit to watch in his 40's, and come to think of it in his 30's as well ppv more good money down the:LOS: Champion again my:moon-new:

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:spamsign:


Dia Bando = :beat:

So how's this gonna pan out? Who fights who? More disappointment on the way no doubt...

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm just amazed they didn't take the opportunity to make them both world champions.

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Bilbo - aren't you the ardent supporter of the boxing organizations?

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

cleverly smokes dawson any night of the week.

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Cleverly would be so far out of depth, it would be comical. Dawson should try his hardest to land a Cleverly fight. That's the money move.

All need to stay away from the Black Russian.

This was the correct move by the WBC by the way. It was a no contest.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm just amazed they didn't take the opportunity to make them both world champions.

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Bilbo - aren't you the ardent supporter of the boxing organizations?

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

cleverly smokes dawson any night of the week.

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Cleverly would be so far out of depth, it would be comical. Dawson should try his hardest to land a Cleverly fight. That's the money move.

All need to stay away from the Black Russian.

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Who are you speaking of ?

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

I'm just amazed they didn't take the opportunity to make them both world champions.

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Bilbo - aren't you the ardent supporter of the boxing organizations?

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

cleverly smokes dawson any night of the week.

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Cleverly would be so far out of depth, it would be comical. Dawson should try his hardest to land a Cleverly fight. That's the money move.

All need to stay away from the Black Russian.

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Who are you speaking of ?

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Ismayl Sillakh - imho, the best at 175 right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvmRZihbmb8

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Originally Posted by rampant

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Originally Posted by Vendettos

Wait, they gave him back the title, but the official result is still a TKO for Dawson?

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No its a technical draw....the TKO is no longer valid.

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The TKO loss still stands until the commission review the situation and change the result.

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Originally Posted by Vendettos

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Originally Posted by rampant

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Originally Posted by Vendettos

Wait, they gave him back the title, but the official result is still a TKO for Dawson?

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No its a technical draw....the TKO is no longer valid.

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Yeah but from what I've read, only the WBC changed the title back to Hopkins!

The state of California still consider the fight a TKO for Dawson!

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Yes you are right.

They have yet to have a meeting regarding the outcome of the fight.

I expect the result to change once they do though.

I see your a bit of a fan of Hopshit pug,;D well there a boxing fan's and Hopshit fan's great boxer my;;D;D:moon-new:

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Originally Posted by Dia bando

I see your a bit of a fan of Hopshit pug,;D well there a boxing fan's and Hopshit fan's great boxer my;;D;D:moon-new:

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and from what i've seen you're neither, cause you don't have to like Hopkins to realize that's he's one of the best technicians of the last 15 yrs, you don't accomplish what the man has by being as you put it "shit"

20 title defenses at Middleweight, jumps up 2 divisions and dominates the Lineal Champ (Tarver) when he was a massive underdog, loses a controversial decision to Calzaghe, then goes on to again dominate the younger undefeated fighter while being a massive underdog, looks like shit against Ornelas and Jones Jr, then beats the shit out of Pascal TWICE, both times going in as the underdog

you don't have W's against the likes of the following names and if you can't fight for shit

John David Jackson
Glen Johnson
Simon Brown
Robert Allen
Antwun Echols
Felix Trinidad
William Joppy
Oscar De La Hoya
Antonio Tarver
Winky Wright
Kelly Pavlik
Roy Jones Jr
Jean Pascal

Justice is done, Dawson looks like he has burnt his bridges and opportunities and Hopkins should have one last fight and call it a day.

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Originally Posted by Master

Justice is done, Dawson looks like he has burnt his bridges and opportunities and Hopkins should have one last fight and call it a day.

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Dawson has burnt his bridges? Not really, Hopkins still looks like a fraud in the eyes of many. Hopkins should indeed have a last fight and Dawson it should be.

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by Master

Justice is done, Dawson looks like he has burnt his bridges and opportunities and Hopkins should have one last fight and call it a day.

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Dawson has burnt his bridges? Not really, Hopkins still looks like a fraud in the eyes of many. Hopkins should indeed have a last fight and Dawson it should be.

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Hopkins and Dawson do not want it, fans do not want to watch it, so they have to go separate ways.

Hopkins dirty fighter nothing more, you have to be a fan technican :confused:Marvin Hagler now that's a technican ;D

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Originally Posted by Dia bando

I see your a bit of a fan of Hopshit pug,;D well there a boxing fan's and Hopshit fan's great boxer my;;D;D:moon-new:

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Well if you regard Hopkins as shit then who do you rate as great boxers then ? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

cleverly smokes dawson any night of the week.

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The guy who went 12 rounds with Bellew is gonna smoke Chad?? lol.. c'mon Brockton..
You're just saying that.. ;D

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

cleverly smokes dawson any night of the week.

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The guy who went 12 rounds with Bellew is gonna smoke Chad?? lol.. c'mon Brockton..
You're just saying that.. ;D

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Don't think he seen the same Cleverly we saw the other night.

Bad Chad would batter him imo.

In the past Hopkins has been a dirty fighter but look at where he learned to ply his trade. The cross bar hotel no less. He is a non caring person who thinks the rules did not apply to him but Hopkins is an opportunist and he like it or not he applied the rules. Dawson as far as I am concerned can still be a good fighter if he just stops listening to rants of dirty old men like Hopkins. There was an old time saying that still applies,"There's a sucker born every minute." Guess which one that was? They should, (A) walk away from each other or(B) get it on, on regular cable because I know neither of them deserve it and no one is getting a refund for that last debacle. This time I think Hopkins should lose points for opening his fat mouth. Give the fans what they want, leave wrestling to the WWE and the mixed martial arts people. Box and shut up. Dawson should get some therapy because anger is what made him make the stupid move he made. I thought he had the potential to win this fight and he let a man with a big mouth get to him. Fight again, this time for real or find another opponent because it insults the fans to put up with this excrement.

MARVIN HAGLER pug:action:

May i just say I have Seen lot's of great fighter's but old Bernardo is not one of THEM pug, you may worship that man, but a bit like shit with sugar on it may be sweet but it's still SHIT.:nopity: