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I'm really looking forward to this. I think it will be just as action packed as the first fight. Say what you want about the handwrap scandal, Margo can take a punch. I have a sneaky suspicion that Margo is going to win this again but who knows. In my opinion, this has "Fight of the Year" written all over it. I'd like to hear what others think.
Can't wait for this. I agree that it will be much like the first with AM getting a late KO. That said it depends how much the PAC losses have taken out of each man. I feel that Cotto probably came out worse so I could see an earlier stoppage this time. Will be great while it lasts.
I say cotto wins a wide ud this time, I dont think he'll get sucked in to a brawl this time.
Not a bad shout but he always seems to fade in the middle to late rounds for me and that is when AM gets him. Hope I'm wrong though as I like Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrhydro
think it will end similar to the first. I don't think Cotto should get on his toes and let Margarito stalk him.
Gutted this is same night as Mares Agbeko
Exactly. Cotto was boxing well. Scoring some combinations and going back to a safe distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrhydro
I think Cotto wins a decision but not without a few shakey moments along the way
I'm going with Margarito. I agree with someone, that fighting Pacman, took more out of Cotto then Margarito. Although Margarito eye was left in a career ending state.
Just wishing for a good fair fight. Will be interesting to hear Manny Ste on ringside.
I think Cotto struggles with high output fighters and seeing as he cannot hurt Margarito he is going to be worn down again. It will be fun, but Cotto is going to get busted up. I think he will quit with less damage being taken.
2 points...
If Cotto can target that bad eye of Margacheato's, it could easily be a stoppage win for him. It was badly damaged and it could reoccur. If it flares up the ref/doctor will not have any hesistation in stopping the fight given the type of injury.
If it does go the distance then Cotto will win. Close rounds in this particular fight get scored to Cotto. I believe Marg only wins rounds on the cards if he CLEARLY wins a round. Due to Margaritos chequered past the judges will want Cotto to win, the TV network will want Cotto to win, the ref will want Cotto to win and the fans will want Cotto to win. No one wants to see a cheat rewarded here. Cotto will be favoured on the cards no question.
For those thinking Margarito will stop Cotto then I suggest you put your money down, you can obtain 11/2 on a stoppage. 11/1 on a 9-12 stoppage.
I may take that action. Margo can take a punch and doesn't quit. It will be interesting but if this busts out into a brawl (which it normally does with two fighters of this style) then Margo I think will win. As much as Cotto will want to keep this at a distance Margo does have the ability pressure him into a corner and keep him there for a while. He's got the wing span of a dragon. He does that enough times and Cotto's out. I don't see this going to the scorecards at all. And I for one can tell you how damaging it can be to your mindset when you constantly hit someone with your best shots and they still keep coming forward. Cotto is the fan favorite, but in my opinion he loses this one. But like i said, I could be wrong.
Think Cotto wins this because even though Manny beat both brutally, it was not that recent for Cotto, who has sufficiently recovered and won his fights. I believe Cotto will attack more to the body, like Shane did, and slow down Marg and win by a UD.
Ahhhh I remember the first fight so well, I remember not having an internet connection for some reason at home that night and driving 20 minutes to my office to jump on Saddo after the fight.
I dont think this one will be as exciting as last one as I dont think Margo will have the same punch output and that very well could be the reason that he loses the rematch.
It'll be great to see how the two fighters react to ech other in the ring after everything that has happened after their first fight.
Hope Im wrong, but I think Margacheeeto takes him all the way into battle as he likes it. Good even fight for a while then the harder chin,more to prove stands taller.
If it doesnt go this way and Margo gets wobbled, I dont think they wont stop it real early for him could get nasty or a corner save :-\.
I've begun to take tranquilizers already.
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Margarito is going to knock Cotto out again.
Unfortunately I believe you are correct.Quote:
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Originally Posted by HulkUnfortunately I believe you are correct.Quote:
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Not me, ud cotto
It will be close but he'll pip it
Dont think the fight will be as good as the first one, which would be a shame
I think he fights smart enough and maybe a bit cautious this time and I dont think AM is the same fighter as before.Quote:
Originally Posted by WallaceNot a bad shout but he always seems to fade in the middle to late rounds for me and that is when AM gets him. Hope I'm wrong though as I like Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrhydro
I don't think Cotto has the chin or the stamina to stand up to Margarito's relentless pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkUnfortunately I believe you are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Not me, ud cotto
It will be close but he'll pip it
Dont think the fight will be as good as the first one, which would be a shame
I do not think Marg, eye socket will take the hooks from Cotto either, damaged fighters but both have a lot of heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI don't think Cotto has the chin or the stamina to stand up to Margarito's relentless pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkUnfortunately I believe you are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Not me, ud cotto
It will be close but he'll pip it
Dont think the fight will be as good as the first one, which would be a shame
The first fight they had was exciting in some instances it was punch for punch and Cotto foolishly responded instead of boxing. No on knew about the wraps until Mosely was ready to fight him. Cotto won against Mosley because he did not stray away from the fight plan but now he's damaged goods. Good news so is Margo. The one that wins is the one with the most hunger and the ability to follow his game plan. Margo is meaner than Cotto so the game plan begins here, Cotto Boxes and Margo stalks him. The junk yard dog vs. the wolf.
I think Margarito has slipped further than Cotto coming into this fight. I see Cotto winning a decision or possibly stopping him lateQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHI don't think Cotto has the chin or the stamina to stand up to Margarito's relentless pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkUnfortunately I believe you are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Not me, ud cotto
It will be close but he'll pip it
Dont think the fight will be as good as the first one, which would be a shame
I initially thought leaving Manny Stewart before the fight was a stupid move, and it may still prove to be Cotto's undoing. But I'm hearing good things about his training with this new Cuban guy. Apparently they're working hard on his stamina, and the Cuban (don't remember his name right off hand) is also putting him through some unorthodox training methods. Let's hope it works.
Not sure if I'm the only one but I see Cotto dominating this fight
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Originally Posted by Galaxy
I'm a little worried about the psychological aspect, but I sure hope you're right.
Sure there are concerns but Margarito has looked very ordinary since the 1st Cotto fight. I'm sure the damage from that fight, followed by Mosley's beating, the layoff, the brutal battering at the hands of Pacquiao have take there toll on Margarito alsoQuote:
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Originally Posted by Galaxy
I'm a little worried about the psychological aspect, but I sure hope you're right.
You know, I would say exactly the same thing about Cotto. He's fought worse competition than Margarito, but IMO has looked just as bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxySure there are concerns but Margarito has looked very ordinary since the 1st Cotto fight. I'm sure the damage from that fight, followed by Mosley's beating, the layoff, the brutal battering at the hands of Pacquiao have take there toll on Margarito alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I'm a little worried about the psychological aspect, but I sure hope you're right.
A shaky chin and a career marked by stamina problems have me picked against Cotto, but I'd love him to prove me wrong.
You could be right, I'd have there competition as similar though since they 1st fought. I think the solid outing against Mayorga will be beneficial to Cotto coming into this fight, whereas Margarito may still have some lingering effects from Pacquio's drummingQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHYou know, I would say exactly the same thing about Cotto. He's fought worse competition than Margarito, but IMO has looked just as bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxySure there are concerns but Margarito has looked very ordinary since the 1st Cotto fight. I'm sure the damage from that fight, followed by Mosley's beating, the layoff, the brutal battering at the hands of Pacquiao have take there toll on Margarito alsoQuote:
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Originally Posted by Galaxy
I'm a little worried about the psychological aspect, but I sure hope you're right.
A shaky chin and a career marked by stamina problems have me picked against Cotto, but I'd love him to prove me wrong.
That's true. Cotto is father removed from his beatings than Margarito.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyYou could be right, I'd have there competition as similar though since they 1st fought. I think the solid outing against Mayorga will be beneficial to Cotto coming into this fight, whereas Margarito may still have some lingering effects from Pacquio's drummingQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHYou know, I would say exactly the same thing about Cotto. He's fought worse competition than Margarito, but IMO has looked just as bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxySure there are concerns but Margarito has looked very ordinary since the 1st Cotto fight. I'm sure the damage from that fight, followed by Mosley's beating, the layoff, the brutal battering at the hands of Pacquiao have take there toll on Margarito alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I'm a little worried about the psychological aspect, but I sure hope you're right.
A shaky chin and a career marked by stamina problems have me picked against Cotto, but I'd love him to prove me wrong.
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Originally Posted by CFH
I dont think cotto will take as many punches this time, there will be a lot more hugging and hell land more of the cleaner shots and win the rounds
Yeah I think Cotto will tie up more when Margarito gets close, Cotto has to fight smart & not get drawn inQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I dont think cotto will take as many punches this time, there will be a lot more hugging and hell land more of the cleaner shots and win the rounds
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You and me both. :p
Of course I have to have faith in my guy, and believe that he'll get his revenge, but that doesn't mean that I'm not nervous as fuck about this fight. I will be a complete wreck the week of the fight, and will most certainly be a little scared to watch the fight itself. :OhNo:
Yep, I was like wtf are you thinking Miguel with getting rid of Manny, it didn't work out too good the last time you did that before a big fight. That, and I know nothing about his new trainer Diaz, but like you I've been hearing and seeing some good reports coming out of his camp.Quote:
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In case you didn't see this video, here is some coverage of his training, and I'm glad to see and hear that they are working hard on his endurance. Laughed at, but liked how he made himself dizzy, and then started fighting in order to get accustomed to a situation where if he is rocked, he can react despite the feelings of dizziness and disorientation he may be experiencing. Never seen him do that before.
I had to watch this with Danny so he could translate for me. ;)
Dinámico entrenamiento para Cotto - El Nuevo Día
If you look to the right of the video you will see some others to watch.
Here's a teaser video of HBO's Face-Off for the fight. Can't wait to see the whole episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dBQl...layer_embedded
What an opportunistic move by Cotto.. He had to wait until Margarito was badly beaten ( Orbital bone injuries stays forever ) to take a rematch..
He tried to get an advantage by calling a catchweight but that didnt work so now he settles for 153.. wtf is is 153.. smh
Even if he does win, he should get partial credit.
Margarito all day baby..
He's not trying to get credit though. He's trying to beat up someone he feels seriously wronged him while making several million dollars in the process. I don't think he's concerned about fairness or credibility.Quote:
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Originally Posted by CFHHe's not trying to get credit though. He's trying to beat up someone he feels seriously wronged him while making several million dollars in the process. I don't think he's concerned about fairness or credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
That makes sense..
I don't think it's an opportunistic move by Cotto. You have to realize that this will be Margarito's only second fight in the US after coming off a suspension. There wasn't any earlier opportunity for Cotto to fight Margarito.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
I see this as a close fight, wants Cotto to win but thinks Margarito will win. So, for me, Cotto gets full credit if he wins.
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Partial credit my ass. If anything, he should have stayed firm on 147. Jr. middle is not Miguel's best weight, given his lack of height. And oh yeah... I'm sure Cotto waited until Margarito got his eye socket blown out before taking a rematch. Cotto, who's never ducked anyone in his entire life.
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Do you actually READ what you write before you hit "send"?
Which has the most left in there tank,? Cotto or Margarito I dont no to me 50 50, fight at this point in there career's we will all have to wait till they get in that ring.?:dontknow: