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Ben Thompson of FH was talking to Arum, Ariza, Roach and pacman himself and now he had the opportunity to send the messages over to Floyd's camp -- Ellerbe in particular. Here what he posted on his blog:
Seems their making progress now. They even got the date.
FIGHTHYPE \\ LEONARD ELLERBE: "TEAM MAYWEATHER IS LOOKING TO MAKE THE BIGGEST FIGHT POSSIBLE AND EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THAT FIGHT IS"
FIGHTHYPE \\ MAYWEATHER PLANS MAY 5 RETURN; WANTS "BIGGEST FIGHT POSSIBLE" AGAINST PACQUIAO
Now watch Marquez stop Pacquiao...
That will be funny;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Is Floyd trying to start the mind games already? In hopes that Pacman start thinking about Mayweather instead of JMM?
I'll believe it when the fight is signed. I'm past caring about hype for this never materialising fight.
Hopefully Marquez knocks out Pac and we are done with this monotony.
It won't happen. Also y'all think that jm will have enough speed and power to ko PAC at that weight? The same PAC who has proven over and over again that he has a chin?
It's not Marquez'z speed that has ever caused Pac trouble, it's his timing and skill, the same things that Mayweather has over Pac!Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
Has he grown a PAIR, ....thought it shrunk to the size of raisins?
No, you are confused. Manny likely has testicles the size of raisin's, Floyd according to all statistical reference points might be better off.Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
Prunes, dates! Sun Maid!;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milesNo, you are confused. Manny likely has testicles the size of raisin's, Floyd according to all statistical reference points might be better off.Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
This was posted to ESPN last night as well. The Pacman fight will be competitive for about 5-6 rounds. I see it going to a one sided fight after that. It will be interesting to see if JMM can stay on his feet the whole time though. Something he hasn't been able to do against Manny yet.
Or Mayweather and Katsidis.Quote:
Originally Posted by 15rounder
Out of Marquez and Pacquiao, it will be Pacquiao whos age will effect him more because he doesnt have the skills that can carry Marquez amongst the sports best at 38. If he suddenly slows down a little, Marquez WILL take advantage. Look at his last few opponents, none of them have the skill to counter speed, so we wouldnt have seen the evidence of him slowing down if he has. He may just get a shock suddenly up against a man who has an answer for everything he does and doesnt just want to touch gloves all night, or put up the ear muff defence or be a walking punch bag.
I'm hoping that all this talk on 24/7 about carrying Marquez's 'lightweight handspeed' up to welterweight is not just that. If Marquez is as slow as he was against Mayweather he's giving himself a very small chance. Then again, he did manage to hit Mayweather on the counter at times, which was very impressive, considering he was the much smaller, slower man, and has much more rigid footwork (plus the fact Mayweather is easily the most elusive man in the sport currently). Manny's lateral movement has improved since the last time they fought, BUT I have a feeling Pac will be drawn into a shootout, which gives Marquez the chance to outbox him the way he did during the first two fights. If he can draw Pac into a war and counter him, and stay on his feet, only the most horrific robbery could take the fight from him, because in boxing terms they are nowhere near being equals. My main concern is that JMM is gonna be slow and bloated at welterweight and Manny will just hit him coming in and out all night - which is of course, also, Roach's biggest hope, and he's rarely wrong when it comes to judging whether a fighter will be effective in certain circumstances. Praying I'm wrong though, would love nothing more than to see Marquez finally get the win he deserves against Pac.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossOr Mayweather and Katsidis.Quote:
Originally Posted by 15rounder
Out of Marquez and Pacquiao, it will be Pacquiao whos age will effect him more because he doesnt have the skills that can carry Marquez amongst the sports best at 38. If he suddenly slows down a little, Marquez WILL take advantage. Look at his last few opponents, none of them have the skill to counter speed, so we wouldnt have seen the evidence of him slowing down if he has. He may just get a shock suddenly up against a man who has an answer for everything he does and doesnt just want to touch gloves all night, or put up the ear muff defence or be a walking punch bag.
Does this mean that you'll give Pacquiao credit after he beats Marquez?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossOr Mayweather and Katsidis.Quote:
Originally Posted by 15rounder
Out of Marquez and Pacquiao, it will be Pacquiao whos age will effect him more because he doesnt have the skills that can carry Marquez amongst the sports best at 38. If he suddenly slows down a little, Marquez WILL take advantage. Look at his last few opponents, none of them have the skill to counter speed, so we wouldnt have seen the evidence of him slowing down if he has. He may just get a shock suddenly up against a man who has an answer for everything he does and doesnt just want to touch gloves all night, or put up the ear muff defence or be a walking punch bag.
Why wouldnt I?Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerDoes this mean that you'll give Pacquiao credit after he beats Marquez?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossOr Mayweather and Katsidis.Quote:
Originally Posted by 15rounder
Out of Marquez and Pacquiao, it will be Pacquiao whos age will effect him more because he doesnt have the skills that can carry Marquez amongst the sports best at 38. If he suddenly slows down a little, Marquez WILL take advantage. Look at his last few opponents, none of them have the skill to counter speed, so we wouldnt have seen the evidence of him slowing down if he has. He may just get a shock suddenly up against a man who has an answer for everything he does and doesnt just want to touch gloves all night, or put up the ear muff defence or be a walking punch bag.
Are you a pinoy because that sounds like the shite they come out with. As if everyones against the Phillipines if someone so much as criticises a boxer! Iv pointed out that Mannys last few opponents were there to be hit and arent known for their boxing skill.
Manny is a much better and smarter fighter now. Wasn't his last opponent Mosely? Correct me if I'm wrong but if anyone can counter someone its mosely. He caught Mayweather a few times. I think Manny is just about the only man who didn't get rocked by Mosely, and put mosely on his behind in the same fight. Well, almost the only one. All this talk about JMM MAYBE winning is hope. About as much hope as Ortiz had against Mayweather. No way Manny loses this fight. I'm a little tired of JMM whining all the time about those two fights. Stay on your feet and off your butt and you wouldn't have anything to worry about. Please pac, shut him up. Its getting sad.
I'm just curious as to how you stand based on your comment above and your answer appears consistent with your comment. Because there are probably those who would give JMM a chance but would not give Manny credit no matter how he wins the fight. For those who thinks that JMM has no chance at all of winning, then it is understandable for them not to give the Pacman any credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhy wouldnt I?Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerDoes this mean that you'll give Pacquiao credit after he beats Marquez?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossOr Mayweather and Katsidis.Quote:
Originally Posted by 15rounder
Out of Marquez and Pacquiao, it will be Pacquiao whos age will effect him more because he doesnt have the skills that can carry Marquez amongst the sports best at 38. If he suddenly slows down a little, Marquez WILL take advantage. Look at his last few opponents, none of them have the skill to counter speed, so we wouldnt have seen the evidence of him slowing down if he has. He may just get a shock suddenly up against a man who has an answer for everything he does and doesnt just want to touch gloves all night, or put up the ear muff defence or be a walking punch bag.
Are you a pinoy because that sounds like the shite they come out with. As if everyones against the Phillipines if someone so much as criticises a boxer! Iv pointed out that Mannys last few opponents were there to be hit and arent known for their boxing skill.
My opinion is that JMM has a chance in this fight no matter how slim it may be. This is boxing and anything can happen.
With regards to the topic of this thread, I believe that's just a publicity ploy by Floyd. In the unlikely event of a Pacquiao loss, nobody can say that Mayweather avoided him because he already HINTED on the fight prior to the loss. But Floyd already hinted on their fight in his press conference for the Ortiz fight just to deny it some time later (both caught on video). Both of them signing a contract is not even a guarantee that they will fight. I would only believe that when both of them steps in the ring.
A Mike Tyson dick rider and a Pacquiao dick rider arguing. 2 types of shit head groups that really doesn't know a thing about the sport.
Coming from a prick with a picture a Shah Khan!Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Iv competed, have you you?
What a horrid generalization to make, GB. You are usually better than that.
Generalizations tend to have some truth to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Meh, anyone can claim whatever they want on the internet. You know like someone here famously claiming that he can beat 1 of the top boxers in the world because he swims a little and boxes a little and has some height and weight advantage. For all I know the only "competing" you've done was playing Fight Night Round 4 as Mike Tyson on the Playstation.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossComing from a prick with a picture a Shah Khan!Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Iv competed, have you you?
18 fights amateur from 97 to 2000 wan 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogGeneralizations tend to have some truth to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Meh, anyone can claim whatever they want on the internet. You know like someone here famously claiming that he can beat 1 of the top boxers in the world because he swims a little and boxes a little and has some height and weight advantage. For all I know the only "competing" you've done was playing Fight Night Round 4 as Mike Tyson on the Playstation.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossComing from a prick with a picture a Shah Khan!Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Iv competed, have you you?
Why don't you present your argument that invalidates our opinion instead of just coming out with some dickhead comments? Miles is right, you are usually better than that. Are you drunk or on drugs, or did your brain shrink due to inactivity?Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Roy Jones Jr.
"In boxing, you can't just concede to your opponent's demands, because that's like losing the first round of the fight". Conceding to your opponent's demands is losing the mental aspects.
That's why Pacman said he'd take the Boxing anti-doping drug tests, not under Fairweather's terms.
Mayweather also wanted Pacman to agree to not practice outside of the United States....
WTF!!!!
either fight or just stop talking about it
nice post chris. I think that video says it all
When I see it with my own eyes then I will beleive it, this has gone on for 3 years.