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As Ali called it, a Documentary on the final fight between Frazier and Ali is going to be shown on HBOwHD starting @ 9:30 PM EDT, or about 15 minutes from now. Great Doc if you havn't seen it, I believe this fight started the ruin of each man's health and took what remained of their youth.. Pretty fucking sad.. :-X
Both fighters should've retired after this fight, it was 100 degrees and 95% humidity and Ali couldn't stand up to have his hand raised in victory, doing the post fight interview from a stool in the middle of the ring. Joe never recovered. He fought again in 1976 and big George really finished him off.
Saw this live... fight was inside a cauldron, the Araneta Coliseum, somewhere in the heart of Cubao, Quezon City, 36 years ago! Scalded me with boxing for life!
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Originally Posted by KananKrus
Wow! you got to see a piece of boxing history, and/or one of the greatest HW fights ever.
This documentary "Thrilla in Manila" put the focus on Frazier rather then Ali, it was really a documentary about Joe. This was done about 4 years ago when Frazier was 63, it was a good thing they did it since Joe just recently passed away, he got to tell his side of things. Anyway, excellent Documentary.
yep, its strange I seen this fight just once in full in late 80s and couldn't believe what I was watching.
But its not a fight I have wished to see again if you know what I mean :-\
Here's part 1 of that Documentary: you can get the rest on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANLS0tn14M
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Check out the Documentary on Youtube Mark, it's in 9 parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANLS0tn14M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANLS0tn14M
The thing that got me on this doc was when they showed Frazier the fight.
After about 30 seconds Joe says to himself "Too far away Smoke."
A thinking fighter in a way I hadn't thought about before.
That was truly a brutal fight in hostile conditions by 2 fighters that would not give each other an inch. They left whatever they had left in that ring, absolutely amazing fight.
Yup, and Frazier said it was the first time he'd seen the fight, the reason likely being, that it probably wasn't a very pleasant memory for him. In my mind, this Doc is the best ever done about a boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleheadmaui
P.S. I wanted to bitch slap that douche Ferdie Pacheco and kick his teeth in for calling Frazier "dumb", the pretentious, condescending, asshole.
It's amazing the amount of energy hatred can produce, Joe said at the end that he was fighting on instinct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Good documentary.
It really shows Ali up for being the nasty bastard that he is/was and also shows up the media for showboating people who are really quite despicable and ignoring others who are really so much better as genuine human beings.
Ali was always a cunt, I have always been fairly convinced of that.
Miles you are a cunt, you show no respect for the dead never mind the living! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
But at least I am not a segregation advocating racist nutjob. Ali has always been a nasty piece of work and Frazier has always been given the wrong end of the stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMiles you are a cunt, you show no respect for the dead never mind the living! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Those are the facts.
Ali apologised for that nonsense about the space ship coming to save the black people. Ali went way too far with the abuse against Frazier. Other than that he was a legend. :)
Ali as a person was a piece of shit. The racist dribble that spewed out of his mouth was ridiculous and the fact that people actually bought into it was even worse. He was middle class citizen who was spoiled little brat and then dropped out of high school and was groomed from a young age to become an olympic champion. Frazier on the other hand was poorer than poor a working class,blue collar person through to his core. It just showed us how stupid we are as people when we cheer for a person who can bad mouth a hard working individual like Joe Frazier and cheer for a rope bender like Ali but let us not forget that Ali can take a punch. Ridciulous. Sorry got off the beaten path,but this is the documentary in hindsight if you haven't seen it. lol.