Manny Pacquiao versus Juan Manuel Marquez weigh-In - ESPN
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Still watching it. Does Marquez look a little more bulked up than usual?
Pac 143
JMM 142
I will post up some pics when i can.
Here's the stare down between Bradley & casamayor. Casamayor was 1 lb over and has 2 hours to drop the 1 lb, should be easy enough though.
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I hope Casa wins
If Casamayor can't pull it off i'd like Brandon Rios to be the one to do it, they should fight next :)
Bradley will not have an easy time in this fight. He should win the fight. But him losing is not completely out of the questionQuote:
Originally Posted by Tito BHB
I hope Casa pulls the upset. He took Kat's undefeated record and another victory over Bradley would be such a feel good story.
Bradley has been inactive for nearly an year now and he could get caught rusty.
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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
casamayor got a gift win over Santa Cruz in 07. He went life and death with Katsidis. Marquez KO'd him. He won over a journeyman. He took an absolute beating from Guererro. And for most of that fight his legs looked bad. Then he wins a close decision over a journeyman.
He is very close to done, if not done.
Marquez has been weighing 145 pounds when he walks into the ring for all of his lightweight fights. So he weighs in around 133.5-135 after really cutting all fat and dehydrating, and then he rehydrates to 145 after eating and drinking normally for 24 hours.
He will probably weigh around 148 tomorrow night. 2-3 pounds of additional muscle. Not alot. It isn't as if his fighting weight will have changed by much.
I get irritated every time someone says Pac is a full fledged welterweight. No, he isn't. He is beating welterweights.
When Pac fought Marquez the 2nd time, with weigh in of 130, he weighed 145 when he got in there to fight. His fights with weigh in of 147, he weighs around 147-149 in the ring.
He went up a massive 4 pounds. He just stopped dehydrating himself and got to eat fully.
He is a little guy who actually weighs around the weight limit in the ring where every guy he faces makes weight and ballons up to the upper 150s.
He fights at Welter, he is a Welter, pretty simple really.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
Of course. It's a mute point all this 'if he didn't eat a millions calories a day he would be 138' nonsense. The fight is at WW for a reason, Manny is a WW.Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeHHe fights at Welter, he is a Welter, pretty simple really.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
People that are saying there is a big size disparity here are simply wrong. Likewise, it is futile for people to call for the fight being at 140. They weighed in one pound apart and both under the welterweight limit by 4 and 5 pounds. Marquez looked ripped too! Not pudgy like he did against Floyd. I just don't buy that Marquez is going to give up in this one. This is going to be a scrap for however long it lasts.
Naw i'd say Pac is a full welter, He can spark a dood at welter, he can take a punch at welter, he's been there for time and is comfortable taking all challengers at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
It doesn't make it less impressive that he moved up so far but people grow as they age.
now saying that Pac is a full on junior middle would be a different story, just like how they were reluctant to take on guys at 154 with a big height advantage.. i'd say his frame/arm length etc is welterweight maximum, thats where his comfort zone ends
Ive found Casa performs better when he's properly motivated, theres some pre fight venom there between joel and bradley ( cause admittedly bradley is a douche :cool: ) all this head shoving and tension at the pressers and weigh in.. and coming off some losses he wishes he didnt take..Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseBradley will not have an easy time in this fight. He should win the fight. But him losing is not completely out of the questionQuote:
Originally Posted by Tito BHB
I seem to remember some pre fight tension before the Katsidis fight..
Guerrero is more of a boxer type than bradley, Bradley seems to me to be a fit busy puncher style but doesnt pack a big punch
Pacquiao is a welterweight like Sergio Martinez is a middleweight or Miguel Cotto is a junior middleweight in that all three are small for their weight classes, but are talented enough to dominate them. For example, Tim Bradley is closer to Manny Pacquiao's size than say Mike Jones and James Kirkland is closer to Sergio Martinez's size than say Peter Quillin, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't favor Paquiao or Martinez against Jones or Quillin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tito BHBNaw i'd say Pac is a full welter, He can spark a dood at welter, he can take a punch at welter, he's been there for time and is comfortable taking all challengers at the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew
It doesn't make it less impressive that he moved up so far but people grow as they age.
now saying that Pac is a full on junior middle would be a different story, just like how they were reluctant to take on guys at 154 with a big height advantage.. i'd say his frame/arm length etc is welterweight maximum, thats where his comfort zone ends
Right on partner..Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
'Moot'... :) :p ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milesOf course. It's a mute point all this 'if he didn't eat a millions calories a day he would be 138' nonsense. The fight is at WW for a reason, Manny is a WW.Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeHHe fights at Welter, he is a Welter, pretty simple really.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddew