That is perhaps the Biggest robbery I've ever seen!

Bob Arum has paid a lot of money to keep the Mayweather fight alive tonight. The fight only showed me one thing though and that is that Pacquiao struggles with good Counter punchers and Mayweather is perhaps the best ever counter puncher. The steroid using little freak will get chewed up by Floyd.

I feel really sorry for Marquez tonight because the other 2 fights were at least somewhat competitive so the bad decisions could be excused to a certain extent, this was completely one sided and anyone with an ounce of knowledge of Boxing knows that!

Pacquiao and his team are the biggest set of cheating bastards in boxing today! The dictionary should describe the word cheating by simply printing the words "SEE TEAM PACQUIAO"

A horrible, horrible decision. Even my wife who knows nothing about boxing thought it was a poor decision. People who actually know boxing are physically pulling their hair out and frothing at the mouth. And rightly so.

Disgusting, shocking, disgraceful decision.

I hope this gives Manny nightmares for years to come. Marquez can now get a tshirt with '3 wins over Manny' emblazoned across it.

Total legend and an awful way for him to be completed disrespected. It would be a real shame if this is how it ends for Marquez. He has given boxing so much and to be screwed like this again must be a bitter pill to swallow.

It was so much clearer than the last fight. In every fight it is Marquez who has shown something extra and all of Manny's so called 'improvements' are really a big facade.

Finally faced with a smart counter puncher who wasn't afraid Manny couldn't do shit.

A little bit of hyperbole?

See Whitaker-Chavez. Nothing tops that. I had Chavez losing almost every round.

And Whitaker-Ramirez 1 where Sweet pea loses his undefeated record.

I had it 8-4 to Marquez.

116-112 to Pacquiao is absolutely criminal and I really think judges need to be held to account for these kinds of decisions.

How on earth can this score have been calculated? It is almost as if the numbers have been pulled out of a hat. It wasn't a particularly hard fight to score and to end up with 8 rounds to Manny is borderline insane.

Glenn Trowbridge should be forced to go a round with Marquez for his sins.

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I had it 8-4 to Marquez.

116-112 to Pacquiao is absolutely criminal and I really think judges need to be held to account for these kinds of decisions.

How on earth can this score have been calculated? It is almost as if the numbers have been pulled out of a hat. It wasn't a particularly hard fight to score and to end up with 8 rounds to Manny is borderline insane.

Glenn Trowbridge should be forced to go a round with Marquez for his sins.

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Old Harold's scorecard was good for a laugh wasn't it ? He had it 116-112 Pacqauio as well.

God bless him and I hope he gets better from his cancer, but the man is such a terrible terrible judge, always goes for the house fighter for HBO.

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I had it 8-4 to Marquez.

116-112 to Pacquiao is absolutely criminal and I really think judges need to be held to account for these kinds of decisions.

How on earth can this score have been calculated? It is almost as if the numbers have been pulled out of a hat. It wasn't a particularly hard fight to score and to end up with 8 rounds to Manny is borderline insane.

Glenn Trowbridge should be forced to go a round with Marquez for his sins.

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Old Harold's scorecard was good for a laugh wasn't it ? He had it 116-112 Pacqauio as well.

God bless him and I hope he gets better from his cancer, but the man is such a terrible terrible judge, always goes for the house fighter for HBO.

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Dudes completely senile, I've seen him give some WEIRD rounds in the past. He scored the first 2 or 3 rounds of Mayweather vs Jesus Chavez for Chavez purely because he was walking forward and windmilling..didn't matter that he was getting laced with laser right hands walking in. He's an aggression junkie.

I think it was after the 10th that Kellerman said, "I wouldn't be surprised if at least one judge had it the other way round, Marquez winning" - Kellerman needs to be there to even out the stupidity sometimes.

I had it 9 rounds to 3 for Marquez. Currently trying to move house and complain, it is not easy lol

Guys, I'm in no way saying manny should've won that fight since I got him trailing 7 rounds to 5. But we can't just go on blaming manny for the decision. It wasn't his call. I seriously think if he lost the bout he would've accepted it since by the tone of his voice during the interviews he's been getting in Philippine TV it's obvious he's not that happy/confident about his "victory" either.

That's a bold statement:

"The biggest robbery I've EVER seen"

Because I've seen some shockers over the years.

i just wish they were both 35 years old

and also that pacquiao liked blood tests

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That's a bold statement:

"The biggest robbery I've EVER seen"

Because I've seen some shockers over the years.

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I've seen some too but this may be the biggest live one I've seen and the one with. The biggest profile fuck the judges best case for pac is he won four rounds

If Manny was the model of decency and sportsmanship he is portrayed as he wouldn't have said he "clearly won". I've lost some respect for him but at the same time can understand why he wouldn't say he lost. But he knows he lost.

What sickens me most is that a legend of the sport has been absolutely shít on tonight. No respect. Gutted for Marquez.
This must go down in boxing history as the worst decision ever i was also surprised Manny said he thought he won the fight he should retire ,on tonights showing mayweather or khan would walk over him

Shame on ARUM and the corrupt WBO judges

At the final bell look at Manny he knew for a fact he had lost this one. Marquez celebrated and so did the crowd because we had just witnessed Manny Pacquiao lose by a long shot the guy who wasn't suppose to win won tonight. Marquez was outstanding and there is no way he lost that fight, I feel bad for Marquez. He really did prove tonight that he was better than Manny Pacquiao. Styles make fights, and Marquez has Mannys number as proved tonight.

he wasn't any model, a model doesn't refuse tests and doesnt fight only pensioners, and doesnt win close decisions to any pensioner while his prime, and at least takes the best rated pensioner out there, who is martinez

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he wasn't any model, a model doesn't refuse tests and doesnt fight only pensioners, and doesnt win close decisions to any pensioner while his prime, and at least takes the best rated pensioner out there, who is martinez

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Now that's just outright wrong. I know marquez got robbed here but belittling marquez by saying he's a pensioner (no idea who the other "pensioners" are) doesn't do any good to the sport. I know you don't like manny but there's just so many contradictions in your post it's weird. Martinez being a pensioner too? I mean.. wtf bro. What's up with the hate on pensioners?

Now i'm confused as to what a "model" is to you. Certainly it's not a pensioner. No model pensioners for you eh?

its the biggest one for me ive seen live, martinez kod and schooled cintron but that wasnt as big a stage and well he got a draw at least out of it...so yeah this biggest robbery i seen live

i don't agree with considering it like a switch, everyone thinks that boxers are either in their prime or out of them, i think the process of age and wear and tear are more gradual than suddenly being out or in his prime, from the way of beating anyone to the point of having the capacity to lose to nobodies repeatedly, for every boxer. I just think that marquez trained very well this time but this doesn't prove he is in his prime, this means that if he had trained like this in the past he would had beaten pacquiao, this means that for me marquez has more merit than pacquiao in this fight no matter if he was robbed or not.

And about martinez, he is like 37, you might think that he is at the best moment but i dont buy that, i think that the only fact that he has that age means he is probably diminished compared to when he was 28, no matter if he didnt lose vs barker but you forget what happened to mosley? They always said that he was at his best vs margarito and he wasnt

To summarize, a pensioner isn't a pensioner only when he loses a lot, but gradually,and i mean gradually he becomes one with age, wear and tear, and if he doesnt lose even when he is a pensioner, he has an enormous merit, like marquez at 38, so all my admiration is for marquez and nothing for pacquiao in the last fight

It was a criminal act by top rank and the judges.

This robbery was one of thw worst of the decade along with casa-santa cruz..

If everyone can just stop hyperventilating for a moment and take a deep breath, calm down and realistically assess the fight. It was not a robbery, it was a close fight that went Pacquaio's way. I had it 115-113 for Pacman, it could easily have been the other way round for me as i gave two very close rounds to Pacman and it was a flip of the coin. I expected Marquez to actually get the decision, but was not surprised when it went Pacquaio as i had him winning anyway. Why the vitriol towards Pacman? This was no Whitaker V Chavez decision or a DLH V Trinidad decision. It was a close call and Pacquaio won, let them do it again in May if they want too. For some bizarre reason the Manny Pacquaio of the past 3 years didn't turn up for this fight? That's my only criticisim.

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If everyone can just stop hyperventilating for a moment and take a deep breath, calm down and realistically assess the fight. It was not a robbery, it was a close fight that went Pacquaio's way. I had it 115-113 for Pacman, it could easily have been the other way round for me as i gave two very close rounds to Pacman and it was a flip of the coin. I expected Marquez to actually get the decision, but was not surprised when it went Pacquaio as i had him winning anyway. Why the vitriol towards Pacman? This was no Whitaker V Chavez decision or a DLH V Trinidad decision. It was a close call and Pacquaio won, let them do it again in May if they want too. For some bizarre reason the Manny Pacquaio of the past 3 years didn't turn up for this fight? That's my only criticisim.

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I had JMM winning it 115-113, but I wasn't surprised Pac took it. And of course like I've said on page 1, whitaker-chavez now that was a robbery. I think the Vitriol against Pac came with a lot of people wanted JMM to win, and many people felt he was "robbed" in the last 2 fights, then factor in JMM as a sentimental favorite, factor in Pac's many idiotic fans, then factor in a close fight, then you have a robbery outcry.

I've noticed something, the people calling it a robbery and blasting Pac were the same people that blasted him before this fight. Coincidence? I think not.

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It was a criminal act by top rank and the judges.

This robbery was one of thw worst of the decade along with casa-santa cruz..

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I admire the post just because you didnt trow all the blames on pacman.
Im a pac fan, and i truly believe he lost the fight to marquez. Its hard to accept at first, but in my view, I see him loosing to marquez by 2-3 points, and in my view, it was a clear marquez victory. But then again, it was -- in my perspective, coming from my vantage point in from of the TV and from the camera's and replays of HBO.

Pacman was loved because he fought gallantly every fight. With this, i dont think he should be hated from head to foot simply because 2 judges thought he won the fight vs marquez. You can play around with ideas of bribes, corruption, NSAC thinking about the economic factor of pac-money fight, or considering the market value of pac and marquez, or whatever else is out there.... But keep in mind to appreciate 2 brave men who fought a clean fight, although the ending stinks like the rotten fish.

I feel for marquez. Clearly he was the winner. He will be remembered as the man who beat a prime pacman.
for pacman, i cant blame him for the scores by the judges. It wasnt his fault. But i think he could have done better on the ring.

As for the conclusion, it sucks.
I wish they will fight again. These two men defines what it is to become a fighter.
I just hope we get the better judges next time.

Pacman won the fight on the record.
Marquez won the hearts of many.
Boxing fan lost again, and again...

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If everyone can just stop hyperventilating for a moment and take a deep breath, calm down and realistically assess the fight. It was not a robbery, it was a close fight that went Pacquaio's way. I had it 115-113 for Pacman, it could easily have been the other way round for me as i gave two very close rounds to Pacman and it was a flip of the coin. I expected Marquez to actually get the decision, but was not surprised when it went Pacquaio as i had him winning anyway. Why the vitriol towards Pacman? This was no Whitaker V Chavez decision or a DLH V Trinidad decision. It was a close call and Pacquaio won, let them do it again in May if they want too. For some bizarre reason the Manny Pacquaio of the past 3 years didn't turn up for this fight? That's my only criticisim.

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I had JMM winning it 115-113, but I wasn't surprised Pac took it. And of course like I've said on page 1, whitaker-chavez now that was a robbery. I think the Vitriol against Pac came with a lot of people wanted JMM to win, and many people felt he was "robbed" in the last 2 fights, then factor in JMM as a sentimental favorite, factor in Pac's many idiotic fans, then factor in a close fight, then you have a robbery outcry.

I've noticed something, the people calling it a robbery and blasting Pac were the same people that blasted him before this fight. Coincidence? I think not.

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Pacman has many detractors on here, he has taken out everyone's favourite fighter of the past 10 years and this pisses people off. Marquez has been unlucky that's all, robbed no. I think he fought his best fight since the last loss to Pacquaio in 2008, perhaps he just saves himself up for the Pacman? At the end of the day you have to take the title away from the champion and Marquez just failed to do that. It was close and maybe they should go at it again, PBF is still stalling waiting for Pacman to get old, well i think that is beginning to happen.