R.I.P. boxing 1867-2011

So, when will the idiots in charge of the sport (and God knows who that actually is) realise that what they are doing is going to kill boxing, and by extension their cash cow?

Please add to my list of events in 2011, which is just off the top of my head (and all from major fights!!!), of decisions that are ultimately going to stop fans from giving a shit (or PPV money) again:

Russell Mora's refereeing in the Bantamweight tournament final.
V. Klitschko beating an out-of-shape Solis by injury in round one.
W. Klitschko beating David Haye over twelve dull rounds.
Zab Judah quitting against Amir Khan.
The Paul McCloskey v Khan stoppage.
The Dawson v Hopkins fight.
And of course Pacquiao v Marquez.

Of course, this is all ready on top of the two best fighters not fighting each other, the alphabet boys, the W.B.A. having multiple champions at the same weight, the W.B.C. Diamond belt and all the other shit..

dont forget Mayweather - Ortiz ;)

Boxing has been this way forever. Nothing is going to change, certainly not when there are suckers like us to make money off of.

This is why our sport is regarded as a joke outside of the hardcore circle. It's such a turnoff to see things like this and it happens way too often. It drives people away.

Gonna add the donaire narvaez fight up in the mix there. Yeah, been a terrible year for boxing. Here's hoping cotto plasters margarito. No pun intended.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

dont forget Mayweather - Ortiz ;)

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I knew I'd missed a glaring one somewhere.

I know that boxing has always been like this, but I don't remember it happening this often (it's been almost all the big fights!).

You should add the Williams/Lara and Sturm/Macklin decisions to the list.

And also all the PED insults and accusations thrown around nowadays.

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

dont forget Mayweather - Ortiz ;)

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I knew I'd missed a glaring one somewhere.

I know that boxing has always been like this, but I don't remember it happening this often (it's been almost all the big fights!).

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yeah boxing always been corrupt but seems like this year the shit went the wrong way more often than not but this one was just sickenin!!!

there have been a few dodgy decisions at british level too

smith simpson, that commonwealth light middleweight fight (cant remember the fellas name), dallas v page

thing is you get some dodgy ones and i cant understand why they have made it that way

smith simpson for example, why give it smith twice even? simpson was on the verge of a world title and was robbed by smith on both occasions, clearly won both fights

i cant see how a smith win helped anyone in any way appart from smith

I'm getting pig sick of these decisions. One day I will just walk away.

We cannot keep getting screwed all the time. It's just not right.

Shit refs like Joe Cortez and that fucker Dave Parris are also ruining boxing.

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Shit refs like Joe Cortez and that fucker Dave Parris are also ruining boxing.

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Yes, poor refs and poor judges. Boxing needs to get rid of the dinosaurs.

I believe it's getting worse with giant sums of money at stake in the casinos and more corporate propaganda fueling fights. The high profile fights like never rigged to this extent in the recent Leonard/Hearns/Haggler/Duran era.

People say that boxing is dying because of the recent pimping of glamorized MMA/UFC, but in days past I could never see how the sweet science could be lost to a recent cagefighting fad... then I remember how boxing is killing itself with a ridiculous host of governing bodies and corporate fraud and aggrandizement. Pity for such a beautiful and honed sport to be lost to greed.

Hello seddonians. It's been a while but I had to voice my opinion on this one. What a f**king joke last night was.lol. That's all.

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I believe it's getting worse with giant sums of money at stake in the casinos and more corporate propaganda fueling fights. The high profile fights like never rigged to this extent in the recent Leonard/Hearns/Haggler/Duran era.

People say that boxing is dying because of the recent pimping of glamorized MMA/UFC, but in days past I could never see how the sweet science could be lost to a recent cagefighting fad... then I remember how boxing is killing itself with a ridiculous host of governing bodies and corporate fraud and aggrandizement. Pity for such a beautiful and honed sport to be lost to greed.

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The sport hasn't been honed enough with regards to the way judges score rounds. Same scenario with MMA (though I think MMAs still have it worst with their judging system, but you can't blame them since they're still an "infant combat sport" compared to boxing). It's a system that's old and haven't yet caught up with the modern times.

Applause to changes they've made with regards to taking into account replays when it comes to fight ending fouls etc. but the judging is still too subjective and the system so flawed that irresponsible judges gets away with poor calls without any infractions. Politics still play an important role in the way decisions are made and I know I'm being a bit paranoid here when saying that the reason why dramatic changes in the system still haven't been made because "the powers that be" won't allow them to be implemented in the first place.

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I believe it's getting worse with giant sums of money at stake in the casinos and more corporate propaganda fueling fights. The high profile fights like never rigged to this extent in the recent Leonard/Hearns/Haggler/Duran era.

People say that boxing is dying because of the recent pimping of glamorized MMA/UFC, but in days past I could never see how the sweet science could be lost to a recent cagefighting fad... then I remember how boxing is killing itself with a ridiculous host of governing bodies and corporate fraud and aggrandizement. Pity for such a beautiful and honed sport to be lost to greed.

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The sport hasn't been honed enough with regards to the way judges score rounds. Same scenario with MMA (though I think MMAs still have it worst with their judging system, but you can't blame them since they're still an "infant combat sport" compared to boxing). It's a system that's old and haven't yet caught up with the modern times.

Applause to changes they've made with regards to taking into account replays when it comes to fight ending fouls but the judging is still too subjective and the system so flawed that irresponsible judges gets away with poor calls without any infractions. Politics still play an important role in the way decisions are made and I know I'm being a bit paranoid here when saying that the reason why dramatic changes in the system still haven't been made because "the powers that be" won't allow them to be implemented in the first place.

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Oh the judging and governance of the sport is far from honed or modern - it's pretty much stone age (and I agree with your stated reasoning - "the powers that be"). The honed side is a system of fighting within a ring, utilizing age-old training methods and techniques designed for this specific (and ever-evolving) sport. It is second to no other sport in a historical richness that not only encompasses the greatest sportsman of all time but extends all the way back to the ancient Greeks. That is what is being lost to corporate greed.

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I believe it's getting worse with giant sums of money at stake in the casinos and more corporate propaganda fueling fights. The high profile fights like never rigged to this extent in the recent Leonard/Hearns/Haggler/Duran era.

People say that boxing is dying because of the recent pimping of glamorized MMA/UFC, but in days past I could never see how the sweet science could be lost to a recent cagefighting fad... then I remember how boxing is killing itself with a ridiculous host of governing bodies and corporate fraud and aggrandizement. Pity for such a beautiful and honed sport to be lost to greed.

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The sport hasn't been honed enough with regards to the way judges score rounds. Same scenario with MMA (though I think MMAs still have it worst with their judging system, but you can't blame them since they're still an "infant combat sport" compared to boxing). It's a system that's old and haven't yet caught up with the modern times.

Applause to changes they've made with regards to taking into account replays when it comes to fight ending fouls but the judging is still too subjective and the system so flawed that irresponsible judges gets away with poor calls without any infractions. Politics still play an important role in the way decisions are made and I know I'm being a bit paranoid here when saying that the reason why dramatic changes in the system still haven't been made because "the powers that be" won't allow them to be implemented in the first place.

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Oh the judging and governance of the sport is far from honed or modern - it's pretty much stone age (and I agree with your stated reasoning - "the powers that be"). The honed side is a system of fighting within a ring, utilizing age-old training methods and techniques designed for this specific (and ever-evolving) sport. It is second to no other sport in a historical richness that not only encompasses the greatest sportsman of all time but extends all the way back to the ancient Greeks. That is what is being lost to corporate greed.

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Definitely agree with you with the sport in its purest form being honed since its existence and couldn't agree more with boxing being lost to corporate greed. The sport (2 guys boxing in the ring) has definitely evolved through the years, it's just that the outside factors that influence the all important decisions haven't really changed much and their outmoded system is achingly prone to errors.