So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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11-13-2011, 02:59 PM
Beanflicker

So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

So lets get this out of the way, I know "Boxing Math" (A>B, B>C, so therefore A<C) is a rediculous and faulty way to predict a fight. I know that even though Floyd looked better against JMM than Pac did, Pac looked better against DLH and Hatton than Floyd did. That's not my point at all.

But styles make fights, and we've seen JMM 3 TIMES give Pacquiao absolute fits with his comparable speed and superior boxing IQ (for the record I believe Pac deserved the nod in the 2nd fight, but I feel JMM clearly won fight 1 and 3).

With all due respect to JMM, who after this fight I believe has a STRONG case for best Mexican fighter of all time, Floyd not only has the same attributes that JMM used to befuddle Pac 3 times, he is by far SUPERIOR in each of those catagories. Floyd is bigger and faster, has better defense, has a higher boxing IQ, shows an uncanny ability to adjust and adapt to an opponent as the rounds go on, ect (and for those who say Floyd has no heart or chin, you don't know what you're talking about).

So after watching Pac made to look silly by JMM once again, how many of you can say, with confidence, that you still pick Pac to beat Floyd, who is essentially a bigger, faster, more skilled version of JMM?
11-13-2011, 03:00 PM
El Kabong

....Me

Styles make fights
11-13-2011, 03:04 PM
Beanflicker

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

They sure do, but why is JMM's slick counterpunching style so much better than Floyd's slick counterpunching style?
11-13-2011, 04:26 PM
El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

They sure do, but why is JMM's slick counterpunching style so much better than Floyd's slick counterpunching style?

Floyd doesn't have JMM's chin.
11-13-2011, 04:30 PM
captainanddew

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

They sure do, but why is JMM's slick counterpunching style so much better than Floyd's slick counterpunching style?

Floyd doesn't have JMM's chin.

Floyd's chin is better than Marquez.
11-13-2011, 04:31 PM
Mar

It's not what happens in the ring that matters when it comes to these guys If u like manny then you hate Floyd and think pac wins . If you're a floyd fan you think he invented boxing and ten manny's couldn't beat him blah blah , there are decent arguments on each side imo . I've always said manny may be a better fighter but floyd is by far a better boxer and would probably disappoint a lot of people take almost no chances and weasel his way past manny pretty easy .
11-13-2011, 04:40 PM
imp

A win is a win. Floyd has the best chin in boxing
11-13-2011, 04:53 PM
Beanflicker

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

They sure do, but why is JMM's slick counterpunching style so much better than Floyd's slick counterpunching style?

Floyd doesn't have JMM's chin.

JMM has been dropped a lot more than Floyd has.
11-13-2011, 04:57 PM
gest12645

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

Styles make fights. But Floyd is a great counter puncher also. So Floyd's style isn't good for Manny also. It would be a close fight, with Mayweather having an edge at the end of it
11-13-2011, 04:58 PM
Taffturner

Floyd only has the best chin in boxing cos hes too good/slick for anyone to land a big punch on it!!! Floyds easily the best boxer skill wise around, hes a defensive master and adapts to beat whoever/watever styles infront of him, the big question for me is is floyd slick enough to get out of the way of pacs furious/relentless attacks?!

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Originally Posted by imp

A win is a win. Floyd has the best chin in boxing
11-13-2011, 05:00 PM
captainanddew

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by gest12645

Styles make fights. But Floyd is a great counter puncher also. So Floyd's style isn't good for Manny also. It would be a close fight, with Mayweather having an edge at the end of it

Floyd is a better counter puncher than Marquez.
11-13-2011, 05:03 PM
DatsiK

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Floyd doesn't have JMM's chin.

Are you some kind of idiot?

Floyd has never been dropped (let's not get into the Zab fight for now). How many times has JMM been dropped?
11-13-2011, 05:11 PM
Howlin Mad Missy

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

I picked floyd before the fight and I'm still saying it. On that performance I can't see roach wanting it - maybe chase a fourth with JMM and say pac had on off night. Marquez should tell them to jump.
11-13-2011, 05:15 PM
El Kabong

Floyd got the shit rocked out of him a couple times, had he ever been caught flush like JMM has then he wouldn't get up.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I picked floyd before the fight and I'm still saying it. On that performance I can't see roach wanting it - maybe chase a fourth with JMM and say pac had on off night. Marquez should tell them to jump.

I still pick Diane over Missy
11-13-2011, 05:17 PM
Howlin Mad Missy

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Floyd got the shit rocked out of him a couple times, had he ever been caught flush like JMM has then he wouldn't get up.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I picked floyd before the fight and I'm still saying it. On that performance I can't see roach wanting it - maybe chase a fourth with JMM and say pac had on off night. Marquez should tell them to jump.

I still pick Diane over Missy

Neither of us would pick you
11-13-2011, 05:25 PM
killersheep

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Floyd got the shit rocked out of him a couple times, had he ever been caught flush like JMM has then he wouldn't get up.

I recall once against Mosley that he "got the shit rocked out of him" and he was back in total control less than 10 seconds later. Maybe you can tell me when the other times were that "he got the shit rocked out of him".
11-13-2011, 05:33 PM
Mark TKO

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

Have changed my mind so many times over this one Floyd, Pac, Floyd, Pac

Now I am saying Floyd again - but STYLES MAKE FIGHTS !!! (has that line been used before ??)

Floyd would bring out the best in Manny

I don't want to see JMM - Pac IV either
11-13-2011, 05:41 PM
El Kabong

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

Floyd got the shit rocked out of him a couple times, had he ever been caught flush like JMM has then he wouldn't get up.

I recall once against Mosley that he "got the shit rocked out of him" and he was back in total control less than 10 seconds later. Maybe you can tell me when the other times were that "he got the shit rocked out of him".

How about when a southpaw with a weak chin (Zab Judah) hurt him? And all Zab has is a left cross, Pac has more.
11-13-2011, 05:42 PM
Saddo

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

I'm still picking Manny to beat Floyd.

Not sure what was wrong with Manny last night he looked like shit and seemed to be shit scared of being hit and totally lost that fight. (prob due to an early body shot scare)

the only good thing to come out of last night is after that piss poor performance Floyd will prob now want and make the fight happen.

but if the gunshy Manny that turned up at the office last night shows up then Floyd will take him apart and stop him.
11-13-2011, 06:44 PM
Rantcatrat

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

I believe Manny struggles with counter punchers. He would have a long night against Floyd. The odds would favor Floyd big time.
11-13-2011, 06:45 PM
Rantcatrat

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

Floyd must feel like an idiot now for refusing to fight Pacquiao without tests. Seriously. I don't even think they should fight now. I believe Floyd's only good opponent now is Martinez at 54. Any other fight is a gimme.
11-13-2011, 07:15 PM
:::PSL:::

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

I STILL DO. FUCK YEA, I STILL DO! :cool:

Floyd can counterpunch all night. But the fighter who produce more volume punches with higher connect rate, usually prevail.
11-13-2011, 07:21 PM
FinitoElDinamita

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

I STILL DO. FUCK YEA, I STILL DO! :cool:

Floyd can counterpunch all night. But the fighter who produce more volume punches with higher connect rate, usually prevail.

dj

Ur a pactard who suffers from boxing down syndrome
Im not surprised. Bum hanger-ons ..:D
11-13-2011, 07:23 PM
fan johnny

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

What is the point? They aren't going to fight anyway.
11-13-2011, 07:26 PM
CutMeMick

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by Saddo

I'm still picking Manny to beat Floyd.

Not sure what was wrong with Manny last night he looked like shit and seemed to be shit scared of being hit and totally lost that fight. (prob due to an early body shot scare)

the only good thing to come out of last night is after that piss poor performance Floyd will prob now want and make the fight happen.

but if the gunshy Manny that turned up at the office last night shows up then Floyd will take him apart and stop him.

Good post fella and very spot on...

I've changed my mind several times.
At 1st said Pac then I changed it to PBF then back to Pac.
Now I'm back to PBF.
11-13-2011, 07:31 PM
Andre

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

In this case, A beats B and C in similar fashion.
A being F ;D

You think B looked frustrated last night I dont think we saw anything in comparison to if A ever meets B.

C being J ;D
11-13-2011, 07:35 PM
DatsiK

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by Andre

In this case, A beats B and C in similar fashion.
A being F ;D

You think B looked frustrated last night I dont think we saw anything in comparison to if A ever meets B.

C being J ;D

Are you intentionally trying to confuse people with this post?
11-13-2011, 07:42 PM
CutMeMick

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by Andre

In this case, A beats B and C in similar fashion.
A being F ;D

You think B looked frustrated last night I dont think we saw anything in comparison to if A ever meets B.

C being J ;D

If you take -J x (K+L) m+n = P2 :-X
11-13-2011, 07:53 PM
Andre

Re: So how many are still picking Pac over Floyd?

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Originally Posted by DatsiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre

In this case, A beats B and C in similar fashion.
A being F ;D

You think B looked frustrated last night I dont think we saw anything in comparison to if A ever meets B.

C being J ;D

Are you intentionally trying to confuse people with this post?

Not at all its very simple ;D

#A is Floyd .. F

C is Juan .. J Respectively of course.

Therefore B has to be Manny ;D

You see; C has already fought A and B so the last sentence makes perfect sense.