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I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
yep its true, i thought pac won the fight
couple of rounds in fact
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
your too late mate, i think that :boat: has sailed
Oh, and your wrong anyway 8)
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
Matty is right.. You're too late Eric. Doesnt matter what anyone says at this point because people's minds are already made up.
Let's not beat on a dead horse. If you think Pac won, great, knock yourself out..
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
AWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CUMMONNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
it wasnt my fault i never watched it at the time
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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erics44
AWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CUMMONNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
it wasnt my fault i never watched it at the time
Go for it bruh, present your case.. Let's at least hear it.. :)
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
erics44
AWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CUMMONNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
it wasnt my fault i never watched it at the time
Go for it bruh, present your case.. Let's at least hear it.. :)
As you insist
It was an extremeky close fight, marquez landed the more eye catching punches and pac was pressing from start to finish
I think they did land a very similar amount of punches its just pacs pressing left him open a bit more and the punches he took caught they eye
A couple of rounds marquez won big and pac never won any rounds as clearly
But over a very even fight there were 10 very very close rounds where both fighters were landing equally, pac pipped rounds because he was significantly more agressive
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You just love an argument Eric, if everyone on here said the sky was blue you'd say it was green! ;D
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
It was a very close fight and could hve gone to either boxer IMO.
The people who thought that JMM won by a landslide weere watching a different fight than me.
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
I have not watched the fight myself as I could not afford it and had to prioritise feeding the kids instead. I had JMM winning the first 2 fights for the record but would have supported Pac Man in this fight purely because I want him to fight and beat Floyd. That may not be likely from the sound of things on this forum as Floyd is bigger, better and smarter.
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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0james0
You just love an argument Eric, if everyone on here said the sky was blue you'd say it was green! ;D
Honestly man i havent had an argument wth anyone on here for ages and i fancy one
Ive tried recently too but noone bites anymore :(
Thing is tho i do actually think pac won but it was so close i wouldnt argue with anyone who thinks marquez won
It definately wasnt a robbery tho
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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Originally Posted by
Master
I have not watched the fight myself as I could not afford it and had to prioritise feeding the kids instead. I had JMM winning the first 2 fights for the record but would have supported Pac Man in this fight purely because I want him to fight and beat Floyd. That may not be likely from the sound of things on this forum as Floyd is bigger, better and smarter.
Its on youtube now :)
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
HAha ;D its not a fucking dance contest!! You gotall excited and impressed by movement instead of solid punches.
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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Andre
HAha ;D its not a fucking dance contest!! You gotall excited and impressed by movement instead of solid punches.
Talking to me? If so im not sure what you are going on about
Pissed?
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
You said anyone want an argument.. ;D
Im obliging you.. ;D
;D <- this means its all in fun @ Saddos.com. If you didnt know.;)
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
Andre
HAha ;D its not a fucking dance contest!! You gotall excited and impressed by movement instead of solid punches.
Talking to me? If so im not sure what you are going on about
Pissed?
Marquez wasnt pissed !! Didnt you hear he has stopped that practice? :lickish:
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
erics44
AWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CUMMONNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!
it wasnt my fault i never watched it at the time
Go for it bruh, present your case.. Let's at least hear it.. :)
As you insist
It was an extremeky close fight, marquez landed the more eye catching punches and pac was pressing from start to finish
I think they did land a very similar amount of punches its just pacs pressing left him open a bit more and the punches he took caught they eye
A couple of rounds marquez won big and pac never won any rounds as clearly
But over a very even fight there were 10 very very close rounds where both fighters were landing equally, pac pipped rounds because he was significantly more agressive
Actually thats a very good analogy: but its wrong.
Manny tasted his own blood early (you could see his corner mopping it out of his lip) and the belief that blood loss weakens him, made him punch softer than Juan was. ;)
Oh ;D
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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Mattyhitman
your too late mate, i think that :boat: has sailed
Oh, and your wrong anyway 8)
I don't think any side is wrong here. Like what a poster said, BOXING SCORING IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE. In a very close fight, people will be split on who to give the round to. They may try to distribute those rounds evenly on the two protagonist or they might give all of them to the boxer with the fighting style they prefer hence the huge discrepancy in some of the scorecards.
Until they come up with a better and more accurate way of scoring fights, then there will just be more of these arguments in the coming fights.
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
Mattyhitman
your too late mate, i think that :boat: has sailed
Oh, and your wrong anyway 8)
I don't think any side is wrong here. Like what a poster said, BOXING SCORING IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE. In a very close fight, people will be split on who to give the round to. They may try to distribute those rounds evenly on the two protagonist or they might give all of them to the boxer with the fighting style they prefer hence the huge discrepancy in some of the scorecards.
Until they come up with a better and more accurate way of scoring fights, then there will just be more of these arguments in the coming fights.
It probably comes down to who you're more of a fan of too. I'm not saying it's always the case, but Pac fans will be more likely to see the fight going more Manny's way, and JMM's fans will see it going his way.
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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Originally Posted by
Andre
You said anyone want an argument.. ;D
Im obliging you.. ;D
;D <- this means its all in fun @ Saddos.com. If you didnt know.;)
Yeah i know, i was arguing back
You was suppose to abuse me for calling you pissed
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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Andre
Actually thats a very good analogy: but its wrong.
Manny tasted his own blood early (you could see his corner mopping it out of his lip) and the belief that blood loss weakens him, made him punch softer than Juan was. ;)
Oh ;D
maybe, knowing giving blood samples so close to a fight weakens manny, marquez loaded his gloves with needles
Or maybe he has bionic nipples
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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Originally Posted by
erics44
yep its true, i thought pac won the fight
couple of rounds in fact
Sorry... You're late to the party, the kids have all gone and the clown is getting packed up. Heres a party bag... Fuck off and play by yourself! :p
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
I have said before I am a fan, of both fighter's but JMM, did beat him by 8 round's to
4 in my eye's.?;D
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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Originally Posted by
erics44
yep its true, i thought pac won the fight
couple of rounds in fact
Agreed, I felt he won too
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
Marquez won the fight and it was the easiest fight to score. Close rounds for sure, but a clear winner. Everyone had it that way except the judges.
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Jmm won the fight. Never seen manny look so bad. He really never landed anything worthwhile and even though he was pressing forward he was surprisingly low key
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miles
Marquez won the fight and it was the easiest fight to score. Close rounds for sure, but a clear winner. Everyone had it that way except the judges.
I didnt
But who am i? :)
And it definately wasnt easy to score
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
In this fight JMM, landing more and the better shot's
so I cant see how Pac, beat him.?:nono:
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Where do u watch this fight again?
Not on youtube?
Any free links?
Thanks.
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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erics44
yep its true, i thought pac won the fight
couple of rounds in fact
Coming from pretty much the only guy on the planet, who thinks Carl Froch was robbed vs Mikkel Kessler. And the same guy who thinks Carl Froch was ahead coming into the last round vs Jermain Taylor.
I'd love to see your scorecard.
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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ICB
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erics44
yep its true, i thought pac won the fight
couple of rounds in fact
Coming from pretty much the only guy on the planet, who thinks Carl Froch was robbed vs Mikkel Kessler. And the same guy who thinks Carl Froch was ahead coming into the last round vs Jermain Taylor.
I'd love to see your scorecard.
Ha
1 im not the only guy on the planet who thinks froch beat kessler (watch it again you will agree froch was very unlucky not to win)
2 froch was miles behind on the cards v taylor
3 i had no feelings going into the pac marquez fight, i dont particularly like nor dislike either, i probably wouldnt have watched the fight had there not been so much uproar so i believe mine is a completely impartial unbias view
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miles
Marquez won the fight and it was the easiest fight to score. Close rounds for sure, but a clear winner. Everyone had it that way except the judges.
You and ElTerrible only agreed on 5 rounds and has a discrepancy in 7 rounds. He seem not to find it easy to score since it did not match your scorecard.
And you seem to always miss the news items of those who score the fight in Pac's favor.
I am not insisting Pacquiao won. For me, it could have gone either way, AGAIN. I am just responding to those post that are deceptive.
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
This fight had us again, on this forum split on a clear
winner? but most think JMM, beat Pacman Khan had
JMM a winner? :o what more can you say.;D
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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Dia bando
This fight had us again, on this forum split on a clear
winner? but most think JMM, beat Pacman Khan had
JMM a winner? :o what more can you say.;D
i watched the version where khan was commentating
the american dude who was doing it with him was very pro marquez, got a hard on everytime marquez took a step forward
i reckon if that other dude would have been pro pac then khan would be bumming pac over the fight instead :)
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
erics44
yep its true, i thought pac won the fight
couple of rounds in fact
Coming from pretty much the only guy on the planet, who thinks Carl Froch was robbed vs Mikkel Kessler. And the same guy who thinks Carl Froch was ahead coming into the last round vs Jermain Taylor.
I'd love to see your scorecard.
Ha
1 im not the only guy on the planet who thinks froch beat kessler (watch it again you will agree froch was very unlucky not to win)
2 froch was miles behind on the cards v taylor
3 i had no feelings going into the pac marquez fight, i dont particularly like nor dislike either, i probably wouldnt have watched the fight had there not been so much uproar so i believe mine is a completely impartial unbias view
I've watched the fight 3 times, and last time you made a thread about it. I scored it RBR and gave my scorecard, Carl Froch was clearly outworked and Mikkel Kessler had the best moments in the fight stunning Carl Froch.
I'd like to see your RBR scorecard for JMM vs Manny Pacquiao though.
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
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ICB
I've watched the fight 3 times, and last time you made a thread about it. I scored it RBR and gave my scorecard, Carl Froch was clearly outworked and Mikkel Kessler had the best moments in the fight stunning Carl Froch.
I'd like to see your RBR scorecard for JMM vs Manny Pacquiao though.
You cant have watched it 3 times if you still think kess won, yes he came forward more but he never hit him and thats part of boxing isnt it?
Watch it again and tell me the time in a round where kes landed a significant punch before the sixth
Ill post my score card for pac marquez when im near it but what difference will it make, peoples cards ar so varied on that fight
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Re: I thought pac won - anyone want an argument or am i too late?
Sixth watch with slow-mo round 6 and 10.
R1- Pac 10-9
R2- JMM 9-10
R3- Pac 10-9
R4-Pac 10-9
R5-JMM 9-10
R6-Pac 10-9
R7-Even 10-10
R8-JMM 10-9
R9-Pac 10-9
R10-JMM 9-10
R11-Pac 10-9
R12-Pac 10-9
Pacquiao- 117
Marquez- 112
Marquez never committed to seizing the pace, and that was his downfall. He has the craft but lacked the physical capability to fully overtake Pacquiao's offensive tempo and generalship with his own.
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1 pac
2 jmm
3 pac
4 pac
5 jmm
6 pac
7 jmm
8 pac
9 jmm
10 jmm
11 pac
12 pac
I agree with poster above, lots of the rounds were very close and i thought pac pipped them coz marquez was constantly retreating
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Mars_ax
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Mattyhitman
your too late mate, i think that :boat: has sailed
Oh, and your wrong anyway 8)
I don't think any side is wrong here. Like what a poster said, BOXING SCORING IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE. In a very close fight, people will be split on who to give the round to. They may try to distribute those rounds evenly on the two protagonist or they might give all of them to the boxer with the fighting style they prefer hence the huge discrepancy in some of the scorecards.
Until they come up with a better and more accurate way of scoring fights, then there will just be more of these arguments in the coming fights.
It probably comes down to who you're more of a fan of too. I'm not saying it's always the case, but Pac fans will be more likely to see the fight going more Manny's way, and JMM's fans will see it going his way.
I appreciate what ya saying about being a fan of one than another. The irony is Im more a Pac fan than JMM, I wanted, and predicted Pac to dominate the fight. I was left utterly dispondant by his performance. I was actually looking at Pac throughout the fight wanting him to do more, but in my eye's he didnt.
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Originally Posted by
Mattyhitman
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
Mattyhitman
your too late mate, i think that :boat: has sailed
Oh, and your wrong anyway 8)
I don't think any side is wrong here. Like what a poster said, BOXING SCORING IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE. In a very close fight, people will be split on who to give the round to. They may try to distribute those rounds evenly on the two protagonist or they might give all of them to the boxer with the fighting style they prefer hence the huge discrepancy in some of the scorecards.
Until they come up with a better and more accurate way of scoring fights, then there will just be more of these arguments in the coming fights.
It probably comes down to who you're more of a fan of too. I'm not saying it's always the case, but Pac fans will be more likely to see the fight going more Manny's way, and JMM's fans will see it going his way.
I appreciate what ya saying about being a fan of one than another. The irony is Im more a Pac fan than JMM, I wanted, and predicted Pac to dominate the fight. I was left utterly dispondant by his performance. I was actually looking at Pac throughout the fight wanting him to do more, but in my eye's he didnt.
I believe all Pacquiao fans are disappointed with how the fight went.
He did not dominate the fight as expected but he wasn't dominated in the fight either as some suggested.
Lousy performance by the P4P boxer + excellent performance by a huge underdog = perception that the underdog won in an almost even fight. In such close fight, nonpartisan fans would likely side with the underdog for the effort that was showed and for being able to make the fight competitive. This is just a theory and I am not presenting it here as fact.
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InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
Mattyhitman
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
InTheNeutralCorner
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Originally Posted by
Mattyhitman
your too late mate, i think that :boat: has sailed
Oh, and your wrong anyway 8)
I don't think any side is wrong here. Like what a poster said, BOXING SCORING IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE. In a very close fight, people will be split on who to give the round to. They may try to distribute those rounds evenly on the two protagonist or they might give all of them to the boxer with the fighting style they prefer hence the huge discrepancy in some of the scorecards.
Until they come up with a better and more accurate way of scoring fights, then there will just be more of these arguments in the coming fights.
It probably comes down to who you're more of a fan of too. I'm not saying it's always the case, but Pac fans will be more likely to see the fight going more Manny's way, and JMM's fans will see it going his way.
I appreciate what ya saying about being a fan of one than another. The irony is Im more a Pac fan than JMM, I wanted, and predicted Pac to dominate the fight. I was left utterly dispondant by his performance. I was actually looking at Pac throughout the fight wanting him to do more, but in my eye's he didnt.
I believe all Pacquiao fans are disappointed with how the fight went.
He did not dominate the fight as expected but he wasn't dominated in the fight either as some suggested.
Lousy performance by the P4P boxer + excellent performance by a huge underdog = perception that the underdog won in an almost even fight. In such close fight, nonpartisan fans would likely side with the underdog for the effort that was showed and for being able to make the fight competitive. This is just a theory and I am not presenting it here as fact.
It's a good theory and one I wouldnt argue against.
I tend not to watch the fights again, as like to go by first impressions. Dont want to dilute my original perspective by other peoples opinions and swayed judgements.
Chances are If i did watch it again, I may see it differently, but as the with the judges at ringside, I give myself one shot at scoring the fight and generally stick to first impressions.
