guzman is back.. How does he fare against the top guys at 140?
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guzman is back.. How does he fare against the top guys at 140?
Guzman should never ever be allowed to fight below Welter, he has proven that he can't make 140.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Didn't he test positive for diuretics in his last fight anyway? And he still came in over weight.
He weighed in at a shocking 139lbs .. He came in real good shape bro..Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepGuzman should never ever be allowed to fight below Welter, he has proven that he can't make 140Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Where's your source?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaHe weighed in at a shocking 139lbs .. He came in real good shape bro..Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepGuzman should never ever be allowed to fight below Welter, he has proven that he can't make 140Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Joan Guzman Shocks Everyone, Weighs in at 139-Pounds - Boxing NewsQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhere's your source?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaHe weighed in at a shocking 139lbs .. He came in real good shape bro..Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepGuzman should never ever be allowed to fight below Welter, he has proven that he can't make 140Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Thanks, Fenster and I used to be pretty high on Guzman, but he started getting inactive and pricing himself out of fights the he started missing weight clearly I had overestimated his ring smarts. Topping that of he came up positive for banned substance. Don't get me wrong he has amazing hand speed and defensive ability is phenomenal. There's just something about his drive. I don't think I could declare he's back after that level of opposition, but coming in at 139 is a promising sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaJoan Guzman Shocks Everyone, Weighs in at 139-Pounds - Boxing NewsQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhere's your source?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaHe weighed in at a shocking 139lbs .. He came in real good shape bro..Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepGuzman should never ever be allowed to fight below Welter, he has proven that he can't make 140Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Cant disagree with you there. But like you said, he is at least showing discipline and getting back in shape. It's not like he's taken any punishment during his career so if he truly dedicates himself, I dont see why he couldnt make another run and this coming fro someone who is not a huge fan of guzman.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThanks, Fenster and I used to be pretty high on Guzman, but he started getting inactive and pricing himself out of fights the he started missing weight clearly I had overestimated his ring smarts. Topping that of he came up positive for banned substance. Don't get me wrong he has amazing hand speed and defensive ability is phenomenal. There's just something about his drive. I don't think I could declare he's back after that level of opposition, but coming in at 139 is a promising sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaJoan Guzman Shocks Everyone, Weighs in at 139-Pounds - Boxing NewsQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhere's your source?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaHe weighed in at a shocking 139lbs .. He came in real good shape bro..Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepGuzman should never ever be allowed to fight below Welter, he has proven that he can't make 140Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
His cat-like reflex is still there..
I hope he takes is seriously, and I hope he gets better guidance on the business side. He could make waves, but where he's at now, he's been before.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaCant disagree with you there. But like you said, he is at least showing discipline and getting back in shape. It's not like he's taken any punishment during his career so if he truly dedicates himself, I dont see why he couldnt make another run and this coming fro someone who is not a huge fan of guzman.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThanks, Fenster and I used to be pretty high on Guzman, but he started getting inactive and pricing himself out of fights the he started missing weight clearly I had overestimated his ring smarts. Topping that of he came up positive for banned substance. Don't get me wrong he has amazing hand speed and defensive ability is phenomenal. There's just something about his drive. I don't think I could declare he's back after that level of opposition, but coming in at 139 is a promising sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaJoan Guzman Shocks Everyone, Weighs in at 139-Pounds - Boxing NewsQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepWhere's your source?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaHe weighed in at a shocking 139lbs .. He came in real good shape bro..Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepGuzman should never ever be allowed to fight below Welter, he has proven that he can't make 140Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
His cat-like reflex is still there..
The thing with Guzman, he did waste his careerQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
not makeing weight.
Hell a great fighter, is this guy right in the head
were did it all wrong,:( pity what a waste?
I think the early success got to his head and drove him to the buffet tables too often..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoThe thing with Guzman, he did waste his careerQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
not makeing weight.
Hell a great fighter, is this guy right in the head
were did it all wrong,:( pity what a waste?
I dont think it's too late though. The guy has special talents and he's rarely taken any punches. He was in good shape for this bout so i think he might be rejuvenated.
He could be a stiff test for these up-n-comers like Vernon Paris and Jesse Vargas.. I still think he can beat the best out there.
I still am a fan of Guzman. Yeah he's an utter disgrace but the guy has some serious undeniable talent.
He ruined his chance of ever being a "great" fighter.... However,
Prime Guzman counter-punch's Pac to death. Fact.
I hope he stays motivated. He will be tough for anyone around the weight! But he needs to be fast tracked back to get back to where he was
Yes Guzman was that good but he did have a tendency of being a bully and on top fighter, so do not know how he would have reacted if he was pushed to the limits by a great fighter like Manny.
When I see some one like Guzman, with all that talent
just seem's to piss me off.?
Will he be a champion again,yes World pie eating champion:feedme:
The more I think about it, I'm really excited about Guzman's return. He matches up well with nearly everyone at 147 & 140.
assuming he makes weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
True, but he did come in under the Jr. Welter limit when the fight was at Welter, that's gotta count for something!?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepassuming he makes weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
If he is anywhere near his best I'd favour him against most of the top guys in both divisions