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I believe Cotto will knock him out in the late rounds. Margarito will not be landing left uppercuts like he did anymore plus no plaster(if it was used which I believe was). I don't believe he'll land any because if you notice Cotto's last fights, that right hand is protecting him well, and looks to be training alot harder then before.... Either way let's see what your thoughts are.
I'm going with Cotto in this one, Miguel has come back well from his loss to Margarito in their 1st fight and the loss to Pacquiao. It's remains to be seen however if Margarito can come back from his beatdown in the Mosley fight, and total destruction he recieved from Pacquiao.
Cotto by 8th round TKO. (the ref stops the fight)
Cotto, in the neighborhood of 116-113, or a late (round 10-ish) TKO.
Cotto by ko
I'm also going with cotto with late TKO but it could easly go the other way Margarito is one hard guy
Margarito by TKO. Cotto's chin and stamina will be his downfall again. It's just a terrible match-up for him.
If margarito's eye isn't 100% then cotto stops him on damage to the eye. If the eye does hold up then margaritos stops him late on again.
As much as I want cotto to win I just think marg has his number so Margarito TKO 10/11
i agree to some extent, in their primes margarito would win every timeQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
i dont think either are in their primes now tho and i think cottos experience will take him to a UD
for all those who think cotto will stop margarito, the only way that will happen is through injury
Its gonna be around the same as the first fight. Margarito by 10th round TKO
This fight has so many question marks. On the one hand, it appears Margarito used cement gloves in his last fight against Cotto. He won't be allowed to use ithem this time. The biggest question clearly is what effect will that have on the fight? Recall that Cotto put on a clinic for the first half of the fight until Margarito's punches started to take their toll. If they aren't taking that same toll without the cement, can Cotto make it through the fight and win with his superior boxing skills? Has his new trainer taught Cotto to fight effectively backing up? How will Margarito's eye hold up? Who has more left in him after the beatings they took at the hands of Pacquiao? I thought the Margarito that fought Pacquiao looked good even in defeat. If he's in that same form, he should be a tough fight for Cotto. Yet, I vacillate between Margarito in his good form from last night walking through Cotto and Margarito not being as effective a fighter without cheating. Look at the three fights Margarito has had cement free. Old Shane Mosley knocked him out. 5'6 Pacquiao dominated him from pillar to post. Journeyman he fought a closer than expected fight. It's really a tough one.
I like Cotto by decision, although a stoppage due to cuts or swelling wouldn't surprise me.
With all the talk about the gloves, one thing that's been overlooked is the huge tactical mistake Cotto made in the first fight by not using his great left hook to the body. Part of the reason Margarito was able to take Cotto's punches is because they were all head shots.
Margarito was badly hurt to the body by both Mosley and Pacquiao. Cotto has to attack Margarito's body this time and try to break him down.
Tottally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra
Either the ref of Margarito's corner stops the fight late 9th or 10th round....Cotto will have to weather the storm early though
Cotto's main problem is Antonio's height and he should jab his way in and hit that body and forget his face for the first five rounds and then surprise Margarito's hands will begin a descent like a disabled submarine in the late rounds giving Cotto some breathing room. The damage Margarito sustained after the discovery of his dishonest tactics will have him bidding the people at ringside good night or listening to his losing scores once again with certainty. If Cotto is in shape and doesn't deviate from a good fight plan his arm will be raised but until then I will honestly say I hope that's how it turns out because things change.
Good point, Margarito knows just one way to fight, aggressively and straight ahead. So Cotto needs to keep the fight in the center of the ring, and no backing into the ropes, when Margo gets a fighter backing up and/or on the ropes he's deadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
I believe Miguel's power will be the difference in this one, he'll hurt Margarito this time to the head and body. I also don't believe that Margo's punch resistance is what it was prior to the Mosley and Pacquiao beatdowns.
P.S. I hope Cotto beats this cheatin' muther-fucker senseless.
I think this go round, if Cotto starts feeling too much pressure he'll tag Margarito to the sack like he did Judah...who would blame him?
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Originally Posted by erics44i agree to some extent, in their primes margarito would win every timeQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
i dont think either are in their primes now tho and i think cottos experience will take him to a UD
for all those who think cotto will stop margarito, the only way that will happen is through injury
I'm ok with that.
Me too, I would love Cotto to end Margarito's careerQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44i agree to some extent, in their primes margarito would win every timeQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
i dont think either are in their primes now tho and i think cottos experience will take him to a UD
for all those who think cotto will stop margarito, the only way that will happen is through injury
I'm ok with that.
You know what, I would love to see Cotto just savagely attack Margarito and get himself DQ'd. Headbutts, elbows, uppercuts to the groin, haymaker rabbit punches... It'd be great.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
HAhaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHYou know what, I would love to see Cotto just savagely attack Margarito and get himself DQ'd. Headbutts, elbows, uppercuts to the groin, haymaker rabbit punches... It'd be great.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I hope Cotto wins this with smarts. I think Margacheato has his number if its to become a war.
Because of that i think Marg will win by tko in the 8th. 2min and 49 seconds into the 8th.
:p
Would be fun! But Cotto doesn't need at that, he'll just beat him fair & squareQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHYou know what, I would love to see Cotto just savagely attack Margarito and get himself DQ'd. Headbutts, elbows, uppercuts to the groin, haymaker rabbit punches... It'd be great.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Cotto by unanimous decision ........... but I'm hoping for a knock-out or brutal stoppage.
I appreciate everyones comment here, but I don't understand why people would even think margarito has a chance. I mean have you seen his last three fights? Seriously his punches have no power whatsoever.
I'm not so sure about that, Margo is still dangerous, you're underestimating him if you believe he has no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Well of course there's a chance and honestly if Cotto loses this fight I would be pissed because I believe in the fact that he only lost cuz of the loaded gloves so bad. But I still don't see margarito with that good of a chance based on his last 3 fights after being "caught cheating" lol it could just be my faith in Cotto, but I just don't see margarito winning this fight. Cotto KO/TKO between 8-10th round. Cotto 70% chance of winning and margarito 30%. If Cotto losses I will be scarred though haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI'm not so sure about that, Margo is still dangerous, you're underestimating him if you believe he has no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
My prediction is that regardless of who wins, Cotto will be a lot classier and more gracious in the post-fight interviews.
I hope you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Margarito has a heart and an ego for fighting he will have to be stopped by someone else he wont quit.
Cotto has better skills but he has a limit he will go to before he says in his own words he will quit and go home to his family.
Thats my only worry.
I take all that Macho bullshit Margarito spews about not quitting with a grain of salt, it's idiotic not to "quit" when you're taking a serious beating and your health is in danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreI hope you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Margarito has a heart and an ego for fighting he will have to be stopped by someone else he wont quit.
Cotto has better skills but he has a limit he will go to before he says in his own words he will quit and go home to his family.
Thats my only worry.
I've never blamed Cotto for quitting in the 1st fight, the plaster Margarito was using in his wraps must have felt like a baseball bat.
P.S. Margarito didn't seem to mind at all when the ref stopped the ass-whippin' he was getting from Mosley.
Ask Manny Pacquiao that. Pacquiao was holed up in a hospital for days after the Margarito fight and he said that a body shot by Margarito in that fight really hurt him. He's just too much of a champion to show it. I stand by the fact that even in utter defeat, Margarito came into that fight looking good. He's just tailor-made for Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Ok let's get one thing clear. Cotto said he wouldn't die to win lol people shouldn't mistake that for quitting in a fight huge difference. Cotto definitely has heart, watch his fights it's easy to tellQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI take all that Macho bullshit Margarito spews about not quitting with a grain of salt, it's idiotic not to "quit" when you're taking a serious beating and your health is in danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreI hope you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Margarito has a heart and an ego for fighting he will have to be stopped by someone else he wont quit.
Cotto has better skills but he has a limit he will go to before he says in his own words he will quit and go home to his family.
Thats my only worry.
I've never blamed Cotto for quitting in the 1st fight, the plaster Margarito was using in his wraps must have felt like a baseball bat.
P.S. Margarito didn't seem to mind at all when the ref stopped the ass-whippin' he was getting from Mosley.
I fully expect Margarito to be dangerous, but I also expect Cotto to stick and move. Outclass the man, don't make the mistake of thinking that the plaster was 100% the reason why Margarito won. I hate Margarito but he's a tough s.o.b. look at how he fought vs Mosley and Pacquiao....it took a while for Shane to stop him and Shane rocked the hell out of the guy, Pacquiao eased off the gas, but still Tony took a whuppin.
What it comes down to for me is confidence and determination. Cotto has to have the determination to stick to the fight plan and not engage Tony on his terms...DON'T BRAWL! Margarito has to have confidence that he can fight the very same way he did the first time without plaster wraps. I think when it gets down to the nitty gritty, Cotto is going to want to win more than Margarito and Tony is going to feel like half a fighter without the added advantage of the plaster wraps.
In the end, I think the left hooks to the eye will swell up Margarito and the ref or his corner (more likely the ref) will stop the fight
Ya margaritas trainer also had to use two pads on his body remember that all of a sudden now after getting fought with plaster you need two pads for that fag.... Seriously? Freddy roach don't bitch when manny hits him and he's old, sick and can barely react lol. Sounds like Bob Arum told many to act at one like he got hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAsk Manny Pacquiao that. Pacquiao was holed up in a hospital for days after the Margarito fight and he said that a body shot by Margarito in that fight really hurt him. He's just too much of a champion to show it. I stand by the fact that even in utter defeat, Margarito came into that fight looking good. He's just tailor-made for Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
You didn't respond to my post. There were pictures documenting him in the hospital. There's no reason why Manny would want to look less invincible. It doesn't make sense. Margarito's a cheating bastard, but he had a punch in that fight or maybe Manny was just at too big of a size disadvantage because the fight was at 150 and the punches really hurt him - the rare ones that landed.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelardusYa margaritas trainer also had to use two pads on his body remember that all of a sudden now after getting fought with plaster you need two pads for that fag.... Seriously? Freddy roach don't bitch when manny hits him and he's old, sick and can barely react lol. Sounds like Bob Arum told many to act at one like he got hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAsk Manny Pacquiao that. Pacquiao was holed up in a hospital for days after the Margarito fight and he said that a body shot by Margarito in that fight really hurt him. He's just too much of a champion to show it. I stand by the fact that even in utter defeat, Margarito came into that fight looking good. He's just tailor-made for Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Ya maybe the size advantage I think cuz margarito out wileighed by a huge amount I remember that. But I know the punch your talking about, I'm not gonna lie I kinda wanted margaritoQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratYou didn't respond to my post. There were pictures documenting him in the hospital. There's no reason why Manny would want to look less invincible. It doesn't make sense. Margarito's a cheating bastard, but he had a punch in that fight or maybe Manny was just at too big of a size disadvantage because the fight was at 150 and the punches really hurt him - the rare ones that landed.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelardusYa margaritas trainer also had to use two pads on his body remember that all of a sudden now after getting fought with plaster you need two pads for that fag.... Seriously? Freddy roach don't bitch when manny hits him and he's old, sick and can barely react lol. Sounds like Bob Arum told many to act at one like he got hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAsk Manny Pacquiao that. Pacquiao was holed up in a hospital for days after the Margarito fight and he said that a body shot by Margarito in that fight really hurt him. He's just too much of a champion to show it. I stand by the fact that even in utter defeat, Margarito came into that fight looking good. He's just tailor-made for Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Ya maybe the size advantage I think cuz margarito out weighed him by a huge amount I remember that. But I know the punch your talking about, I'm not gonna lie I kinda wanted margarito to win at that moment I got off my seat and shouted "get that motherfucker , it's your chance" lolQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratYou didn't respond to my post. There were pictures documenting him in the hospital. There's no reason why Manny would want to look less invincible. It doesn't make sense. Margarito's a cheating bastard, but he had a punch in that fight or maybe Manny was just at too big of a size disadvantage because the fight was at 150 and the punches really hurt him - the rare ones that landed.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelardusYa margaritas trainer also had to use two pads on his body remember that all of a sudden now after getting fought with plaster you need two pads for that fag.... Seriously? Freddy roach don't bitch when manny hits him and he's old, sick and can barely react lol. Sounds like Bob Arum told many to act at one like he got hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratAsk Manny Pacquiao that. Pacquiao was holed up in a hospital for days after the Margarito fight and he said that a body shot by Margarito in that fight really hurt him. He's just too much of a champion to show it. I stand by the fact that even in utter defeat, Margarito came into that fight looking good. He's just tailor-made for Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Cotto UD
Right, and Cotto didn't "quit" when he was taking a pounding in the Pacquiao fight, the ref stopped it, and I believe he even protested a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by AbelardusOk let's get one thing clear. Cotto said he wouldn't die to win lol people shouldn't mistake that for quitting in a fight huge difference. Cotto definitely has heart, watch his fights it's easy to tellQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI take all that Macho bullshit Margarito spews about not quitting with a grain of salt, it's idiotic not to "quit" when you're taking a serious beating and your health is in danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreI hope you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abelardus
Margarito has a heart and an ego for fighting he will have to be stopped by someone else he wont quit.
Cotto has better skills but he has a limit he will go to before he says in his own words he will quit and go home to his family.
Thats my only worry.
I've never blamed Cotto for quitting in the 1st fight, the plaster Margarito was using in his wraps must have felt like a baseball bat.
P.S. Margarito didn't seem to mind at all when the ref stopped the ass-whippin' he was getting from Mosley.
Cotto wins a decisive decision against Margarito, using his boxing skills, and throwing brutal body shots to keep Antonio at bay.
Hope you are all correct, Cotto deserves the win, I will be calling for him.
Looking forward to this.