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Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
I think Haye actually has a better chance of beating Vitali than he did against Wlad.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
I dont see how, yeah he fights more, so more chance to catch him, but on the flipside, hes just about the same size, way better chin, and more aggressive than wlad, i actually think this is a nightmare for haye
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
You lot serious? He has a better chance against the bigger, busier and granite-chinned brother? Haye either gets sparked or runs away to lopsided defeated
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
Vitali has all of that, but he's also clumsy and robotic. He doesn't have the balance of Wlad and Haye's speed and footwork could cause trouble for someone like him.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Vitali has all of that, but he's also clumsy and robotic. He doesn't have the balance of Wlad and Haye's speed and footwork could cause trouble for someone like him.
He's also old and I think Haye's hand speed and footwork will give him trouble because of low hands.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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CFH
I think Haye actually has a better chance of beating Vitali than he did against Wlad.
Seriously bro, I don't know why you would think that, at least against Wlad, Haye had small chance of knocking him out, but against the Iron chinned Vitali he has no chance at all. So you believe Haye would outbox Vitali? That's just laughable, Haye would be lucky to win a single round.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
Whether or not haye has much of a chance isnt the point
Who has a better chance? Helenius, provetkin, chisora, mormech, etc etc etc dont
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Haye is such a pretentious arsehole, he doesn't deserve to get a fight with Vitali, and the only interest most boxing fans would have in the fight, would be to see "Mr. Excitement" get annihilated.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
yep this is worse for him than fighting Wlad imo.
I can't see Vitali getting hurt I just can't. Maybe Haye has the speed for a decison win :-\ I don't know
Haye wont give us another safety first fight, he won't dare after last time so fuck it maybe he just goes for it and risks the KO loss
Does Haye deserve this shot ? Maybe not
Is there any other fighter in the world I want to see Vitali in with ahead of Haye ? Definitely not
Thats the heavyweight division at the moment and we know it
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
:vd:
(sigh)....He isn't real heavyweight, he's beaten no one of note, he hasn't earned a shot, he's got an alligator mouth and a hummingbird ass.
But don't listen to me, I mean I only called out that Haye was a fraud from the get go....why don't you fool yourselves into thinking Odlanier Solis "solved the puzzle that is Vitali Klitschko" in not even a 3rd of a round. "He was winning the fight up til that point...surely Haye can beat him!"
I don't want to call Haye supporters morons.........but it's really difficult not to. Is Vitali old? Sure. Has he looked old? Not really. Has his chin, power, or stamina, shown cracks? Not especially. Has Haye progressed as a boxer? NO he lost to Wlad and slinked into retirement and now he's just trying to weasel out another undeserved payday!
Remember friends, Haye didn't want to fight both brothers to begin with....he had it specifically taken out of the contracts before he finally (after damn near 4 years) decided to finally fight Wladimir.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
:vd:
(sigh)....He isn't real heavyweight, he's beaten no one of note, he hasn't earned a shot, he's got an alligator mouth and a hummingbird ass.
But don't listen to me, I mean I only called out that Haye was a fraud from the get go....why don't you fool yourselves into thinking Odlanier Solis "solved the puzzle that is Vitali Klitschko" in not even a 3rd of a round. "He was winning the fight up til that point...surely Haye can beat him!"
I don't want to call Haye supporters morons.........but it's really difficult not to. Is Vitali old? Sure. Has he looked old? Not really. Has his chin, power, or stamina, shown cracks? Not especially. Has Haye progressed as a boxer? NO he lost to Wlad and slinked into retirement and now he's just trying to weasel out another undeserved payday!
Remember friends, Haye didn't want to fight both brothers to begin with....he had it specifically taken out of the contracts before he finally (after damn near 4 years) decided to finally fight Wladimir.
its takes 2 to tango mate and Vitali is as much if not more to blame on this occasion... just shows how crap the heavyweight division is for talent if this fight comes off... as you may know I'm a fan of the kilits but they will be digging up Archie Moore up for a defence at this rate. :-\
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
:vd:
(sigh)....He isn't real heavyweight, he's beaten no one of note, he hasn't earned a shot, he's got an alligator mouth and a hummingbird ass.
But don't listen to me, I mean I only called out that Haye was a fraud from the get go....why don't you fool yourselves into thinking Odlanier Solis "solved the puzzle that is Vitali Klitschko" in not even a 3rd of a round. "He was winning the fight up til that point...surely Haye can beat him!"
I don't want to call Haye supporters morons.........but it's really difficult not to. Is Vitali old? Sure. Has he looked old? Not really. Has his chin, power, or stamina, shown cracks? Not especially. Has Haye progressed as a boxer? NO he lost to Wlad and slinked into retirement and now he's just trying to weasel out another undeserved payday!
Remember friends, Haye didn't want to fight both brothers to begin with....he had it specifically taken out of the contracts before he finally (after damn near 4 years) decided to finally fight Wladimir.
You would have thought Haye's fanboys would have learned their lesson after being conned into buying the Haye/Wlad PPV, but noooooo!
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
Saddo
its takes 2 to tango mate and Vitali is as much if not more to blame on this occasion... just shows how crap the heavyweight division is for talent if this fight comes off... as you may know I'm a fan of the kilits but they will be digging up Archie Moore up for a defence at this rate. :-\
If Vitali wants to fight him as an optional defense then I guess it's similar to Wlad fighting Mormeck...neither guy has earned a shot. If Vitali is going to "dig people up" I'd much rather he fight Valuev just because it would be interesting to see a couple of 7 footers fight.
Solis is working his way back, Helenius is not quite ready (he's getting closer), Povetkin may never be ready, and as for everyone else? Too young, too old, too worn, or not skilled enough to beat the Klitschko's.
Sometimes you wonder "Why have multiple belts"? In the heavyweight division they need it, because nobody, I mean NOBODY poses any kind of dangerous threat to the Klitschko brothers they are that on their game at the moment. Maybe Helenius vs Vitali late next year would be "dangerous" but hell even that is a stretch.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
I don't want to call Haye supporters morons.........but it's really difficult not to. Is Vitali old? Sure. Has he looked old? Not really. Has his chin, power, or stamina, shown cracks? Not especially. Has Haye progressed as a boxer? NO he lost to Wlad and slinked into retirement and now he's just trying to weasel out another undeserved payday!
Remember friends, Haye didn't want to fight both brothers to begin with....he had it specifically taken out of the contracts before he finally (after damn near 4 years) decided to finally fight Wladimir.
You have a very obscure view on the world
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
I don't want to call Haye supporters morons.........but it's really difficult not to. Is Vitali old? Sure. Has he looked old? Not really. Has his chin, power, or stamina, shown cracks? Not especially. Has Haye progressed as a boxer? NO he lost to Wlad and slinked into retirement and now he's just trying to weasel out another undeserved payday!
Remember friends, Haye didn't want to fight both brothers to begin with....he had it specifically taken out of the contracts before he finally (after damn near 4 years) decided to finally fight Wladimir.
You have a very obscure view on the world
I suppose you disagree with what I said?
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
:vd:
(sigh)....He isn't real heavyweight, he's beaten no one of note, he hasn't earned a shot, he's got an alligator mouth and a hummingbird ass.
But don't listen to me, I mean I only called out that Haye was a fraud from the get go....why don't you fool yourselves into thinking Odlanier Solis "solved the puzzle that is Vitali Klitschko" in not even a 3rd of a round. "He was winning the fight up til that point...surely Haye can beat him!"
I don't want to call Haye supporters morons.........but it's really difficult not to. Is Vitali old? Sure. Has he looked old? Not really. Has his chin, power, or stamina, shown cracks? Not especially. Has Haye progressed as a boxer? NO he lost to Wlad and slinked into retirement and now he's just trying to weasel out another undeserved payday!
Remember friends, Haye didn't want to fight both brothers to begin with....he had it specifically taken out of the contracts before he finally (after damn near 4 years) decided to finally fight Wladimir.
You would have thought Haye's fanboys would have learned their lesson after being conned into buying the Haye/Wlad PPV, but noooooo!
Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to see the fight?
I don't care if Haye has a chance or not, I just want to see the fight because no other fights that could possibly be made at this time are even remotely interesting.
Now if that's not true, please list some fights that could actually have a chance of taking place with the Klitschkos that you -want- to see. And remember, it has to be one that is actually likely. Nothing like Helenius or Fury who we know will not be in the running for quite some time.
Now if no one can come up with any then does it really make sense to say you do not want to see Haye? So you would rather watch something like Wlad vs Mormeck???
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
I don't care who they fight to be honest, it's just a matter of how the Klitschko's win decision or KO....the guys that step in the ring with the brothers now will only be statistics
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
I don't care who they fight to be honest, it's just a matter of how the Klitschko's win decision or KO....the guys that step in the ring with the brothers now will only be statistics
So then you should be for the fight with Haye then. :) Or at least neutral.
Anyway Haye vs Vitali should be at least as interesting as the Adamek fight turned out.
And far better than the Solis fight. :-X
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
:vd:
(sigh)....He isn't real heavyweight, he's beaten no one of note, he hasn't earned a shot, he's got an alligator mouth and a hummingbird ass.
But don't listen to me, I mean I only called out that Haye was a fraud from the get go....why don't you fool yourselves into thinking Odlanier Solis "solved the puzzle that is Vitali Klitschko" in not even a 3rd of a round. "He was winning the fight up til that point...surely Haye can beat him!"
I don't want to call Haye supporters morons.........but it's really difficult not to. Is Vitali old? Sure. Has he looked old? Not really. Has his chin, power, or stamina, shown cracks? Not especially. Has Haye progressed as a boxer? NO he lost to Wlad and slinked into retirement and now he's just trying to weasel out another undeserved payday!
Remember friends, Haye didn't want to fight both brothers to begin with....he had it specifically taken out of the contracts before he finally (after damn near 4 years) decided to finally fight Wladimir.
You would have thought Haye's fanboys would have learned their lesson after being conned into buying the Haye/Wlad PPV, but noooooo!
Why is it so hard to understand that some people just want to see the fight?
I don't care if Haye has a chance or not, I just want to see the fight because no other fights that could possibly be made at this time are even remotely interesting.
Now if that's not true, please list some fights that could actually have a chance of taking place with the Klitschkos that you -want- to see. And remember, it has to be one that is actually likely. Nothing like Helenius or Fury who we know will not be in the running for quite some time.
Now if no one can come up with any then does it really make sense to say you do not want to see Haye? So you would rather watch something like Wlad vs Mormeck???
So you wanna see Haye-Vitali because you don't care if Haye has a chance or not, but it would be slightly more interesting then the other uninteresting HW fights out there for Vitali and Wlad? :confused: Wow, Ninja-spy, that's suppose to make sense to me?
Although Vitali vs Haye figures to be a onesided stinker/beatdown, if it's not on PPV, I wouldn't mind watching some of it, especially if Vitali crushes Haye, but that's the only reason i'd have any interest in seeing it.
Seriously man, except to see him get his ass kicked, only a Hayemo would have any interest in seeing this clown get in the ring again.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
If anyone is an insomniac then this will be safer than a prescribed sleeping pill. Good night all.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
I don't care who they fight to be honest, it's just a matter of how the Klitschko's win decision or KO....the guys that step in the ring with the brothers now will only be statistics
So then you should be for the fight with Haye then. :) Or at least neutral.
Anyway Haye vs Vitali should be at least as interesting as the Adamek fight turned out.
And far better than the Solis fight. :-X
Solis will be back!
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Originally Posted by
Galaxy
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Originally Posted by
ninjaspy3
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
I don't care who they fight to be honest, it's just a matter of how the Klitschko's win decision or KO....the guys that step in the ring with the brothers now will only be statistics
So then you should be for the fight with Haye then. :) Or at least neutral.
Anyway Haye vs Vitali should be at least as interesting as the Adamek fight turned out.
And far better than the Solis fight. :-X
Solis will be back!
Not saying adamek fight was intresting but adamek tried and gave it his all, which I don't think haye will do and this time hell have a sore thumb that'll prevent him from fighting the way he wants to or some such shit
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
If Haye wasn't such a pussy, he would have a chance of unpointing Vitali, based simply on his athletisism, but he is a pussy and he will rui scared, but will get caught and knocked out within 3 rounds.
If Haye took a 5 yard run up and landed square on Vitali's chin he couldn't knock him out ;D
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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BIG H
If Haye wasn't such a pussy, he would have a chance of unpointing Vitali, based simply on his athletisism, but he is a pussy and he will rui scared, but will get caught and knocked out within 3 rounds.
If Haye took a 5 yard run up and landed square on Vitali's chin he couldn't knock him out ;D
well said
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I do not see the point in all this pussy footing. "I'm in talks" bullshit.
Are you fighting him or not.
Come back when you have it agreed.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
Haye will want a minimum fee which could be at a guess £2-3 million, other than that he will not care about what percentage Vitali gets.
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Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
TitoFan: Gee.... no shit, Sherlock!
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
Haye deserves 2.5 million dollars..
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
CFH
I think Haye actually has a better chance of beating Vitali than he did against Wlad.
I felt that he HAD a better chance at Vitali before he fought Wlad, but at this point? No way. He has absolutely no shot in hell unless Vitali really gets old overnight, which I guess is possible but even then, the guy is a great fighter, Haye is a good athlete who doesn't really want to fight at all imo.
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
I don't believe Haye has a chance in hell of beating Vitali, it was obvious how he didn't want to engage into a fight with Wlad, it was embarrasing.
Vitali "Will" do a number on him, by brutal KO around the fifth.
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Hate doesn't deserve this fight!!
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Haye deserves 2.5 million dollars..
you left off this thing.. :confused:
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Re: Haye: Im in talks for Vitali.. I dont deserve a 50-50 now
His only hope is to catch him coming in and that isnt happening while taking off. No hope.