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1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Sergio Martinez
5. Nonito Donaire
6. Bernard Hopkins
7. Andre Ward
8. Carl Froch
9. Wladimir Klitschko
10. Amir Khan
Honourable Mentions: Timothy Bradley, Vitali Klitschko, Chad Dawson.
To be honest I don't see why vitali or wlad shouldn't be number 3 as they dominant especially vitali.
While they have been dominant there level of competition is still weak considering who the other guys on my list have beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
Mayweather doesn't make my top 10 P4P, because he doesn't fight often enough. I picked Bradley in my top 10 over Khan, because Tim is undefeated and he's been a champion longer. Pacquiao despite his close fight against JMM is still at #1. Read 'um and weep.. ;)
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Wladimir Klitschko
4. Vitali Klitschko
5. Nonito Donaire
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Timothy Bradley
8. Carl Froch
9. Lucian Bute
10. Juan Manuel Marquez
I can agree why you don't have Mayweather there because of his lack of activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Bute don't belong above Marquez or Ward for that matter though.
His best win is Glen Johnson while Ward's best win is Kessler.
Marquez just gave the number 1 P4P a very tough fight where the majority of fans thought he won. He should be higher than 10.
Your list though so i will have to accept it. :)
1 Pacman
2 Floyd
3 JM Marquez
4 Martinez
5 Donaire
6 W Klitschko
7 V Klitschko
8 Ward
9 Hopkins
10 Gamboa
honorable mentions- Bute, Bradley, Cotto, Khan
But they have cleaned the division as its not down to them there is no competition???Quote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticWhile they have been dominant there level of competition is still weak considering who the other guys on my list have beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
I would swap cotto and Marquez around and have ward instead of bute but froch above them both mainly because of his string of competition and being a 2 time WBCQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
no offense , but i don't like this list. Cotto is too high. Marquez way way too low. Just like the poster above said, switch Ward with Bute. Mayweather should be on the list -c'mon . And how about B-Hop?Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI would swap cotto and Marquez around and have ward instead of bute but froch above them both mainly because of his string of competition and being a 2 time WBCQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
I know the talent in their weight class isn't their fault but it has to be taken into account when rating them P4P. I have Wladimir at 9 and Vitali just falls short on my list so i'm not completely ignoring them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeBut they have cleaned the division as its not down to them there is no competition???Quote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticWhile they have been dominant there level of competition is still weak considering who the other guys on my list have beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
Could wlad be higher maybe for the amount of belts he holds??Quote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticI know the talent in their weight class isn't their fault but it has to be taken into account when rating them P4P. I have Wladimir at 9 and Vitali just falls short on my list so i'm not completely ignoring them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeBut they have cleaned the division as its not down to them there is no competition???Quote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticWhile they have been dominant there level of competition is still weak considering who the other guys on my list have beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
As silly as it may sound
Your right, that is silly. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeCould wlad be higher maybe for the amount of belts he holds??Quote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticI know the talent in their weight class isn't their fault but it has to be taken into account when rating them P4P. I have Wladimir at 9 and Vitali just falls short on my list so i'm not completely ignoring them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeBut they have cleaned the division as its not down to them there is no competition???Quote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticWhile they have been dominant there level of competition is still weak considering who the other guys on my list have beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
As silly as it may sound
It would depend on who he won those belts against who i know weren't the best opposition.
At the end of the day, it comes down to level of competition and unforenately for Wladimir and Vitali, their competition is weak.
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Originally Posted by gest12645no offense , but i don't like this list. Cotto is too high. Marquez way way too low. Just like the poster above said, switch Ward with Bute. Mayweather should be on the list -c'mon . And how about B-Hop?Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeI would swap cotto and Marquez around and have ward instead of bute but froch above them both mainly because of his string of competition and being a 2 time WBCQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Hey, it's my fookin' list.. ;)
1.Mayweather
2.Martinez
3.Marquez
4.Pacquiao
5.Ward
6.Hopkins
7.Donaire
8.Gamboa
9.Cotto
10.W.Klit
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Originally Posted by Dropanuke
To put him above them because he's a "2-time" WBC is to reward him for losing to Kessler. Ward should be higher than Froch, but I imagine that will be fixed in a couple of weeks.
if it's because of quality of opposition and number of people faced i would put holyfield first. if it's because of quality of opposition no matter age, that is, names, i would put pacquiao first. if it's because i say it because i have to be honest with what i think then:
1 mayweather
2 vitali
3 pacman
4 marquez
5 ward
6 martinez
7 wlad
8 donaire
9 bradley
10 khan
Can't Argue with that list. Only thing I would change is take Khan out and put Vitali or Gamboa there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
I'm pretty sure they said P4P list not your favorite fighters ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina
1. Mayweather
2.Pacquiao
3.Martinez
4.Marquez
5.Donaire
6.Ward
7.Hopkins
8.Bute
9.Khan
10. W Klitschko
Because a p4p list is supposed to gauge who the best fighter would be if all fighters weighed the same. If Wlad or Vitali were Welters, how dominant do you think they'd be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
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Originally Posted by onoBecause a p4p list is supposed to gauge who the best fighter would be if all fighters weighed the same. If Wlad or Vitali were Welters, how dominant do you think they'd be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
Oooooooh ....... Vitali Vs Pacman. You know Manny loves a catchweight fight!
Seriously tho, whens the last time Mayweather, either Klit and until his last fight Manny even lost a round? Id say thats a strong reason for those 4 topping the list in whatever order you like, for me Mayweather tops it every time.
Anybody else agrees that these lists are a little more scarce on talent than they used to be just a couple of years back? Seems harder now to come up with p4p lists. IMO, the fact that an old goat like Hopkins is still floating around these lists is indicative that we desperately need some fresh (major) talent out there.... PRONTO.
I don't think these lists mean anything much, but if you're going by anything it has to be primarily who the best fighters around are, surely? To say oh Mayweather isn't on there because he doesn't fight often enough but then have Tim Bradley is pretty laughable really, as if that would even be a fight, not to mention Bradley hasn't fought anyone great or been terribly active himself.. I'm only really confident on my top 3, which is telling as to the lack of fresh blood in this sport these days as Titofan pointed out. These lists looked a lot better not to long ago.
1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Marquez
4. Agbeko
5. Martinez
6. Gamboa
7. Chad Dawson
8. Wlad Klitschko
9. Bute
10. Froch? Ward? Cotto? Khan? Hopkins? (felt he wouldn't have had many answers for Dawson and is on his last legs)
Like I say though, after the top few it really isn't an impressive list as it should be. You could change the order any which way and it wouldn't mean squat to me.