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Fighters with most underrated power
there are a few fighters who actually packed a lot more power than given credit for just due to a lack of KO wins, a few that come to mind are Whitaker, Finito Lopez, and Mayweather
what are a few others?
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Most recently, Timothy Bradley.
He lacks Knockout wins and overall is power is average but his right hand has some pop.
He was able to drop Witter, Cherry and Peterson with well placed right hands and was able to rock a natural welterweight in Abregu.
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Agree mayweathers power is underrated. I'd love to see him stand toe on toe with fighters a bit more, I personally think he would do damage.
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Bradley's a good example, any others?
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Agree mayweathers power is underrated. I'd love to see him stand toe on toe with fighters a bit more, I personally think he would do damage.
He stood in range against Mosley and Ortiz and he was brilliant.
I agree he should continue to do it except against Pacquiao. He's gotta be a counter puncher to beat Manny.
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I don't think Bradleys power is much. Any other top 140 fighter i.e. Khan, Maiadana, would have Casamayor out of there a lot quicker. He didn't really trouble such a faded fighter like Casamayor IMO.
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I don't think Bradleys power is much. Any other top 140 fighter i.e. Khan, Maiadana, would have Casamayor out of there a lot quicker. He didn't really trouble such a faded fighter like Casamayor IMO.
Bradley's power isn't great but his right hand has some good pop. It's certainy underated.
Maidana's power is very overated. He couldn't stop a shot Morales or Corley.
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Vitali very unappreciated power puncher.
Mike McCallum
Michael Nunn
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I think method and mechanics gets lost in judging power at times. One shot power is great but to me a crisp combination puncher has very simiiar power. I always think of Holyfield like that. I think his left hook was underrated.
Bradley has good pop but he gets way to right hand and left hook happy at times. Watching his fight with awkward Abregu was almost like two fight, all left hooks and then right hands. When moving and combination punching he's a main force.
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what I mean is the fighter's I mentioned had a lot more pop in their punches than what their records indicate, they just usually would compromise their power to either capitalize on their speed, or be more effective with countering shots, but all 3 really had devastating power (yes even Whitaker)
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Evander Holyfield, he was never the big 1 punch KO artist his peers were but he could put some pop in his punches. (Though he was usually aided by his head)
Bernard Hopkins, same as Evander.
Sergio Martinez, though the Williams KO was a big time power punch.
Felix Sturm, he kept De la Hoya at bay for an entire fight. Marked him up pretty bad too.
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Evander Holyfield, he was never the big 1 punch KO artist his peers were but he could put some pop in his punches. (Though he was usually aided by his head)
Bernard Hopkins, same as Evander.
Sergio Martinez, though the Williams KO was a big time power punch.
Felix Sturm, he kept De la Hoya at bay for an entire fight. Marked him up pretty bad too.
well but he's followed it up by showing he has thudding power, and the KO against Cintron backs it up as well (fuck what the record books say he KTFO Cintron and then won a UD in the same night)
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Remember Rockin Rodney Moore the guy didnt have many KOs then went on a fantastic KO run of fellow contenders.
Also Herol Graham for a safety first guy , he stopped alot of fighters , just below world level.
Second to Nunn also showed great power when he starched Sambu Kalambay in 1.
Light punching Sven Ottka showed power when he KOED Tony Mundine.
Mike Sprott also not a big puncher 1 punch KOED Fraudley Harrison.
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I don't think Bradleys power is much. Any other top 140 fighter i.e. Khan, Maiadana, would have Casamayor out of there a lot quicker. He didn't really trouble such a faded fighter like Casamayor IMO.
Bradley's power isn't great but his right hand has some good pop. It's certainy underated.
Maidana's power is very overated. He couldn't stop a shot Morales or Corley.
I wasn't too impressed to be honest. He should of had Casamayor out a lot earlier, I remember watching that fight thinking he has pretty much nothing behind his punches. He would be a lot better if he had more power. However I think Bradley is still a great champion and uses his boxing ability really well to get through fights. He doesn't nesacarly need great power to win fights, although if he did have it he would be an even tougher opponent than he already is.
Morales is a Mexican great and Manny blasted him, but Maidana isn't no manny. I don't see any fighter IMO stopping Morales at the moment at 140, not even Khan.
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What about Amir Khan?
he actually might fit the bill, he has TKO wins against Malignaggi who is known for his heart and ability to take a beating, and Judah who apart from the Tszyu fight has shown that he can take punishment, he's not necessarily a one punch KO puncher but he has good hard impact punches
Duran? Chavez Sr? Toney?
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One that always springs to mind is "Naco" Berrio...
Others are Jofre, "Chava" Sanchez, Benn, Esparragoza, Napoles & RJJ.
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One that always springs to mind is "Naco" Berrio...
Others are Jofre, "Chava" Sanchez, Benn, Esparragoza, Napoles & RJJ.
well but Jones depends which weight class you're talking about, cause at Middleweight and most of Super Middleweight he was known as an explosive puncher it was mainly after his move to LHW that the KO #'s dropped a bit
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there are a few fighters who actually packed a lot more power than given credit for just due to a lack of KO wins, a few that come to mind are Whitaker, Finito Lopez, and Mayweather
what are a few others?
75% of Lopez wins came by KO. I don't recall him ever not getting credit for his power
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there are a few fighters who actually packed a lot more power than given credit for just due to a lack of KO wins, a few that come to mind are Whitaker, Finito Lopez, and Mayweather
what are a few others?
75% of Lopez wins came by KO. I don't recall him ever not getting credit for his power
Lopez gets more credit for being a quick handed counter puncher and not so much a devastating one punch KO artist, and he had his share of them, IMO he didn't hit as hard as Carbajal but he was pretty damn close
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Khan may prove to be one... He's never been regarded as a puncher but he HAS gotten a lot stronger over the past 3-4 years and those rapid fire pitapat shots of his early days do actually carry some weight now. Plus that body shot against Maidana was beautiful. Maybe more to do with timing/placement than anything else but even so he is STIL a growning lad.
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Erik Morales' power is underrated. While I think Donaire and Cotto's overrated. Both have benefited from perfectly placed left hooks for most KO wins.
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Sergei Liakhovich and Eddie Chambers both can show some pop at times.
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At the moment Leo Santa Cruz springs to mind, that guy can really hurt you...every time he lands.
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Emile Griffith is another fighter who would fit the bill, the guy only had 23 KO's out of 85 wins but he hit like a truck
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Remember Rockin Rodney Moore the guy didnt have many KOs then went on a fantastic KO run of fellow contenders.
Also Herol Graham for a safety first guy , he stopped alot of fighters , just below world level.
Second to Nunn also showed great power when he starched Sambu Kalambay in 1.
Light punching Sven Ottka showed power when he KOED Tony Mundine.
Mike Sprott also not a big puncher 1 punch KOED Fraudley Harrison.
Agreed about Herol Graham he had the normally very sturdy, Sumbu Kalambay down twice when they met.
Another one that springs to mind is Luisito Espinosa, his KO percentage was average but look at his KO wins over Gonzalez, McKinney, and tell me that guy couldn't bang.
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I'm gonna say Zab Judah..I think he started out being known for power but was known more for being slick and fast as he progressed (and also invented new ways to get jiggy when being ko'd)...The guy has tremendous power because of his explosive speed. That uppercut and straight left used to be lethal.
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I say oscar delahoya, sweet pea, floyd mayweather, marquez, leanord
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I say oscar delahoya, sweet pea, floyd mayweather, marquez, leanord
DLH was considered to have explosive power all the way up to 140, good power at 147, then despite having almost all TKO wins at 154 his power started becoming a bit played down, he had good pop but not one punch KO pop
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I say oscar delahoya, sweet pea, floyd mayweather, marquez, leanord
DLH was considered to have explosive power all the way up to 140, good power at 147, then despite having almost all TKO wins at 154 his power started becoming a bit played down, he had good pop but not one punch KO pop
i just recall most people calling him a "good boxer" with few mentions of his punch other than perhaps the left hook, i feel like he had good stiff, hard punches that hurt guys, i honestly think if delahoya stayed focused he could have become one of the greats
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Boxer4life
I say oscar delahoya, sweet pea, floyd mayweather, marquez, leanord
DLH was considered to have explosive power all the way up to 140, good power at 147, then despite having almost all TKO wins at 154 his power started becoming a bit played down, he had good pop but not one punch KO pop
i just recall most people calling him a "good boxer" with few mentions of his punch other than perhaps the left hook, i feel like he had good stiff, hard punches that hurt guys, i honestly think if delahoya stayed focused he could have become one of the greats
he also had an underrated jab, and developed a pretty good right hand late in his career, the fact that he fought most of his career mainly relying on just his left as his power hand lets you know how much raw talent the guy had
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Boxer4life
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ElTerribleMorales
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Boxer4life
I say oscar delahoya, sweet pea, floyd mayweather, marquez, leanord
DLH was considered to have explosive power all the way up to 140, good power at 147, then despite having almost all TKO wins at 154 his power started becoming a bit played down, he had good pop but not one punch KO pop
i just recall most people calling him a "good boxer" with few mentions of his punch other than perhaps the left hook, i feel like he had good stiff, hard punches that hurt guys, i honestly think if delahoya stayed focused he could have become one of the greats
he also had an underrated jab, and developed a pretty good right hand late in his career, the fact that he fought most of his career mainly relying on just his left as his power hand lets you know how much raw talent the guy had
Oscar was a beast, he would have given maywaether and pacqiou hell in his prime
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