Some find this outrageous and insensitive.
Any thoughts?
Korean Apts. Look Like ‘Exploding Twin Towers’
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Some find this outrageous and insensitive.
Any thoughts?
Korean Apts. Look Like ‘Exploding Twin Towers’
It is just a building built a bit differently. So what if some are suggesting that it looks like the twin towers. Some people are oversensitive and should get on with their lives rather than looking for ever more ridiculous things to have a go at. There should have been no need for apologies here. Good on Korea for actually building something a bit different for once.
What is more curious is why communist Eastern Germany is the ideal for most Korean apartment buildings. Now that is the real eyesore. Every complex in the country looks exactly the same.
Architecturally they are kind of neat looking...HOWEVER they are a bad idea, very insensitive.
M.I.T's school of architecture has some cool buildings, they look like they are melting, like they came out of a Dali painting.
That other one out there on its own on the left looks cool too.
" outrageous and insensitive " lol..
It's just nice artwork.. Appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by miles
Does this mean that you would not consider an American apts. that look like 'exploding atomic bomb' as outrageous and insensitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
That would be fucking awesome and I would so live there!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Does this mean that you would not consider an American apts. that look like 'exploding atomic bomb' as outrageous and insensitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Nothing to get worked up about. If the intent was to mimic the towers then at worst its tacky. You want to talk about insensitive; a few years back at a halloween party one guy came as a tower and one as a plane and the plane chased the tower around. I'm a dick and had to stifle a laugh.
Nothing outrageous about that so no.. Like Kabong, I might live there..Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Does this mean that you would not consider an American apts. that look like 'exploding atomic bomb' as outrageous and insensitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
What's so outrageous and insensitive about it? sounds kinda gay actually, people these days. smh
There are far better reasons to get outraged man. lol How can one expect to survive in this harsh world if they are gonna get their feelings hurt and " outraged " over something like that ? It's ridiculous.
I could care less about an exploding atomic bomb.. Those japs deserved it so fuck them.
Is that for real or is it just a CGI and ever going to happen?
Looks like it wants to fall over.
They were supposed to resemble willowy clouds, but knowing how awkward clouds are, they can look like anything. I guess some are seeing exploding buildings. I think that is a little over the top really.Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlie
Hmm, questionable. Very questionable.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaNothing outrageous about that so no.. Like Kabong, I might live there..Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Does this mean that you would not consider an American apts. that look like 'exploding atomic bomb' as outrageous and insensitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
What's so outrageous and insensitive about it? sounds kinda gay actually, people these days. smh
There are far better reasons to get outraged man. lol How can one expect to survive in this harsh world if they are gonna get their feelings hurt and " outraged " over something like that ? It's ridiculous.
I could care less about an exploding atomic bomb.. Those japs deserved it so fuck them.
Some Japs were very wrong but let's not pretend that devastating entire urban areas is justified because they 'deserved it'. I'm sure most of them really didn't deserve to die like that. The Allies did a lot of horrid things in WW2 and that was the crowning moment of shame.
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Originally Posted by milesHmm, questionable. Very questionable.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaNothing outrageous about that so no.. Like Kabong, I might live there..Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Does this mean that you would not consider an American apts. that look like 'exploding atomic bomb' as outrageous and insensitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
What's so outrageous and insensitive about it? sounds kinda gay actually, people these days. smh
There are far better reasons to get outraged man. lol How can one expect to survive in this harsh world if they are gonna get their feelings hurt and " outraged " over something like that ? It's ridiculous.
I could care less about an exploding atomic bomb.. Those japs deserved it so fuck them.
Some Japs were very wrong but let's not pretend that devastating entire urban areas is justified because they 'deserved it'. I'm sure most of them really didn't deserve to die like that. The Allies did a lot of horrid things in WW2 and that was the crowning moment of shame.
Dropping the bombs on Japan saved lives FACT...it's not up for debate it is 100% FACT.
Yeah the Allies did do horrible things like the Batan Death march, using chemical weapons vs China....oh wait a second Japan did that :o
The Allies have never done anything right according to you miles and THAT attitude which is so very prevalant in the West today is why Wars are not as quick and easy as they should be, the liberals, socialists, anarchists, and generallyworthless idiots don't want to win, they see winning as a bad thing. These were the same people who took the Tet Offensive and turned it into a VC victory......which it wasn't they got the ever loving shit walloped out of them and were on the ropes when Cronkite turned his back on the war effort, War is diffcult stuff, if it was easy everyone would do it.
It killed innocent people who did no wrong. People who never signed up for the stupid fucking wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by milesHmm, questionable. Very questionable.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaNothing outrageous about that so no.. Like Kabong, I might live there..Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCornerQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Does this mean that you would not consider an American apts. that look like 'exploding atomic bomb' as outrageous and insensitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
What's so outrageous and insensitive about it? sounds kinda gay actually, people these days. smh
There are far better reasons to get outraged man. lol How can one expect to survive in this harsh world if they are gonna get their feelings hurt and " outraged " over something like that ? It's ridiculous.
I could care less about an exploding atomic bomb.. Those japs deserved it so fuck them.
Some Japs were very wrong but let's not pretend that devastating entire urban areas is justified because they 'deserved it'. I'm sure most of them really didn't deserve to die like that. The Allies did a lot of horrid things in WW2 and that was the crowning moment of shame.
Dropping the bombs on Japan saved lives FACT...it's not up for debate it is 100% FACT.
Yeah the Allies did do horrible things like the Batan Death march, using chemical weapons vs China....oh wait a second Japan did that :o
The Allies have never done anything right according to you miles and THAT attitude which is so very prevalant in the West today is why Wars are not as quick and easy as they should be, the liberals, socialists, anarchists, and generallyworthless idiots don't want to win, they see winning as a bad thing.
Nuclear bombs? The worst of all. You attack the participants and not innocent people.
And then you ramble in with a few labels of people who are not me and then suggest wars are not as easy. But they are still happening.
Mr Participant of the War Criminal capital nation in the world today. Where to find the terrorists? In Washington, that is where.
And they are not fucking facts, they are projected estimates. Those are not facts.
Operation Overlord, look it up...hell look at the casualties from Guadalcanal and Okinawa and tell me invading Japan proper would have been easy or cost less lives that the bombs.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Out of 36,200 soldiers on the ground for Japan 31,000 were KIA in Guadalcanal, only 1,000 were captured...at Okinawa a Japanese force of 117,000 men suffered north of 95,000 KIA, only between 7,400-10,755 captured and the mass suicides of the civilians which numbered somewhere between 42,000 and 150,000.
Oh but invading Japan proper (which has never been done) would have been nothing compared to the 2 bombs we dropped....I like to dream too miles, but the guilt you push off on The Allies is unwarranted and undeserved. It was war, we told Japan what we would do, we fucking showed them the tests and they took it....not once, but TWICE before surrender and yet an invasion would have saved lives eh???
The only problem with the bomb was that nobody knew about fallout and how that would affect everyone.
Dropping the bomb was the greatest crime of the last century. I suppose we could expect nothing more of a nation that bred itself on killing the natives.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOperation Overlord, look it up...hell look at the casualties from Guadalcanal and Okinawa and tell me invading Japan proper would have been easy or cost less lives that the bombs.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Out of 36,200 soldiers on the ground for Japan 31,000 were KIA in Guadalcanal, only 1,000 were captured...at Okinawa a Japanese force of 117,000 men suffered north of 95,000 KIA, only between 7,400-10,755 captured and the mass suicides of the civilians which numbered somewhere between 42,000 and 150,000.
Oh but invading Japan proper (which has never been done) would have been nothing compared to the 2 bombs we dropped....I like to dream too miles, but the guilt you push off on The Allies is unwarranted and undeserved. It was war, we told Japan what we would do, we fucking showed them the tests and they took it....not once, but TWICE before surrender and yet an invasion would have saved lives eh???
Still wrong and no excuses should ever be made for immoral and outrageous acts of wanton bloodshed.
"Hello, my name is miles and I wish I wasn't a white guy" :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by milesDropping the bomb was the greatest crime of the last century. I suppose we could expect nothing more of a nation that bred itself on killing the natives.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOperation Overlord, look it up...hell look at the casualties from Guadalcanal and Okinawa and tell me invading Japan proper would have been easy or cost less lives that the bombs.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Out of 36,200 soldiers on the ground for Japan 31,000 were KIA in Guadalcanal, only 1,000 were captured...at Okinawa a Japanese force of 117,000 men suffered north of 95,000 KIA, only between 7,400-10,755 captured and the mass suicides of the civilians which numbered somewhere between 42,000 and 150,000.
Oh but invading Japan proper (which has never been done) would have been nothing compared to the 2 bombs we dropped....I like to dream too miles, but the guilt you push off on The Allies is unwarranted and undeserved. It was war, we told Japan what we would do, we fucking showed them the tests and they took it....not once, but TWICE before surrender and yet an invasion would have saved lives eh???
Still wrong and no excuses should ever be made for immoral and outrageous acts of wanton bloodshed.
Ah, yes The United States the ONLY place EVER in the history of the world where people killed off indigenous peoples and had slaves :vd:
The fire bombing of Dresden was probably worse than ther 2 nukes, BUT once again we (and by "we" I mean "you and people like you") look at those events through the prism of the present and not as things they way they were at the time. The 20/20 Hindsight View of History is a dangerous one and it's irresponsible it brings about falsities like "The American Civil War was always and only about Slavery" or that "Dropping the bombs on Japan was horrible and it cost more lives".
You ought to know that the US Armed forces produced so many Purple Heart medals in preparation for Operation Downfall that they are still giving out the medals produced then and still have over 200,000 left to give out......oh, but it would have been more "humane" to invade rather than drop bombs.....my bad miles....I guess I'll go do my ritualized self flaggelation for my continued sin of not being an oppressed minority
Two different times with different ideas of acceptable warfare. WWII was total war. Nation vs Nation not just two nation's militaries. When the amount of bombing (particularly fire bombing) Japan's mainland had already endured w/o surrendering is viewed along with the amount of casualties the Allies had already absorbed in the Pacific and the estimated casualties from a mainland invasion it was the only decision to make. There were no easy decisions in WWII. Either way you went lots of people were going to die. Doubtful we will ever see this kind of bloodshed again but it is also unlikely you will see the kind of fascist evil that was the Japanese Empire and Third Reich. I guess you could throw in Stalin too since no one will ever get close to his body count.
There's a long list of things liberal just can't let go, some of which include: The Trail of Tears, Sacco & Vanzetti, The Rosenburgs, Christopher Colombus, The Bombing of Japan, and the fact we were indeed winning in Vietnam.....but I digress
If America folded up tomorrow those liberal bastards would be happy for about 2 seconds before they realized how great they had it......subversive little shits
I literally could not care less about your and Miles argument, but the issue about the atomic bomb is not nearly so black and white.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOperation Overlord, look it up...hell look at the casualties from Guadalcanal and Okinawa and tell me invading Japan proper would have been easy or cost less lives that the bombs.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Out of 36,200 soldiers on the ground for Japan 31,000 were KIA in Guadalcanal, only 1,000 were captured...at Okinawa a Japanese force of 117,000 men suffered north of 95,000 KIA, only between 7,400-10,755 captured and the mass suicides of the civilians which numbered somewhere between 42,000 and 150,000.
Oh but invading Japan proper (which has never been done) would have been nothing compared to the 2 bombs we dropped....I like to dream too miles, but the guilt you push off on The Allies is unwarranted and undeserved. It was war, we told Japan what we would do, we fucking showed them the tests and they took it....not once, but TWICE before surrender and yet an invasion would have saved lives eh???
The only problem with the bomb was that nobody knew about fallout and how that would affect everyone.
Japan was in extreme turmoil near the end of the war. I believe one leadership coup of sorts had already been attempted and I also believe the governing body was split regarding whether or not to surrender or keep fighting. I know a lot of historians feel that Japan would have given up without the bombs being dropped. If highly educated professionals feel that way, it certainly isn't '100% fact'.
That being said, the nuclear bombs were no worse than the firebombings that the Allies had been using against both the Japanese and the Germans, it's just the nature of the bomb itself and the age which it ushered in which are so shocking.
Liberals also never take into account that nukes are more than likely reason #1 the Cold War stayed cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Maybe, maybe not. That's not something which can be easily proven. Even so, it still came pretty close to outright war on a couple of occasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongLiberals also never take into account that nukes are more than likely reason #1 the Cold War stayed cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
To make a sweeping generalization - neither country really wanted to go to war with one another, even without nukes the death tolls would have like made WW2 look like a tea party (alibeit a genocidal one :p).
Well the US made plans to get Germany back on it's feet, get those soldiers and Panzers, and plow on through Moscow....never materialized, but it WAS on the table. The only thing I could think of that would have been a deterrant either way was the threat of nuclear attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
What time period are you talking about? The Russians didn't even have the bomb, let alone large stockpiles, until 1949.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWell the US made plans to get Germany back on it's feet, get those soldiers and Panzers, and plow on through Moscow....never materialized, but it WAS on the table. The only thing I could think of that would have been a deterrant either way was the threat of nuclear attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
One thing that I found incredibly interesting when I was studying American history was the ways in which domestic attitudes towards the Soviets changed over the course of the war. Prior to 1943/44, they were depicted as heroes and there was a lot of good will felt towards them by most Americans. It ended up changing very dramatically in a very short period of time.
FDR's mancrush on Stalin had worn off by then. The fact that the whole thing kicked off over Poland and by the end everyone knew Poland was just trading murderous despots I think it left a bad taste in many people's mouths.
Hell I've heard people liberated from Nazi prison camps say the Nazis treated them better than the SovietsQuote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlie
Operation Unthinkable - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well wikipedia says it was a British plan, but I know full well Patton had wanted to drive on through the USSR, granted Patton was the Mad Dog General that Ike kept on a short leash, but everyone knew the Soviets were going to be a threat post WW2.
I've read maybe 10-12 books on the European theater so I was skeptical when my old man gave me a copy of Armageddon by Max Hastings. It is truly one of the most detailed and objective accounts I've ever read and highly recommend it to WWII buffs. Unlike Ambrose or other British writers Hastings is in no way a Allies cheerleader or Montgomery groupie. He is very critical of the Allies war effort and has incorporated an unbelievable amount of first hand accounts. After reading this it is very clear to me that the Soviets won the war and the rest of the allies just provided a distraction to Germany. It also leaves no doubt in my mind that a continuation of the war against the USSR would have been disastrous. Lyle I've also done a lot of reading on Vietnam. If it interests you pick up Bright Shining Lie. Hands down best book I've read on it.
History has shown that attacking the USSR (at least from the west) is not the brightest of ideas (Japan had great success against them in the East, so much so it was one of the main causes of the Bolshevik Revolution). However, attacking Russia from the east means you've got loads of ground to capture and hold until you start squeezing their forces and the places you're holding are almost uninhabitable. The Allies didn't have the money or the manpower to continue the war effort at that point in time and as they waited, the Ruskies got the bomb so it was a moot point by then.Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlie
The Soviets had the ONLY tank capable of handling the Panzers, the Sherman tanks were effective only due to their numbers (and Patton at the helm). The T-34's were very solid.
I'll have to check that Vietnam War book out
Not really surprising; Koreans are known as rude brutes all over Asia. They've been coming here in swarms last couple years to learn English and many Pinoys have been annoyed by their boorish ways, tending to get physical sometimes. But I always tell our pinoy folks that we ain't much better ourselves and so we're starting to get along pretty well.;D;)Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
There are two type of Koreans.. The ones who are well off come to the U.S. and the other group go to the Philipines cuz everything is cheap over there.. Know what i mean.. KOreans change their moneys to pacels in the philipines and they could live like a king so lot of them be going over there nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfanNot really surprising; Koreans are known as rude brutes all over Asia. They've been coming here in swarms last couple years to learn English and many Pinoys have been annoyed by their boorish ways, tending to get physical sometimes. But I always tell our pinoy folks that we ain't much better ourselves and so we're starting to get along pretty well.;D;)Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
You are a filipino dude so u can't be talking shit about your superiors.. There is a reason why filipinos adopt Korean dramas, tv shows etc etc ya wanna be like us so bad but u can't.. lol
South Korea= Wealthy Nation
Philipines= 3rd world country
See what i mean, know your place before you talk that shit... Dont be judging, foo..
Before you talk about Koreans being obnoxious, look at your own people cuz ya are worst... FACT
Yall all look alike to me ;D
lol can't really disagree with that cuz that's what we say about blacks and white folks too..Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Philipinos dont look asian though so u should know the difference.. They are usually much darker and shorter due to malnutrition..
Koreans do have a bad reputation in other Asian countries. There is no denying that. Sex tourism is a problem and the Philippines has a growing number of half Korean fatherless kids to deal with. It doesn't help that public schools teach racist ideals from a very young age. The hatred for Japan is awful. Imagine everyone still hating the Germans with such vitriol. Flat out racism and an inability to move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaThere are two type of Koreans.. The ones who are well off come to the U.S. and the other group go to the Philipines cuz everything is cheap over there.. Know what i mean.. KOreans change their moneys to pacels in the philipines and they could live like a king so lot of them be going over there nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacfanNot really surprising; Koreans are known as rude brutes all over Asia. They've been coming here in swarms last couple years to learn English and many Pinoys have been annoyed by their boorish ways, tending to get physical sometimes. But I always tell our pinoy folks that we ain't much better ourselves and so we're starting to get along pretty well.;D;)Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner
You are a filipino dude so u can't be talking shit about your superiors.. There is a reason why filipinos adopt Korean dramas, tv shows etc etc ya wanna be like us so bad but u can't.. lol
South Korea= Wealthy Nation
Philipines= 3rd world country
See what i mean, know your place before you talk that shit... Dont be judging, foo..
Before you talk about Koreans being obnoxious, look at your own people cuz ya are worst... FACT
Furthermore, though developed, Korea still has its own problems with wealth inequalities. The elite are doing very well, but the bulk of the middle class is based upon credit and could get swallowed up at any time. I actually encourage a property collapse as I have been sensible and don't live beyond my means. But if that does happen and it could well do so this year, then I wouldn't be so quick to mock the living standards of Philippines.
Korea is developed, but the vast majority are teetering on a knife edge. Nice apartment, big car but nothing in the bank.
And only fools like K pop or Korean dramas, they are awful and full of people with daft hair do's and butchered faces.
Regardless of the current economy, korea and philipines are nothing alike.
I hope u can make gather up enough money to get out of korea ,miles. there is no reason to live in a country u love to criticize so much.
and it's easy for a third party like u to talk about forgiveness . If your family didnt suffer from the japanese occupation, u cant speak on it.
Its simple. U dont like korea, dont live there..
I have no intentions of leaving, it is just as much my country as yours believe it or not. I like Korea, but see no problems criticizing problem areas. And yes I can speak on the Japanese occupation as I am more informed on the issue more than most Koreans. Europeans don't have their children drawing hate pictures of Germany, so the Koreans can get over it too. It's a spiteful and xenophobic thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
I shall retire here and grow potatoes. Will you?
I criticize wrongdoing wherever it may be and I see nothing particularly hostile in hoping for a depreciation in housing prices . They are well out of wack here.
And as for those hideous television shows and the generic music. The other threads show that I have little time for teen girls doing absurd dances whilst miming or for low brow television. It's just not very good. Too much crying and screeching in both the TV and the music.
I'm an opinionated sort and I shall always be so and on whatever topic that I feel necessary to devour.
And the Philippines and Korea are very similar. They are full of people who are trying to live their lives. Just like in any country. What kind of person thinks they are superior to a Filipino because they are poor? That is a disgusting attitude to have and you should feel ashamed of yourself for having said it and to then have the cheek to have a go at me for saying a few off hand comments about Korean TV.
You are outrageous. :rolleyes: