Re: Team Roach code cracked?
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Boxer4life
Last night fight i noticed Khan comes in alot like pacqiou, of course not quite as good but same principle. Lamont gave him trouble because of great footwork, amazing head movement and counters, but after a few rounds lamont started chasing him, and thats when the fight got more "competitive" if you will, lamont would win on the inside but khan was great on the in and out, much like pacqiou. Point being lamont would have done better if he stuck to the gameplan, maybe even knocked khan out. I have noticed the same thing with pacqiou, if a guy has footwork and head movement, it makes it very hard to land his 3-11 punch combos, and look impressive, or do damage. I think its the solution to pacman and khan, both should stay away from floyd, kos and tkos written all over those fights.
that's why we want to see them ;D
Re: Team Roach code cracked?
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Howlin Mad Missy
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Originally Posted by
Boxer4life
Last night fight i noticed Khan comes in alot like pacqiou, of course not quite as good but same principle. Lamont gave him trouble because of great footwork, amazing head movement and counters, but after a few rounds lamont started chasing him, and thats when the fight got more "competitive" if you will, lamont would win on the inside but khan was great on the in and out, much like pacqiou. Point being lamont would have done better if he stuck to the gameplan, maybe even knocked khan out. I have noticed the same thing with pacqiou, if a guy has footwork and head movement, it makes it very hard to land his 3-11 punch combos, and look impressive, or do damage. I think its the solution to pacman and khan, both should stay away from floyd, kos and tkos written all over those fights.
that's why we want to see them ;D
haha good point
Re: Team Roach code cracked?
It must be part of the training at the Wildcard Gym to make fighters put their arms up in the air like an idiot after they have been punched in the face. Pacquiao does it, and now Khan is doing it too. What is the point of it? :confused:
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Who has the better chance against floyd ? khan or pacman and how do you think a khan vs pacman who end up?
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g3org3
Who has the better chance against floyd ? khan or pacman and how do you think a khan vs pacman who end up?
I def thing pacman, khan will get koed easy!!! maybe even 2nd round, pacqiou is much better at being pacqiou with a much better chin, khan is becoming a poor pacman impression, and pacqiou will ko him, i dont think he should be in the discussion with floyd or manny
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Oggie
It must be part of the training at the Wildcard Gym to make fighters put their arms up in the air like an idiot after they have been punched in the face. Pacquiao does it, and now Khan is doing it too. What is the point of it? :confused:
yeah i dont get it either, pacqiou does it to hype himself up, perhaps shake it off, khan is just being a poor mini me
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The code is to move your head, use a little footwork and counter. Both Pac and khan can't fight on the inside they just cover up but khan is completely clueless when he gets close.
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Is McEwan still with Roach? If so...McEwan, Linares and Khan have all lost in recent months, Pacquiao probably should have lost and Kavanagh was uber lucky last night as well O_O
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El Kabong
...One would assume after having seen these shortcomings Floyd would be jumping at the chance to fight Pacquiao, but alas Floyd still holds out. Why?
Perhaps because Pac has to make a lot of mistakes and Floyd just has to make one?
"Floyd still holds out"?!!! Let me take a wild guess...you are a PAC fan. Floyd has stated he wants the fight in May. Yet Manny's daddy Bob Arum is doing his best to derail it.
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El Kabong
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zhubin
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El Kabong
...One would assume after having seen these shortcomings Floyd would be jumping at the chance to fight Pacquiao, but alas Floyd still holds out. Why?
Perhaps because Pac has to make a lot of mistakes and Floyd just has to make one?
"Floyd still holds out"?!!! Let me take a wild guess...you are a PAC fan. Floyd has stated he wants the fight in May. Yet Manny's daddy Bob Arum is doing his best to derail it.
I don't care one way or another, as a boxing fan I just want to see the fight!
I would like to see Mayweather get KO'd eventually.....I don't care who does it. I'm not a "Pactard" though.
I think we all want to see this fight. It's easy to put the blame only on one party...but it takes two to tango. And clearly Arum is trying to squirm out of this fight in May. As far as someone KOing Mayweather...it's not going to be Pac ;)
Re: Team Roach code cracked?
This thread should read "Team Roach Exposed" - TBH I never saw the big deal in Freddie. Don't get me wrong, yeah he's worked with 10's of former world champions blah blah blah but for me it's a combination of his incredible story, his fighters hyping him and him hyping himself. That team's strongest point is marketing themselves to look like a million bucks.
Personally, I think it all boils down to which trainer the fighter clicks with (To bring the best out of that fighters style) which makes Freddie no better or worse than some of the other world class trainers out there.
On the flip side, he can't be blamed for Khan being a wanker..that's Khan's achievment all by himself ;)
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I think it's been shown already that shots up the middle and inside crowd fighting are the bane of Roach fighters. It's not just Khan but Pacquiao that likes to stand there with their hands in one position taking shots up the middle and seems to go into a turtle when pressured. If you let them get off on you they are gonna look spectacular, if you know how to move your head and counter in between their shots you give them some issues. Lamont caught Khan with some beautiful counter left hooks. Pacquiao and Khan when trying to go off on the inside tend to forget defense and can be countered, it just takes the guts to actually remain calm and do it. Which is why Marquez always does well against Pacquiao and why Peterson gave Khan fits.
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It's SIMILAR to when Enzo Calzaghe had 3 world champions and got trainer of the year back in 07. Then joe retired, gavin rees lost and macranelli got KO'd. Freddie is the better trainer and will bounce back I'm just saying trainers have their highs and lows and enzo was the first example that came to my head of someone doing well then not so well.
