Assuming that Cotto can still go down in weight to say 144 which may be tough for him but if he could what do you guys think about a fight with JMM based on both their last performances??
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Assuming that Cotto can still go down in weight to say 144 which may be tough for him but if he could what do you guys think about a fight with JMM based on both their last performances??
I dont think Cotto can make the weight, but if he can i would like to watch it. They both looked good last time out, but i think the size might be a little to much for JMM. The way he countered Pac all night long though, i wouldnt count him out.
I don't think Cotto can make that weight, if he could make it with out being drained then it will be a good fight. Cotto might be a little too strong for JMM and JMM doesn't have the power to keep Cotto away. But you can never count a smart fighter out Marquez might just box and counter all night.
Marquez would outbox him easily.. Ive been talking about this fight with my Rican buddy for years now and he even admits it..
It'll be a good fight for the first half of the fight. But Marquez will make whatever adjustment necessary and proceed to break him down. Stopping him in 10. Cotto is a good fighter. Marquez is a great fighter.
The JMM that came in against Pac looked like he could carry alittle more weight on his frame, biggest I have ever seen JMM while still looking pretty ripped, can he be effective at 147??
I think JMM can outbox Cotto but with the power Cotto carries I think he can knock JMM down early in the fight but the longer that the fight goes I see that benefitting JMM although I dont htink he would have the power to take out Cotto maybe a late stoppage on cuts for JMM or SD victory
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I think this is a very interesting fight. Marquez just nicks it in terms of boxing skills and brains. A lot of you are underestimating his power too. I think he could do some damage to Cotto if he catches him with those big counter shots and straight rights down the pipe.
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I think you are right kind of. I dont think its necessarily that he has great power it just that his timing is perfect, his punch placement, and usually like you said its a counter shot that an opponent doesnt see coming
I guess I'm in the minority here but I think Cotto would beat Marquez by being physical with him and imposing his size.
Cotto would outbox JMM but would be crazy to try and go down to welterweight.
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Outbox him? I think Cotto would win by size and strength but outbox? :rolleyes:
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You thought he looked like he could carry more weight? I found the disparity between his leg size and upper body a little wierd looking, so top heavy.
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You thought he looked like he could carry more weight? I found the disparity between his leg size and upper body a little wierd looking, so top heavy.
True but alot of fighters have very skinny legs, if he worked on getting his lower body bigger and stronger that is where the last 3 pounds could be made up.
Cotto is too big and too rough for JMM. JMM is great, but Cotto has a good style to handle him.
On paper it's a great style and persona contrast but don't like Cotto melting down or Marquez pushing north. Size, that simple. Then again I hated him at Jr welter all along and he hung with Pac, again, just fine. Just don't like the size, and Cotto can box with power.
I'd be rooting for Cotto, of course. But I'm also a big fan of JMM and have always respected his great boxing abilities. To me it depends on the weight. If Cotto were willing to make 147, it would be a very interesting and action-packed fight. Any lower than that, Cotto would be weight-drained and it would play right into JMM's hands. Any higher (than 147)... and JMM has not shown the ability to dominate at the higher weights. Cotto would win. At 147, it would be a toss-up. The Cotto that gave Margarito a boxing lesson would present all sorts of problems to JMM. But who knows?
I think Marquez would beat Cotton in a very handily fashion. Either on the outside countering Cottoz head off or on the inside with a ton of short rightz and uppercutz.
Frankly, I don't see why not. Cotto v. Margarito II allegedly sold 550k ppv's. I imagine Cotto v. JMM could do the same. They would make a lot of $ on it. It's a weight issue probably.
i think it would depend on the weight. at a catchweight of 145lbs i think it would be even. below 145 i would have to favor jmm. can cotto even make 144lbs? 146lbs and above i would lean towards cotto.
Suddenly JMM is a top welterweight because he caused Pac Man so much trouble, it could be just that he has his number and maybe could not live with any other top rated welterweight.
The only two losses on Cottos resume are from fighters that pressured him and made him fight hard every minute of every round. Marquez is a patient counter puncher and I don't think he's strong enough to wear Cotto with just a counter here and there. I would pick Cotto to win
Cotto's size and strength would have more of an impact if he still based his attack around left hooks to the body.
Marquez stands a better chance against the new headhunter-crazy Cotto.
Both men are not spring chickens anymore so this business with gaining and losing weight can cause someone to only do this type of road work, Sprints to the kitchen, to the couch and back to the kitchen because t one point all these catch weights will make the fighters sick on fight night especially in your thirties.
Who is the last stick-and-move fighter (as Cotto has become) that JMM has beaten or even fought (besides Mayweather)? Chris John, maybe (against whom he also lost)?
He's always good against come-forward fighters but I'm not sure that translates at all. He's had very good matchmaking over the past several years.
And agreed that size is a huge issue. Cotto wins at 147 but has to starve himself weak to fight any lower.
I'd pay to watch it at 147 though.
Cotto-JMM at 147 or 140 years ago would have been great, but right now even after the 3rd fight vs Pacquiao, JMM's style doesn't match well for Cotto's.
Cotto has lost to: pressure & wraps, and overwhelming speed....that's it
Cotto has a solid jab, is a good aggressive boxer, has tremendous power, and he's a physical fighter, that doesn't bode well for JMM