Canelo vs Shane Mosley reportedly a done deal for April 21.

So it is being reported in most boxing sites that Canelo and Mosley are close to reaching a deal to fight on April 21... What are your thoughts on this fight?

According to insider sources, a deal is close to being finalized for WBC Jr Middlweight Champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez to fight former multi-division world champion and boxing legend 'Sugar' Shane Mosley.
If he's not selected as Floyd Mayweather's May 5th opponent, 'Canelo' Alvarez will defend his title April 21st at Staple Center in Los Angeles, CA.

Shane Mosley, 40, turned pro in eighteen years ago and has defeated the likes of Phillip Holiday, John John Molina, Jesse James Leija, Wilfredo Rivera, Oscar De La Hoya, Fernando Vargas and Antonio Margarito, winning world titles at lightweight, welterweight and jr middleweight.

But despite his impressive credentials, Mosley has failed to impress in his last three bouts against Floyd Mayweather Jr, Sergio Mora and Manny Pacquiao. Mosley lost lopsided decisions to Mayweather and Pacquiao and drew with Mora.

Mosley's last scintillating performance, a title-winning domination of Antonio Margarito, took place nearly three years ago in January 2009.

Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez, 21, is the current WBC jr middleweight champion and the youngest reigning world champion in boxing. The undefeated Alvarez had a breakout year in 2011, leaving little doubt he's a serious fighter to be reckoned with by winning a wide decision over Matthew Hatton and knocking out Kermit Cintron, Alfonso Gomez and Ryan Rhodes.

The hard-punching James Kirkland (30-1, 27 KO) is the other fighter being considered as a possible April 21st opponent for Alvarez. Fresh off his thrilling stoppage of Alfredo Angulo, Kirkland will step in the ring with the dangerous Carlos Molina on January 28, on HBO.


Shane Mosley vs Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez on April 21st ?

I know mosley hasn't been KO'd but I have a feeling Canelo will do it.

Inevitable outcome...

I'd much rather see Canelo fight Kirkland or someone else, but a fight with Mosley, who does well against Latino fighters would be interesting.

I'd rather Canelo fought Kirkland but Mosley needs the money so I wouldn't mind him in there.

Cant see much hope for Mosley here, will have been inactive for a while.

Relentless pressure will force a stoppage but will be against the shell of a legend. Will still do wonders for Canelos confidence though and bring him on.

I'll be the first to pick Canelo to defeat Cotto and Martinez at 154. I'm not giving Shane a chance! But we all counted Shane out against Margarito.

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Originally Posted by Ant Live

I'll be the first to pick Canelo to defeat Cotto and Martinez at 154. I'm not giving Shane a chance! But we all counted Shane out against Margarito.

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That was a different Shane and a discovered margarito so it was ok to have counted him out in way but now it's definetly ok to count him out after Mora Pac and May made him look like poo

with how stacked 154 is right now, disappointing doesn't even begin to describe what this fight really is, Canelo needs to stop picking up has beens and fight an actual live body at 154, hell even fighting a used up Williams would have been a bigger risk than this, fighting Mosley isn't much different than fighting Cintron at this point

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Originally Posted by Ant Live

I'll be the first to pick Canelo to defeat Cotto and Martinez at 154. I'm not giving Shane a chance! But we all counted Shane out against Margarito.

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IMO Canelo gets schooled by Cotto and Martinez, only way he beats Martinez is if he doesn't make 154 without draining himself

The careful evil genius match making of Canelo's career is enough to make me fucking puke...

Feasting on the corpses of Cintron and Mosley.

I hope Mosley turns back the clock and pulls another Collazo/Margarito and shocks everyone.

Everyone seems to be dismissing Mosley because of his previous 2 loses. But the man's last fight was Pac and one before Mora was Mayweather. Now sure the Mora performance was really bad, but other than that we can't dismiss him because he lost to the two top dogs of the sport. It was 4 fights ago that he knock Margarito the fuck out. Sure he's not the same young prime Mosley but it's like all of a sudden a problem for Canelo to fight him but it was cool when Floyd and Pac did. :confused:

I might be biased because I'm a Canelo fan but come on the kid is only 21 and if he and his team had it their way they would be fighting Mayweather... After this fight he should take on Kirkland though.

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Originally Posted by outspoken

Everyone seems to be dismissing Mosley because of his previous 2 loses. But the man's last fight was Pac and one before Mora was Mayweather. Now sure the Mora performance was really bad, but other than that we can't dismiss him because he lost to the two top dogs of the sport. It was 4 fights ago that he knock Margarito the fuck out. Sure he's not the same young prime Mosley but it's like all of a sudden a problem for Canelo to fight him but it was cool when Floyd and Pac did. :confused:

I might be biased because I'm a Canelo fan but come on the kid is only 21 and if he and his team had it their way they would be fighting Mayweather... After this fight he should take on Kirkland though.

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it's not a bash on Canelo, if it were Berto taking on Mosley right now he would be getting criticism as well, he's getting flack for it not because Mosley lost to Mayweather and Pacquiao, rather more so to how he looked in both fights, he was slow, lethargic, and not even willing to let his hands go, what makes you think he's going to do so with a larger, stronger, younger opponent? the Margarito win was almost 3 yrs ago and it's clear that that is gonna go down as Mosley's last great performance

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Originally Posted by outspoken

Everyone seems to be dismissing Mosley because of his previous 2 loses. But the man's last fight was Pac and one before Mora was Mayweather. Now sure the Mora performance was really bad, but other than that we can't dismiss him because he lost to the two top dogs of the sport. It was 4 fights ago that he knock Margarito the fuck out. Sure he's not the same young prime Mosley but it's like all of a sudden a problem for Canelo to fight him but it was cool when Floyd and Pac did. :confused:

I might be biased because I'm a Canelo fan but come on the kid is only 21 and if he and his team had it their way they would be fighting Mayweather... After this fight he should take on Kirkland though.

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You have a good point. Mosley is no push over. He has a good chance against Alvarez. I think people are irritated because he has been inactive for a while and does not seem as relevant as the others currently in the top of the devision.
I personally would like to see him fight either Kirkland, Cotto or Margarito.
If Alvarez beats Cotto and another one of the two I have mentioned I would have him move up to middle weight and fight Martinez.
That would be my plan. He needs to prove himself against the top in the devision before he moves up to fight Martinez.

When's Mosley going to stop getting these pay days!he's just going to go into this fight in survival mode from the off.av got a feeling he could maybe get stopped this time! This fight is purely just to give canelo a so called big name on this record. A want to c this guy tested. Give us a competitive match up kirkland or even Chavez junior.

Hope Shane wins this but will lose, but hope he pulls the victory, if he does not then Shane should really call it a day. Losing to the 2 best p4p fighters is not a bad thing but losing to a rising and limited contender is.

This will be like the young nephew beating up his dear uncle who drinks too much and still thinks he can relive his glory on a family holiday. Oscar cooking up a doozie.

I don't agree with the sentiment here at all. Against pbf and pacquiao, Mosley couldn't get off because he knew what was coming back at him plus both of those guys could just dominate in whatever range they wanted. Against mora, mora just didn't want it and fought a 'negative' fight and got a criminal draw for his efforts. Canelo has become a better boxer but is still super young and super green. Mosley has freakish strength for someone his size and will in no way be bullied over. If Mosley has anything left to give, Alvarez would be the perfect showcase opponent. He's refined his defense but he's still very flatfooted, very deliberate and if Mosley can keep him from working in combination a la margarito then he poses a real big threat. I'm not even sure the Mosley from the margarito and mayweather fights are all to different from one another. I think it's all about the styles. <br />
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Alvarez is what, 22 years old? Do not write off Shane Mosley. Not in this fight.

Canelo still a work in progress, fighter to me he may be a champ, but I feel
he will walk throe Mosley, and Shane is no were the great fighter he once was.?
Pity Mosley, need's the money but he is way past his best, in the fight with Floyd,
I feel did carry him Floyd , could have KO him any time in that fight.
Most of you may think me being to hard on Shane, but as the saying go's money
talk's bullshit walk's, Shane get's his money, Canelo get's his Victoria.?;D

I like Canelo, this will be a good test for him, Mosley will have a bit of extra weight which could help him at this stage of his career, its a shame Shanes turned into a bit of a gate keeper but if he needs the money who are we to deny him another reasonable pay day.

I have Mosley in this one if it goes down.

Mosley hasn't looked good in his last three fights but it should be taken into account that two of those fights were against two of the best fighters in the sport ( Mayweather and Pacquiao) and Sergio Mora caused Mosley problems because of his size advantage and good movement.

I don't think Canelo poses any of the problems for Mosley plus he works into Mosley's style because he's not much of a boxer and he's hittable.

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

I have Mosley in this one if it goes down.

Mosley hasn't looked good in his last three fights but it should be taken into account that two of those fights were against two of the best fighters in the sport ( Mayweather and Pacquiao) and Sergio Mora caused Mosley problems because of his size advantage and good movement.

I don't think Canelo poses any of the problems for Mosley plus he works into Mosley's style because he's not much of a boxer and he's hittable.

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Yup, that's exactly what I posted here man. Glad someone sees it the same way, Pacquiao and Mayweather are all time greats and even though Mora was a bad performance for Shane I still feel he won that fight.

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

I have Mosley in this one if it goes down.

Mosley hasn't looked good in his last three fights but it should be taken into account that two of those fights were against two of the best fighters in the sport ( Mayweather and Pacquiao) and Sergio Mora caused Mosley problems because of his size advantage and good movement.

I don't think Canelo poses any of the problems for Mosley plus he works into Mosley's style because he's not much of a boxer and he's hittable.

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I see what you are thinking, about with Mosley, but don't you think he is past his best and he himself
is very hittable, Canelo bit to fresh, and I feel he will punch to hard for Shane.?:)

To the poster who said canelo is " super green ", you couldnt be more wrong..


Canelo is not " super green ".. He's ready for the elites..

I just don't think so. It wasn't that long ago that he got rocked by Jose cotto. Ok so he's not super green but he's certainly not a finished product by any means. I just think this is a bad style match up for Alvarez.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

To the poster who said canelo is " super green ", you couldnt be more wrong..


Canelo is not " super green ".. He's ready for the elites..

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He looked terrible vs Gomez until the gift stoppage.

Agreed. I actually thought that was good matchmaking because I do feel that Alvarez would have eventually stopped Gomez but gomez would still frustrate him early. As far as Mosley has fallen, he is 100 times the fighter of Gomez still. I think I would pick Mosley here.

I want nothing more than to see Mosley turn back the clock and expose the holes in Canelos game...taking jabs, fast hands with volume, and someone who is brought in to not play a foil...etc, but I just don't know with Mosley anymore with his mentality over last three. Style wise Canelo is not the boxers boxer Mayweather and Pac are but I didn't like Shanes level of 'acceptance' in there. He didn't pounce on a shook and drunk Mayweather, instead he settled and tried to box or out speed him, with Manny he just settled and while I'll never question his heart...I'll most certainly question his fire & volume at this point in career, not to mention the chatter of getting out at some point in corner?! His jab is MIA and has that ever so present pattern of step in, step in, throw away jab, loaaad up! His chin is intact, he still has pop but this is the epitome of a massive crossroads fight with great name past stars vs overly pushed prospects/investments and one big promotional family event. You may actually see Canelo put on a boxing show early of his own with some substantial body work keeping an aged and somewhat predictable Mosley stationary and feeling it as it goes. I just don't think Mosley has the combo hand speed and feet anymore to school a kid who still looks to be there for it at times. Chin...check....experience....check but in this rare case, I favor youth :-X

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

I have Mosley in this one if it goes down.

Mosley hasn't looked good in his last three fights but it should be taken into account that two of those fights were against two of the best fighters in the sport ( Mayweather and Pacquiao) and Sergio Mora caused Mosley problems because of his size advantage and good movement.

I don't think Canelo poses any of the problems for Mosley plus he works into Mosley's style because he's not much of a boxer and he's hittable.

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Yup, that's exactly what I posted here man. Glad someone sees it the same way, Pacquiao and Mayweather are all time greats and even though Mora was a bad performance for Shane I still feel he won that fight.

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My problem is less with Mosley himself than, as ElTerrible said above, there are just so many better choices. He had showcase fights against Gomez and Cintron and because of those victories most have him ranked in the top 5 of the division yet he is hasn't faced one person in the top ten! I like Alvarez's potential but that is the definition of overrated. Consider that Kirkland (beat Angulo recently) and Molina (beat Lara imo) are squaring off in their next fight while Alvarez is fighting Shane Mosley and Alvarez is ranked higher than either of them! :frown:

Now is time to face a live body in the top ten of the division. For example, face someone like Vanes Martirosyan, K9, Dzinziruk, all of whom he would be favored to beat. It's time to earn his stripes. How long will he be coddled?

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Agreed. I actually thought that was good matchmaking because I do feel that Alvarez would have eventually stopped Gomez but gomez would still frustrate him early. As far as Mosley has fallen, he is 100 times the fighter of Gomez still. I think I would pick Mosley here.

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What has Mosley done to earn this shot? He has lost or drew in his last three fights and in two of those fights many fans complained because Mosley just came to survive. Recall that Pacquiao got a ton of crap for facing Mosley after Mosley's performance against Mayweather and Mora. So, now it is ok for Canelo to face him? It doesn't make sense.

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Agreed. I actually thought that was good matchmaking because I do feel that Alvarez would have eventually stopped Gomez but gomez would still frustrate him early. As far as Mosley has fallen, he is 100 times the fighter of Gomez still. I think I would pick Mosley here.

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What has Mosley done to earn this shot? He has lost or drew in his last three fights and in two of those fights many fans complained because Mosley just came to survive. Recall that Pacquiao got a ton of crap for facing Mosley after Mosley's performance against Mayweather and Mora. So, now it is ok for Canelo to face him? It doesn't make sense.

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I'm not really excited about this fight at all but are you seriously putting Canelo on the same level as Pacquiao and Mayweather? there's a big difference in Pacquiao picking Mosley as an opponent and Canelo doing the same, only thing in common is that neither guy should get much credit for the win and neither will

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Agreed. I actually thought that was good matchmaking because I do feel that Alvarez would have eventually stopped Gomez but gomez would still frustrate him early. As far as Mosley has fallen, he is 100 times the fighter of Gomez still. I think I would pick Mosley here.

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What has Mosley done to earn this shot? He has lost or drew in his last three fights and in two of those fights many fans complained because Mosley just came to survive. Recall that Pacquiao got a ton of crap for facing Mosley after Mosley's performance against Mayweather and Mora. So, now it is ok for Canelo to face him? It doesn't make sense.

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I'm not really excited about this fight at all but are you seriously putting Canelo on the same level as Pacquiao and Mayweather? there's a big difference in Pacquiao picking Mosley as an opponent and Canelo doing the same, only thing in common is that neither guy should get much credit for the win and neither will

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I'm not putting him on that level at all. I don't think Canelo or anyone on that level of popularity should be facing Mosley at this point until Mosley has a good outing. My main point was that Mosley hasn't earned this shot. He hasn't made good fights recently. In fact, the opposite is true.

This is more a case of competitive promotion rather than competitive match making. It's maketing...that's it, and it's a case of all parties being far too familiar. Canelo is getting a name scalp here and he'll have ties and mentions among greats and elite. I think Mosley has excepted the role of stepping stone. I'm not slagging him but this is about making bank and packaging. Cynical, yeh maybe.

Great match for Canelo....just the right amount of age on Shane. Alvarez may be the 2nd to drop and 1st to stop Shane.....IF he fights correctly. Shane is still dangerous, sure he lost big time to Floyd and Manny but those guys are 1 &2 P4P, let's not act like Shane is all of a sudden a total bum.

It should be a good competitive fight, have we seen Canelo take a punch from anyone like Shane yet? Deal with handspeed? A good solid vet with a solid chin? It will be a good fight.

I just don't see this as a competitive fight and think there were better options out there. I see this as just a bigger promotion and a name to get on Canelo's resume.

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Great match for Canelo....just the right amount of age on Shane. Alvarez may be the 2nd to drop and 1st to stop Shane.....IF he fights correctly. Shane is still dangerous, sure he lost big time to Floyd and Manny but those guys are 1 &2 P4P, let's not act like Shane is all of a sudden a total bum.

It should be a good competitive fight, have we seen Canelo take a punch from anyone like Shane yet? Deal with handspeed? A good solid vet with a solid chin? It will be a good fight.

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he'd be the 3rd to drop him. Forrest was 1st Pacquiao was 2nd

Mosley will be in it for a round or two, then if the going gets tough he'll enter survival mode

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Originally Posted by amat

I don't agree with the sentiment here at all. Against pbf and pacquiao, Mosley couldn't get off because he knew what was coming back at him plus both of those guys could just dominate in whatever range they wanted. Against mora, mora just didn't want it and fought a 'negative' fight and got a criminal draw for his efforts. Canelo has become a better boxer but is still super young and super green. Mosley has freakish strength for someone his size and will in no way be bullied over. If Mosley has anything left to give, Alvarez would be the perfect showcase opponent. He's refined his defense but he's still very flatfooted, very deliberate and if Mosley can keep him from working in combination a la margarito then he poses a real big threat. I'm not even sure the Mosley from the margarito and mayweather fights are all to different from one another. I think it's all about the styles. <br />
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Alvarez is what, 22 years old? Do not write off Shane Mosley. Not in this fight.

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I'm not writing Shane off in this fight, I think Shane knocks out the kid.