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Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler did
Just watching the fabulous 4 and hearns v hagler and looking at the shots both on the replays and generally could anyone else exept hagler have come out cold in round 1 and taken those shots? Im not saying no but just wondering who!?!? We have some great chins but I cant think off the top of my head of any who could have survived that - e.g look at Duran and what happened lol
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Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler
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oakleyno1
Just watching the fabulous 4 and hearns v hagler and looking at the shots both on the replays and generally could anyone else exept hagler have come out cold in round 1 and taken those shots? Im not saying no but just wondering who!?!? We have some great chins but I cant think off the top of my head of any who could have survived that - e.g look at Duran and what happened lol
Floyd PacMan would be on there back's looking at the star's, both KO no problem at all
for Tommy.;D:knock_out:
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Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler
ıts hawk tıme bıtches. you better belıeve ıt.
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Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler
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brocktonblockbust
ıts hawk tıme bıtches. you better belıeve ıt.
Yes he did beat Tommy in the am's.;)
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Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler
Sugar Ray would have walked through the Hit Man :cool:
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That is Sugar ray Robinson by the way :cool:.
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Carlos Monzon
Aaron Pryor
Bennie Briscoe
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Archie Moore
Sugar Ray Robinson
Chris Eubank
Mike McCallum
Antonio Margarito
Dick Tiger
Jake LaMotta
Charley Burley
Ezzard Charles
James Toney
Beranrd Hopkins
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
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Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler
Hagler was a tough nut, he was hurt alright. He was cut too, that cut was serious and if he didn't knock Tommy out in the 3rd it is unlikely Hagler could've continued beyond rounds 4 and 5? It wouldn't have been Hagler's choice, but the cut would've seen a stoppage.
As it happened he took all of Tommy Hearns best shots and survived, he then stepped on the gas after being cut and finished the job. Hagler had a granite like chin and i think Tommy Hearns was genuinely shocked Hagler didn't go down after landing so many big shots. If anything it appeared to have galvanised Hagler and he was relentless for the next two rounds. Would loved to have seen a rematch, but c'est la vie.
As for any others, Monzon would've taken all Hearns shots and probably KO'd him the same way Hagler did.
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Aaron Pryor would have gotten hammered by Hearns in the pros.
Margarito would have been massacred by The Hitman.
The others I could see doing ok...LaMatta maybe?
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ICB
Carlos Monzon
Aaron Pryor
Bennie Briscoe
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Archie Moore
Sugar Ray Robinson
Chris Eubank
Mike McCallum
Antonio Margarito
Dick Tiger
Jake LaMotta
Charley Burley
Ezzard Charles
James Toney
Beranrd Hopkins
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Great list.
Can add Kid Gavilan, Ezzard Charles, Nigel Benn and Oscar de la Hoya to the list.
Not many WW but more MW and LHW would just because of their size and weight.
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Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler
I don't think Light Heavyweights should really come into play here, seeing as this was a middleweight fight.
LaMotta would've taken it.
Robinson, too.
I'm not sure about anybody else. Pryor probably had a pretty decent chance of staying in there.
I don't really think Hagler was hurt, either. The guy's dome was hard like a football helmet. He had a fantastic chin. If he was hurt, he recovered fantastically.
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If Arguello could hurt Pryor then a professional "All growed up" Tommy Hearns would have stopped him.
Maybe De la Hoya or Mosely could have taken that power for a bit, but I am thinking that even those guys (who had really solid chins) would wither under those shots
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El Kabong
If Arguello could hurt Pryor then a professional "All growed up" Tommy Hearns would have stopped him.
Maybe De la Hoya or Mosely could have taken that power for a bit, but I am thinking that even those guys (who had really solid chins) would wither under those shots
Arguello was a powerful hitter. I wouldn't put that to Pryor's discredit quite too much.
Interesting enough that you referred to a professional Hearns as "all growed up." Jogged my memory I bit. Hearns barely got any knockouts as an Amatuer. He used his boxing skills to beat everybody in the beginning. He didn't develop his punch until he got into the professional game.
Hearns was certainly fantastic. If the guy had an iron chin, he'd have been unstoppable. Imagine how much of a monster he would have been with an iron chin and excellent skills on the inside.
My imagination is running away from me. I apologize. ;D:cool:
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I think if Hearns could KO Duran he could KO anyone, especially at the lower weights the only people I could think that could have survived would be at middleweight Ray Robinson and Eubanks.
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Manos de Piedra
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ICB
Carlos Monzon
Aaron Pryor
Bennie Briscoe
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Archie Moore
Sugar Ray Robinson
Chris Eubank
Mike McCallum
Antonio Margarito
Dick Tiger
Jake LaMotta
Charley Burley
Ezzard Charles
James Toney
Beranrd Hopkins
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Great list.
Can add Kid Gavilan, Ezzard Charles, Nigel Benn and Oscar de la Hoya to the list.
Not many WW but more MW and LHW would just because of their size and weight.
Nigel Benn would have been knocked down. But look out once he got back up :cool:
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Hulk
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Manos de Piedra
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ICB
Carlos Monzon
Aaron Pryor
Bennie Briscoe
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Archie Moore
Sugar Ray Robinson
Chris Eubank
Mike McCallum
Antonio Margarito
Dick Tiger
Jake LaMotta
Charley Burley
Ezzard Charles
James Toney
Beranrd Hopkins
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Great list.
Can add Kid Gavilan, Ezzard Charles, Nigel Benn and Oscar de la Hoya to the list.
Not many WW but more MW and LHW would just because of their size and weight.
Nigel Benn would have been knocked down. But look out once he got back up :cool:
Definitely. I think most fighters on the list would have been knocked down but their heart and recuperative abilities would have helped them see the end of the round.
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Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler
How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.
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johnsebastianmiran
How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.
I was suprised nobody mentioned that sooner: Barkley did take those shots and kod Hearns at least as dramatically as did Hagler. And Doug DeWitt. Watch the 2nd round of his fight with Hearns.
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greynotsoold
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johnsebastianmiran
How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.
I was suprised nobody mentioned that sooner: Barkley did take those shots and kod Hearns at least as dramatically as did Hagler. And Doug DeWitt. Watch the 2nd round of his fight with Hearns.
I'm going to have to look that up now.
Doug DeWitt is the definition of the word: TOUGH.
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Hulk
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greynotsoold
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johnsebastianmiran
How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.
I was suprised nobody mentioned that sooner: Barkley did take those shots and kod Hearns at least as dramatically as did Hagler. And Doug DeWitt. Watch the 2nd round of his fight with Hearns.
I'm going to have to look that up now.
Doug DeWitt is the definition of the word: TOUGH.
Remember Benn taking DeWitt out, a face only a Mother could love one tough SOB.!;)
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DeWitt was a character. Hardly any amateur background, but he had a pretty good left hand when he chose to use it, but often (like against McCrory) he'd just eat punches. Never down or hurt until, in an ESPN fight he was dominating, he walked into a right hand and went out. After that, he was a little shaky.
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Dia bando
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Hulk
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greynotsoold
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johnsebastianmiran
How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.
I was suprised nobody mentioned that sooner: Barkley did take those shots and kod Hearns at least as dramatically as did Hagler. And Doug DeWitt. Watch the 2nd round of his fight with Hearns.
I'm going to have to look that up now.
Doug DeWitt is the definition of the word: TOUGH.
Remember Benn taking DeWitt out, a face only a Mother could love one tough SOB.!;)
Dewitt put benn down early and Benn only finsihed him after a body shot.
