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Im backing uk fighters whether they have a chance or not!?
What has chisora got to do to beat the impressive conditioned vitali?
Is it a case of him focusing on three rounds and giving it all he can?
He has to get around that boring jab and crush that granite chin..can he do it?
No
He COULD....but he could also fly a rocket ship to the moon.
Ha ha, come on!
No faith.
Didnt you see his superb performance against fury?
He has to use that upper body movement and his legs to just keep Vitali from setting himself and make Vitali use his legs more. I think he can do it.
If arreola couldnt do it then chisora won't.
That's my opinion, chisora could get lucky but even Lennox had troubles
Anything is possible but I highly doubt it.
He has to hope Vitali gets injured, thats his only shot. Theres no gameplan that can win him it as I see it. He is simply too small against a huge guy who can utilise his advantages (something Helenius doesnt do). Hopefully he can take it into the late rounds to get respect though. If he takes it to the cards, that would be a victory imo.
Chisora has a little less than no chance.
How long is this klitsko domination going to carry on for?
They still get the job done but the toughest competition for them would be themselves.. Vlad and vitali fight each other and prove whos the best! Get over the brother thing! Lol.
can pigs fly ?? ;D
He has no chance IMO, he doesnt even have that big punch which would be his only chance to beat Vitali and even if you had that big punch its going to take a lot to test the iron chin of Vitali. His only success will be maybe slipping some punches and landing a few but that will be it. As soon as Vitali establishes the jab and starts landing the big right hand, Chisora will lose his spirit and take a lot of big blows. This will result in Vitali breaking Chisora down and the referee would have seen far too much around the 6-8 round mark. I dont even see Vitali losing a round against Chisora.
Chisora is too small, lacks power and too inexperienced to have a go at Vitali. He is in dream land if he thinks he has any chance of beating Vitali.
I can't see it happening, but in this game you can never say never
Not even if Vitali didn't turn up could Chisora win
He needs to come in so fit that he can carry on punching throughout the whole fight. he also needs to keep as close to Vitali as possible and punch him with those weird choppy right and lefts he does all night. He will never be able to knock Vitali out but if he keeps close and has the fitness to stay in there, then he may have the tiniest of shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
So summing it up. Chisora has to be three times as fit as he has ever been in the ring. He has to be right next to Vitali without getting his head pushed down. Be able to punch all night long from the inside. It would also be usefull if Vitali aged quite a bit before the fight.
So you are looking at a very tall order. Better chance than Mormec against the other brother, but that doesnt mean alot. Im betting on a tenth round tko for Vitali. He could finish it earlier but you know the Klits like to play with there food.
Chisora has only had 17 fights as a Pro, winning 15, 9 by KO, i'm not even sure Chisora had any amateur fights. Let's be realistic Imp, the only chance Derek has, is if Vitali has some freak injury like he did in the Byrd fight. Vitali says he'll knock Chisora out in 6 rounds, I believe him.
Are you Chisora's mother ?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
He has no chance and its insulting that he his getting a shot at the title.
I agree it is a joke. But no matter who you put against them in the heavy weight devision it would still be a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlAre you Chisora's mother ?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
He has no chance and its insulting that he his getting a shot at the title.
Chris Areola cant get out of the way of a punch, Chisora can. I think he will surprise a few people;)
The klits could go on until their 50's easy, they are boxers unlike Roy jones who relies on legs etc where the klits are pure boxers and use reach, height and power with decent speed and good conditioning.
Their game plans are just right.
Tough one but still can't see del boy doing it but it is boxing, I suppose it's like charlton against Barcelona
everyone said buster douglass had no chance
Granted.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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Originally Posted by DropanukeGranted.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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and its very very easy to say he has no chance
it takes a man with balls to say perhaps he does have a chance
look at vitals last 6 oppoments
adamek - very small and looked like every punch caused him poblems, didnt try and get inside at all
solis - was winning the fight :) obviously couldnt take the punch along with the injury
briggs - big and slow and easy to hit and made for vitali
sosnowski - as above
johnson - old
areola - fat and easy to hit
Vitali looked unbeatable in these fights, i think chisora brings something new
No I think Chisora is small and fat. He has no chance like the six fighters you mentioned. Adameck had the best chance because he was the best boxer out of them all, however look what happened to him. He was outclassed because Vitali is too good.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeGranted.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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and its very very easy to say he has no chance
it takes a man with balls to say perhaps he does have a chance
look at vitals last 6 oppoments
adamek - very small and looked like every punch caused him poblems, didnt try and get inside at all
solis - was winning the fight :) obviously couldnt take the punch along with the injury
briggs - big and slow and easy to hit and made for vitali
sosnowski - as above
johnson - old
areola - fat and easy to hit
Vitali looked unbeatable in these fights, i think chisora brings something new
Chisora wins if Vitali gets injured in the fight.
No, of course he hasnt got a chance we all know that but we got to give some moral support!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlAre you Chisora's mother ?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
He has no chance and its insulting that he his getting a shot at the title.
I just want a british world heavyweight champion again and unfortunatly fury and price arent there yet..neither is chisora but he is all thats around for the time being
Representing the uk.
like i say mate its very very easy to say he has no chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
and chisora didnt look small and fat in his last fight
I believe Drop nailed it on its head. Agree 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropanuke
Erics, there is no poster as pro-:britain: as you, my friend. Chisora is the same height as Adamek and lost to Tyson Fury, do you really believe he stands a chance? Vitali-TKO-8. Do you think Chisora is better than Adamek?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by DropanukeGranted.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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and its very very easy to say he has no chance
it takes a man with balls to say perhaps he does have a chance
look at vitals last 6 oppoments
adamek - very small and looked like every punch caused him poblems, didnt try and get inside at all
solis - was winning the fight :) obviously couldnt take the punch along with the injury
briggs - big and slow and easy to hit and made for vitali
sosnowski - as above
johnson - old
areola - fat and easy to hit
Vitali looked unbeatable in these fights, i think chisora brings something new
whether he has a chance or not it would be daft to use the fury fight as an kind of indicator of how chisora would fair in future boutsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
he had clearly not trained properly and was fat, he came out and did a number on what everyone was saying was a much better fighter than fury in helenius in his next proper fight
he was a stone and a half lighter against helenius and clearly more athletic and light on his feet
agreed?
Robert Helenius isn't hardly Vitali Klitschko eric
i never said he wasQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
that wasnt the point of my post, have another read :)
I read it clearly enough, you said Chisora did a number on a much better fighter than Fury in Helenius. Which leads us to the logical conclusion of your thought process that: If Chisora can step his game up vs Helenius and take away a moral victory (having been apparently robbed on the cards) then he COULD possibly do the same to Vitali Klitschko.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i never said he wasQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
that wasnt the point of my post, have another read :)
The problem with that line of thought is that #1 The Klitschko's ALWAYS come to fight in shape and #2 Vitali Klitschko is one of the better heavyweights...ever. He may not be top 10 but he's a far sight better than anyone Chisora could possibly face (bar Wladimir of course who is also well up there).
nope you are reading stuff that isnt thereQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI read it clearly enough, you said Chisora did a number on a much better fighter than Fury in Helenius. Which leads us to the logical conclusion of your thought process that: If Chisora can step his game up vs Helenius and take away a moral victory (having been apparently robbed on the cards) then he COULD possibly do the same to Vitali Klitschko.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i never said he wasQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
that wasnt the point of my post, have another read :)
The problem with that line of thought is that #1 The Klitschko's ALWAYS come to fight in shape and #2 Vitali Klitschko is one of the better heavyweights...ever. He may not be top 10 but he's a far sight better than anyone Chisora could possibly face (bar Wladimir of course who is also well up there).
on more than one occasion in this thread people have said chisora lost to fury
so i said that fight cant be any kind of indicator of how chisora will fight in any future fights as proved with his fight against helenius
so it doesnt matter if vitali would beat up a chisora with a cricket bat, a fit and ready chisora with a cricket bat is twenty times better than the chisora against fury with a cricket bat
:) get me now?
and p.s. i never said helenius was better than fury, i said everyone else (meaning everyone on this forum) was saying so
He's 6 foot 1, his physical presence just cant match Vitali and he's not quick enough to trouble him. He might be a bit stockier that Adameck, but he's not on his level in terms of boxing talent. The thing I do like about Chisora is that he does have good heavy movement and this will save him from getting stopped early. But that's just delaying the inevitable stoppage which will come soon after.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44like i say mate its very very easy to say he has no chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
and chisora didnt look small and fat in his last fight
Let's see, Chisora is short, fat, inexperienced at the championship level, and will look like a middleweight compared to Vitali, who will have and 8" reach, and 6" height advantage on fight night. On top of that Chisora's claim to fame is what, his 2 losses to Helenius and Fury? At this point all Chisora is for Vitali is an opponent, given a "chance" by some, just to sell tickets and put butts in the seats.
Here's why:
#1. Chisora won't be able to get on the inside, and/or past Vitali's 80" reach or jab.
#2. Chisora won't be able to "outbox" Vitali, who's a much better, more experienced boxer, and for the reasons mentioned in #1.
#3. Chisora's only real chance is a freak injury or catching Vitali with a huge, 1 in a million hay-maker, but even then, the Iron chinned Vitali wouldn't be knocked out by it.
So how the fuck is Chisora going to win this fight? I'd really like to know. ;)
Fuck it.... Chisora will win;)
ross has ballsQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
more than i can say than for the rest of you homos ;D
I'll give you £100 if he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Chisora is just getting a pay day...he'll lay down like a little kitten once he steps in the ring vs Vitali
Chisora is gonna be in a world of pain come fight night , and i cant wait gobby fat git :cool: he only looked half decent against Helinius because Helinius was injured Chisora does not deserve this shot and he will find that out himself pretty quickly.