What did you guys in The States make of this?
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What did you guys in The States make of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=FLfVgA0xZhs#
He's a social conservative. That's pretty much my opinion of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
He is off his head on the God delusion. Santorum drinks it in daily and seems completely drunk on the insanity. He seems to be for real. Unfortunately half of the US populace is insane too, so he appears to be somewhat popular.
Well basically there are two candidates for the GOP that have been gaining the majority of the primary delegates and primary votes.
Santorum and Romney.
At this point, the USA in the general deimos/phobos loving public, a failed lottery ticket could beat Obama in the 2012 election.
Romney has a lot of money from other peoples labor as the owner of an equity firm epitimizes corporatism. I haven't heard anything real politically from him other than he plans on cutting taxes to stimulate the economy and he feels the current administration is a failed one.
Santorum has played a lot more on the table, and wants America to reflect and espouse Christian values in everyday life. Gays can be made ungay, all of the founding fathers were Christian and the laws of the land set forth by the founding fathers were based on the Bible. That is basically his platform. He also believes as he stated that the Dutch kill people as a common practice.
Business as usual in Washington really.
I would love to see Santorum win, because it would pretty much ensure an Obama/Democrat landslide, but I just can't see him beating Romney and winning the nomination. He's the type of extremist that appeals to the hardcore nutjobs, but moderate Republicans have to know he has no chance of being elected. He's batshit crazy.
It's like a sexually-repressed Bilbo running for office.
In general, in my lifetime (since 1964), our presidential candidates have been a sorry bunch of ninnies. It seems that Americans will vote against their own best interests joyfully if the sorrow is sold by some slick talking guy with white teeth. Which doesn't explain Nixon, but election rigging does.
Another Obama presidency would be horrible, but no better and no worse than a Romney or Santorum presidency, or four more years of W. Bush because they are in essence the same individual, with the same goals and objectives, just different ways of flavoring the poison.
Just wait until 2016 when Jeb Bush runs and once again voters turn out to elect anoth member of the most treasonous clan in US history.
Santorum is a dope....he preaches all this social conservativism but look at his economic views and he's well liberal.
Romney is smart, Romney has money to run the campaign vs Obama, Romney is reasonable, and hell I don't give a fuck if he doesn't "connect with the average man" he's running for President not to be your fucking best friend! Obama will have a hard time getting re-elected, gas prices are high, unemployment isn't good, and he has made no effort to fix the economy he's just blamed Bush for everything for 3 years and if he's elected again he'll continue to blame Bush.
The places the Republicans NEED to win is where Romney is doing well (Michigan, Ohio, New Hampshire) the places where Santorum does well are where the people would rather die than have to suffer through one more Obama term as President!
Santorum is a total moron...I despise him. Romney isn't the best "candidate" but he's best suited to be President, he has experience at being a leader, being an executive, and being held accountable. I think we could rally latino voters depending on Romney's VP choice which I would hope is Marco Rubio.
#1 The fuck are you on about "Election rigging"??? That's some bullshit right there. Nixon won because he faced off against LBJ(well LBJ's policies and the handling of Vietnam), who was one of the worst Presidents ever, not to mention bat shit crazy!Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
#2 Say what you like about George W. Bush, but George H.W. Bush was a war hero and a very good President and Vice President. Jeb Bush is probably the better suited son for Presidential office, but I HIGHLY doubt he would run now as the name alone would be something for people to campaign against.
No question about it, Santorum is a complete moron.
If he, Rick Perry, or Michelle Bachman were to be elected, I would walk to Canada.
Or Gingrich for that matter....it just isn't a great field for the GOP Presidential race. I liked Herman Cain, I could tolerate Ron Paul, but Romney to me is the only sane choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
I am not going to leave the US anytime soon in regards to my primary residence, but I'd rather poor candidates like Santorum get the hell out of the way and stop trying to ratchet up support on issues people don't give a fuck about....focus on the economy and the war on terror (as in toning it down). The economy still sucks, and Obama obviously doesn't want to take the heat for it but he hasn't helped out at all....the war on terror needs to be toned down because Syria and Iran are next in the sights and we cannot have our forces stretched so thin and battle fatigued forces. I'm not saying we WILL attack Syria or Iran, but we must prepare like it's going to happen, perhaps it will quell their sabre rattling.
The guy I'm hoping for is Ron Paul, to be honest. When I see all of the candidates, Paul is the only one that appears to give even half of an honest shit.
He won't win as on certain issues he's far more Liberal than Obama....if he was to run 3rd Party I think he would take more votes away from Obama than the GOP nomination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
I really wanted Chris Christie to run, he's the fucking man! He's no nonsense, he speaks his mind, he's tough, quick on his feet, & would just gut Obama like a fish in a debate.
Liberal how? Paul defines what conservatism is IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHe won't win as on certain issues he's far more Liberal than Obama....if he was to run 3rd Party I think he would take more votes away from Obama than the GOP nomination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac
I really wanted Chris Christie to run, he's the fucking man! He's no nonsense, he speaks his mind, he's tough, quick on his feet, & would just gut Obama like a fish in a debate.
His stance on the military is very liberal...granted lots of military folk agree with him and if the world was a perfect place I may agree with him too, but aiming to be an isolationist is just naive in this day and age. American isolationism got shot to shit Dec. 7th, 1941....that day made us into a nation that has a say in damn near everything for better or worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
How is that liberal or isolationist? He is following what the Constitution calls for as the military and he is looking to be non-interventionist instead of isolationist.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHis stance on the military is very liberal...granted lots of military folk agree with him and if the world was a perfect place I may agree with him too, but aiming to be an isolationist is just naive in this day and age. American isolationism got shot to shit Dec. 7th, 1941....that day made us into a nation that has a say in damn near everything for better or worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
He wants to bring 100% of our overseas forces back home. That's all fine and dandy, but the simple fact we have a bootprint on every single continent does help keep some people in line. Strategically it would be unwise to forfit our overseas bases. Wind down the 'War on Terror'? Sure, let's wrap it up because there are other threats on the horizon.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepHow is that liberal or isolationist? He is following what the Constitution calls for as the military and he is looking to be non-interventionist instead of isolationist.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHis stance on the military is very liberal...granted lots of military folk agree with him and if the world was a perfect place I may agree with him too, but aiming to be an isolationist is just naive in this day and age. American isolationism got shot to shit Dec. 7th, 1941....that day made us into a nation that has a say in damn near everything for better or worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Legalizing all drugs would also be a bit of a leap....legalizing marijuana and taxing it, ok, that's fine, but heroin, cocaine, crystal meth...these would pose problems.
Santorum sounds interesting. Why does he believe that the Dutch kill people as a common practice?
Romney has a lot of money and represent elite corporatism and plans on cutting taxes for his friends in the guise of stimulating the economy. That says it all.
Hope Obama wins.
1. He's a dopeQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
2. What's wrong with "elite corporatism"? Cutting taxes would stimulate the economy! You seem to think that Romney (a guy who went out an earned big bucks at a real job) is a morally corrupt bad person for having money. He's successful, he's successful because in America you can do that, you can run a business and earn your money...Obama has NEVER been held accountable for anything other than grades.
3. Yeah, oddly enough YOU don't have to put up with him....he's a HORRIBLE President....HORRIBLE
You did not have to put up with Maggie Thatcher but you liked her.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong1. He's a dopeQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
2. What's wrong with "elite corporatism"? Cutting taxes would stimulate the economy!
3. Yeah, oddly enough YOU don't have to put up with him....he's a HORRIBLE President....HORRIBLE
We had to put up with Bush because we had the lap dog Blair.
Maggie is rated as one of the greatest Prime Ministers in the history of England...what is there not to like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
George Bush was better than Obama....it's a cold hard fact. Bush inherited a piss poor economy from Bill Clinton and he turned it around right quick. Obama says "We NEED higher gas prices" then denies it, and when we get higher gas prices he does 0 to affect/promote a change in them.....and why is this??? Well he wants people to buy the god damned electric car which is "electric" in that it runs off a battery but the batteries are charged by COAL....another fuel that Obama is 100% opposed to.
Barack Obama is our affirmative action President, he's done 0 to qualify himself for the job, the media sold him to those idiots out there, and they lapped it up. If Obama was white he would have 0 chance at re-election right now because the economy sucks and gas prices are going to hit $5 a gallon.....might not seem like a lot to you Brits, but that's $2-3 more than we should be paying. Should we increase the supply to bring the cost down? Ooooh heavens no, why what about the Global Warming and "no blood for oil" and solar power.....bunch of liberal panty wastes
lol it's going to be fun watching Obama lay waste to the best of another collection of right wing lunatics candidates and the CAPS LOCK loving social conservatives losing the glue ONCE. AGAIN. :D
Only a clueless American would say something as ridiculous as that;DQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMaggie is rated as one of the greatest Prime Ministers in the history of England...what is there not to like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
George Bush was better than Obama....it's a cold hard fact. Bush inherited a piss poor economy from Bill Clinton and he turned it around right quick. Obama says "We NEED higher gas prices" then denies it, and when we get higher gas prices he does 0 to affect/promote a change in them.....and why is this??? Well he wants people to buy the god damned electric car which is "electric" in that it runs off a battery but the batteries are charged by COAL....another fuel that Obama is 100% opposed to.
Barack Obama is our affirmative action President, he's done 0 to qualify himself for the job, the media sold him to those idiots out there, and they lapped it up. If Obama was white he would have 0 chance at re-election right now because the economy sucks and gas prices are going to hit $5 a gallon.....might not seem like a lot to you Brits, but that's $2-3 more than we should be paying. Should we increase the supply to bring the cost down? Ooooh heavens no, why what about the Global Warming and "no blood for oil" and solar power.....bunch of liberal panty wastes
Historical rankings of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzOnly a clueless American would say something as ridiculous as that;DQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMaggie is rated as one of the greatest Prime Ministers in the history of England...what is there not to like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
George Bush was better than Obama....it's a cold hard fact. Bush inherited a piss poor economy from Bill Clinton and he turned it around right quick. Obama says "We NEED higher gas prices" then denies it, and when we get higher gas prices he does 0 to affect/promote a change in them.....and why is this??? Well he wants people to buy the god damned electric car which is "electric" in that it runs off a battery but the batteries are charged by COAL....another fuel that Obama is 100% opposed to.
Barack Obama is our affirmative action President, he's done 0 to qualify himself for the job, the media sold him to those idiots out there, and they lapped it up. If Obama was white he would have 0 chance at re-election right now because the economy sucks and gas prices are going to hit $5 a gallon.....might not seem like a lot to you Brits, but that's $2-3 more than we should be paying. Should we increase the supply to bring the cost down? Ooooh heavens no, why what about the Global Warming and "no blood for oil" and solar power.....bunch of liberal panty wastes
Check yourself bruh....Good Old Maggie is always at the top with Attlee, Lloyd George, & Churchill
That is the opinion of Political academics. The British people would beg to differ. Even The Times on your same wikipedia page rates her at 71 not even in the Top 50. She tore this country apart and turned it from the workshop of the world into a barren, vacuous, money obsessed, shallow wasteland.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHistorical rankings of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzOnly a clueless American would say something as ridiculous as that;DQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMaggie is rated as one of the greatest Prime Ministers in the history of England...what is there not to like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
George Bush was better than Obama....it's a cold hard fact. Bush inherited a piss poor economy from Bill Clinton and he turned it around right quick. Obama says "We NEED higher gas prices" then denies it, and when we get higher gas prices he does 0 to affect/promote a change in them.....and why is this??? Well he wants people to buy the god damned electric car which is "electric" in that it runs off a battery but the batteries are charged by COAL....another fuel that Obama is 100% opposed to.
Barack Obama is our affirmative action President, he's done 0 to qualify himself for the job, the media sold him to those idiots out there, and they lapped it up. If Obama was white he would have 0 chance at re-election right now because the economy sucks and gas prices are going to hit $5 a gallon.....might not seem like a lot to you Brits, but that's $2-3 more than we should be paying. Should we increase the supply to bring the cost down? Ooooh heavens no, why what about the Global Warming and "no blood for oil" and solar power.....bunch of liberal panty wastes
Check yourself bruh....Good Old Maggie is always at the top with Attlee, Lloyd George, & Churchill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3XwyIgd7fE
Actually The Times rated her 5th, the lowest she was rated on any of the lists that wikipedia used was 10th.
She pulled England up by the bootstraps...without The Iron Lady England would be like Greece. So some poor people got pissed off because all of a sudden they were expected to work and produce....lousy welfare bastards!
You are so full of shit. She set in motion the rush to privatization. She caused mass unemployment and closed down many avenues of employment for the working class. As a young man I struggled to find work when she was in power and was massively dismayed that she gleefully joined America in the pointless race for disproportionate nuclear armament. She sold out her class in affecting a snotty accent and spawned a spoilt generation of money obsessed yuppies who became the heartless bankers that fucked this great country over. Thanks Maggie, nice job.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
If it makes you feel any better the US is about to take a step back in that direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYou are so full of shit. She set in motion the rush to privatization. She caused mass unemployment and closed down many avenues of employment for the working class. As a young man I struggled to find work when she was in power and was massively dismayed that she gleefully joined America in the pointless race for disproportionate nuclear armament. She sold out her class in affecting a snotty accent and spawned a spoilt generation of money obsessed yuppies who became the heartless bankers that fucked this great country over. Thanks Maggie, nice job.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Hey, I resemble that remark!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Unfortunately, I tend to agree with you, but I put it at more like 80%. :bag:
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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Santorum is a fundy christian, who has no chance at winning the republican's nomination for president. Unless Romney pulls a major blunder in the next month or so he'll get the republican nod.
BTW, I like Romney's chances in November against Obama, I know i'll be voting for him, it's time to get a little sanity back in the whitehouse.
Just 40% of "whites" voted for Obama in 2008, that means an increase from 60% to 65-70%, of the white vote and Romney should get elected in 2012.
I agree that Romney is a much clearer front runner than the press is making the race out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Santorum is a fundy christian, who has no chance at winning the republican's nomination for president. Unless Romney pulls a major blunder in the next month or so he'll get the republican nod.
BTW, I like Romney's chances in November against Obama, I know i'll be voting for him, it's time to get a little sanity back in the whitehouse.
Just 40% of "whites" voted for Obama in 2008, that means an increase from 60% to 65-70%, of the white vote and Romney should get elected in 2012.
Republican Delegate Count - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com
Romney has 38.6% of the delegates he needs
Santorum has 15.8% of the delegates he needs
Gingrich has 9.4% of the delegates he needs
Paul has 4.0% of the delegates he needs
Huntsman has 0.2% of the delegates he needs
758 Delegates have cast and 1,528 remain so while it's true that only 1/3 of the delegates have cast
Romney's lead is quite strong. Add to that he has by far the deepest coffers for his own campaign as well as the most well-funded super pac.
Romney needs 47.3% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 805 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 5/8/12
Santorum needs 63.0% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 565 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 4/27/12
Gingrich needs 67.9% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 490 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 4/3/12
Paul needs 71.9% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 429 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 4/3/12
Huntsman needs 74.7% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 386 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 4/3/12
As shown above Romney has a survivability 2 weeks longer than Santorum and a month longer than any of the other 3 candidates.
It's really a 2 man race now, sooner or later republicans will realize that, Santorum, although he's done surprisingly well, can not win the republican nomination.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI agree that Romney is a much clearer front runner than the press is making the race out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Republican Delegate Count - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com
Romney has 38.6% of the delegates he needs
Santorum has 15.8% of the delegates he needs
Gingrich has 9.4% of the delegates he needs
Paul has 4.0% of the delegates he needs
Huntsman has 0.2% of the delegates he needs
758 Delegates have cast and 1,528 remain so while it's true that only 1/3 of the delegates have cast
Romney's lead is quite strong. Add to that he has by far the deepest coffers for his own campaign as well as the most well-funded super pac.
Romney needs 47.3% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 805 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 5/8/12
Santorum needs 63.0% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 565 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 4/27/12
Gingrich needs 67.9% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 490 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 4/3/12
Paul needs 71.9% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 429 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 4/3/12
Huntsman needs 74.7% of the remaining delegates to lock the candidacy (if 386 delegates cast for other candidates, he will be mathematically eliminated from the race) the soonest this could happen would be 4/3/12
As shown above Romney has a survivability 2 weeks longer than Santorum and a month longer than any of the other 3 candidates.
BTW, the Republican presidential primary in Texas was suppose to have held March 6, (Super Tuesday), as originally scheduled, but now it's not likely to happen until May 29th, by then the GOP presidential nomination is likely to be wrapped up. Texas has 155 Republican delegates.
Santorum is a douchebag that would rather talk about what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom than the real issues the country faces. Romney has done little to show me that he is anything other than a big government republican. He doesn't take hard stances on issues. I am skeptical of anyone that is so vanilla I can't really tell where they stand. I was interested in Huntsman and am a big fan of Ron Paul but it looks like I will be voting for Gary Johson in the general election.
Romney is a successful businessman, just what this country needs right now. Hopefully the liberals social experiment and it's failure has run it's course, and the Obamas & Hillary have their socialist/communist asses unceremoniously kicked out of the whitehouse in November.
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Originally Posted by Mars_ax
What are the policies that Romney wants to implement that you support? Or is it more a case of voting against the current administration.
Above everything else I want that current nest of liberal/socialists out of the whitehouse, Obama is, unqualified, divisive and his "leadership" qualities are non-existent. I also cringe every time I think about that feminist/lesbian piece of shit, Hillary representing the U.S. as it's secretary of state.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
What are the policies that Romney wants to implement that you support? Or is it more a case of voting against the current administration.
In my view, Romney will turn the economy around, he's a successful businessman and will be a successful president.
His business model is one of leveraged buyouts, please explain how that differs from the nest of liberal/socialists model of government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axAbove everything else I want that current nest of liberal/socialists out of the whitehouse, Obama is, unqualified, divisive and his "leadership" qualities are non-existent. I also cringe every time I think about that feminist/lesbian piece of shit, Hillary representing the U.S. as it's secretary of state.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
What are the policies that Romney wants to implement that you support? Or is it more a case of voting against the current administration.
In my view, Romney will turn the economy around, he's a successful businessman and will be a successful president.
Santorum is projected to take Kansas and will pick up at least 20 of the 40 delegates.
30 of the 40 now.
While I don't really know what Romney will do, Santorum is actually scary to me, he's all about being big brother in the name of the lord.
"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them." - Barry Goldwater
"When you say "radical right" today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye." - Barry Goldwater
Christian's tend to be absolutists, there's always one "right way" to do things = "god's way", which really means the Christan way. (their way) Goldwater was right there's no flex or compromising with Christians, they already know it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
The French are credited with The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie (bigotry) in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite".
Bigot fits Santorum and Christians quite well, doesn't it. :)
Santorum has the look as of a meltdown during a debate waiting in the wings. Its written on the forced smile. The republican party...all 2 or 3 of them...seem hell bent on paving the road for Obama in another election. Santorum is the poster boy for delusion and being out of touch as to what are the every day concerns of a family deciding what bills to pay and what bills can be pushed aside 'today'. I don't care what your position is on my neighbors sex life or what direction they bow to when they pray...I could give a shit. Keep your religious dogma off my coffee table and your fingers off of my check book and thats a start.
Santorum gets his votes from conservative christians who believe he best represents them, sadly christian conservative are a big voting block. Romney will need them in November in the general election, hopefully they can overcome their bias towards mormons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli