In my life i have looked up to a number of people and seen them as role models, heres a few
Timmy mallet, elton john, christopher biggins, freddy mercury, justin fashanu
How about you?
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In my life i have looked up to a number of people and seen them as role models, heres a few
Timmy mallet, elton john, christopher biggins, freddy mercury, justin fashanu
How about you?
What a list is it not all a bit:gay5: ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
There are a lot of people I respect.
I would include William S Burroughs, Noam Chomsky, Steven Hawking, Richard Dawkins, John Lydon, Vincent Van Gogh as some that I have listened to or read about in the last year or so. I'm not so sure I can say I respect Jack the Ripper. He pushed the barriers a little too far. Plus we don't know who he was.
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John Lydon I fuck in hate that prick, for two pin's I would remove his teeth.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
I can understand how he rubs some people the wrong way, but I like a man with opinions and who isn't afraid to say what is on his mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoJohn Lydon I fuck in hate that prick, for two pin's I would remove his teeth.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
We all have opinions if he gave me his he would be in AE, as for what's on his mind not much theQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI can understand how he rubs some people the wrong way, but I like a man with opinions and who isn't afraid to say what is on his mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoJohn Lydon I fuck in hate that prick, for two pin's I would remove his teeth.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
stupid thick twat.;D
if you think it might be a bit like that theres a poll you can voice your views on, i think its in teh hidden section :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoWhat a list is it not all a bit:gay5: ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
ive got no chance in the vote, you always out-gay me without even trying :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
He has a public persona that can seem harsh, but in a world of PC empty heads, Lydon has always been a breath of fresh air. I don't find him stupid at all. He isn't classically educated or anything like that, but he knows how to cut through bullshit and that makes him real. Some very good music over the years too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoWe all have opinions if he gave me his he would be in AE, as for what's on his mind not much theQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI can understand how he rubs some people the wrong way, but I like a man with opinions and who isn't afraid to say what is on his mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoJohn Lydon I fuck in hate that prick, for two pin's I would remove his teeth.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
stupid thick twat.;D
Mind you we didn't need a Sex Pistols reunion, but a man has to feed his family.
Too right, Shampoo boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44ive got no chance in the vote, you always out-gay me without even trying :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
i could shampoo and put make-up on every day and still not be as gay as someone who looks up to some of the dudes on that listQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfToo right, Shampoo boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44ive got no chance in the vote, you always out-gay me without even trying :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
maybe youre just really good at playing the gay of the year game
I have one gay who wrote a book called Queer. Jack the ripper was potentially a homo, but I didn't include him. There is nothing gay about any of the other choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i could shampoo and put make-up on every day and still not be as gay as someone who looks up to some of the dudes on that listQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfToo right, Shampoo boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44ive got no chance in the vote, you always out-gay me without even trying :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
maybe youre just really good at playing the gay of the year game
You are just trolling for gay of the year votes, I am effortless.
Lydon and myself are about the same age, in my younger day's he was a cock then and now , when inQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHe has a public persona that can seem harsh, but in a world of PC empty heads, Lydon has always been a breath of fresh air. I don't find him stupid at all. He isn't classically educated or anything like that, but he knows how to cut through bullshit and that makes him real. Some very good music over the years too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoWe all have opinions if he gave me his he would be in AE, as for what's on his mind not much theQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI can understand how he rubs some people the wrong way, but I like a man with opinions and who isn't afraid to say what is on his mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoJohn Lydon I fuck in hate that prick, for two pin's I would remove his teeth.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
stupid thick twat.;D
Mind you we didn't need a Sex Pistols reunion, but a man has to feed his family.
life you take a dislike to some one he is pretty much top of the list.
I am a straight talking person, Lydon is just a lovey full of crap say's one thing doe's an other he's just
a waste of fresh air.;D
Melchizedek.
Thoth Hermes Trimegestus 111
Virachoca 1
Jesus
Jacques de Molay
Joan of arch
Leonardo da Vinci
Michelangelo
White cloud of the Nezperce
Nicola Tesla
and a bloke named Gary Smith.
Oh and Gerry Lopez best barrel rider ever at Pipeline.
People you look up to my late Father, as all son's should.;)
You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that, but to a degree a lot a lot of people are full of contradictions. Lydon has his, but he is also opinionated and interesting and I respect him as someone with something to say. For similar reasons I like Morrissey. These are the kinds of people who say what they feel at a given time and often it is against the PC molded grain. For instance I thought it was refreshing when Lydon said 'good riddance', when talking of the death of Sid Vicious. He was a friend who became a junkie and got what he deserved for dancing with the devil. Very few people would speak so candidly and in a way I agree with Lydon. He is also very funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoLydon and myself are about the same age, in my younger day's he was a cock then and now , when inQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHe has a public persona that can seem harsh, but in a world of PC empty heads, Lydon has always been a breath of fresh air. I don't find him stupid at all. He isn't classically educated or anything like that, but he knows how to cut through bullshit and that makes him real. Some very good music over the years too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoWe all have opinions if he gave me his he would be in AE, as for what's on his mind not much theQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI can understand how he rubs some people the wrong way, but I like a man with opinions and who isn't afraid to say what is on his mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoJohn Lydon I fuck in hate that prick, for two pin's I would remove his teeth.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
stupid thick twat.;D
Mind you we didn't need a Sex Pistols reunion, but a man has to feed his family.
life you take a dislike to some one he is pretty much top of the list.
I am a straight talking person, Lydon is just a lovey full of crap say's one thing doe's an other he's just
a waste of fresh air.;D
As I have said before, I can see why some wouldn't like him. However, I do and so on my list he stays. I could probably add a lot more people to my list as I am always jumping between obsessions.
Miles your list is your list, Morrissey and Lydon fuck you have no taste two toss pot's, if you put the two together you could not make a fuck in idiot out of both.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou are entitled to your opinion and I respect that, but to a degree a lot a lot of people are full of contradictions. Lydon has his, but he is also opinionated and interesting and I respect him as someone with something to say. For similar reasons I like Morrissey. These are the kinds of people who say what they feel at a given time and often it is against the PC molded grain. For instance I thought it was refreshing when Lydon said 'good riddance', when talking of the death of Sid Vicious. He was a friend who became a junkie and got what he deserved for dancing with the devil. Very few people would speak so candidly and in a way I agree with Lydon. He is also very funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoLydon and myself are about the same age, in my younger day's he was a cock then and now , when inQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHe has a public persona that can seem harsh, but in a world of PC empty heads, Lydon has always been a breath of fresh air. I don't find him stupid at all. He isn't classically educated or anything like that, but he knows how to cut through bullshit and that makes him real. Some very good music over the years too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoWe all have opinions if he gave me his he would be in AE, as for what's on his mind not much theQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI can understand how he rubs some people the wrong way, but I like a man with opinions and who isn't afraid to say what is on his mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoJohn Lydon I fuck in hate that prick, for two pin's I would remove his teeth.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
stupid thick twat.;D
Mind you we didn't need a Sex Pistols reunion, but a man has to feed his family.
life you take a dislike to some one he is pretty much top of the list.
I am a straight talking person, Lydon is just a lovey full of crap say's one thing doe's an other he's just
a waste of fresh air.;D
As I have said before, I can see why some wouldn't like him. However, I do and so on my list he stays. I could probably add a lot more people to my list as I am always jumping between obsessions.
Here's a tip Miles, people you my look up to may disappoint you it a fact, reformed junkie and the other a complete Jackass, hardly two roll model's.
But Miles you like them and if we all liked the same thing life would be boring, but when I was breeding dog's those two would have been in the bucket no problem.;)
What do role models have to do with it? I don't like people just because they are role models. I like them for a variety of reasons. People must have something to say. William Burroughs was a junkie who shot his wife in the head. Clearly no role model, but he was also a fantastic writer and that is what I like. Morrissey summed up the human condition in verse form and as a collective produced great music in The Smiths. Never mind the bollocks is a classic and Lydon has achieved more than most of us in his lifetime and I respect the impact. Let me know when anyone today makes something as sublime as God save the Queen. It is a statement and worthy.
I see no reason to hate on and be so rude about people who have changed lives.
The smith's music to slit your wrist's to Miles, thing is you change your own life my friend Miles you are very flowery with your out look on life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Remember these two people which you hold in high a steam, are pompus lovey's, you may think I'm
hateful but that's how I am old school.Not having a dig Miles on some thing's we may agree to disagree, only fun Miles nothing more.;D
Well, fair enough. I was able to put a few names out there. I'm brave enough to set myself up for a fall and that's what the people I like do too. To have critics means you are doing something right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoThe smith's music to slit your wrist's to Miles, thing is you change your own life my friend Miles you are very flowery with your out look on life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Remember these two people which you hold in high a steam, are pompus lovey's, you may think I'm
hateful but that's how I am old school.Not having a dig Miles on some thing's we may agree to disagree, only fun Miles nothing more.;D
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Originally Posted by Dia bando
Yup, and even though he could be a SOB at times, i'll never forget him.
These days, there's not anyone I really "look up to". There are people I respect and admire for what they've accomplished in life, but i'm vain enough to believe myself.
I don't look up to my own father in the slightest. He was a traitor to the cause and walked out on his own family. The best thing my parents taught me was to never have children.
They have no idea what suffering they are inflicting and how it affects you on a long term basis.
People who create art that you relate to are far greater figures than all too many parents.
You do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Sure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
So long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Well, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
Those threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
This thread was for people to say who they look up to. Very few have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThose threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
Other threads have been made by people who support terrible things. Nobody I like supports terrible things. Maybe they committed terrible acts, but didn't enslave thousands of people.
You can criticize people who are dictating mass evil. To compare John Lydon to Steve Jobs is bizarre. One is one who speaks what he feels and hurts very few, the other has enslaved many.
That sentence I used can be used against me, but in this context I am showing what I mean.
This is just a thread diversion anyway. I was given some crap about why Lydon and Morrissey are poor and then criticized for my defense and yet all I see from the two attackers is 'Dad' and nobody else as someone to look up to.
I offered names and all anyone else does is say that you are wrong and call you out for a view that Steve Jobs was just a bit shitty. Jobs changed lives, but he also enslaved lives.
My people to look up to have never done that.
Im not comparing anyone to anyone, Im just saying you cant have it both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThis thread was for people to say who they look up to. Very few have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThose threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
Other threads have been made by people who support terrible things. Nobody I like supports terrible things. Maybe they committed terrible acts, but didn't enslave thousands of people.
You can criticize people who are dictating mass evil. To compare John Lydon to Steve Jobs is bizarre. One is one who speaks what he feels and hurts very few, the other has enslaved many.
That sentence I used can be used against me, but in this context I am showing what I mean.
I can though. My mind is ever evolving and I am not the same constantly. Words used today will not be the same as 3 months ago. I am not the same person. And likewise, 5 months later. It will be me, but not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisIm not comparing anyone to anyone, Im just saying you cant have it both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThis thread was for people to say who they look up to. Very few have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThose threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
Other threads have been made by people who support terrible things. Nobody I like supports terrible things. Maybe they committed terrible acts, but didn't enslave thousands of people.
You can criticize people who are dictating mass evil. To compare John Lydon to Steve Jobs is bizarre. One is one who speaks what he feels and hurts very few, the other has enslaved many.
That sentence I used can be used against me, but in this context I am showing what I mean.
I think you're giving yourself a bit too much credit there mate. You only changed your screen name ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI can though. My mind is ever evolving and I am not the same constantly. Words used today will not be the same as 3 months ago. I am not the same person. And likewise, 5 months later. It will be me, but not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisIm not comparing anyone to anyone, Im just saying you cant have it both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThis thread was for people to say who they look up to. Very few have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThose threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
Other threads have been made by people who support terrible things. Nobody I like supports terrible things. Maybe they committed terrible acts, but didn't enslave thousands of people.
You can criticize people who are dictating mass evil. To compare John Lydon to Steve Jobs is bizarre. One is one who speaks what he feels and hurts very few, the other has enslaved many.
That sentence I used can be used against me, but in this context I am showing what I mean.
Perhaps. I look up to those people, I don't like Jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisI think you're giving yourself a bit too much credit there mate. You only changed your screen name ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI can though. My mind is ever evolving and I am not the same constantly. Words used today will not be the same as 3 months ago. I am not the same person. And likewise, 5 months later. It will be me, but not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisIm not comparing anyone to anyone, Im just saying you cant have it both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfThis thread was for people to say who they look up to. Very few have done so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisThose threads werent written for you, they we written by people who's opinion differs from yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfWell, Steve Jobs was not such a great man when you add it all up. Do I look up to him? No. He was a businessman and didn't respect human rights. He also said nothing to me as a human being. If you cannot say anything to me then you don't matter and Jobs didn't matter. I would imagine many learned to make fire, but did it change their mental landscape? That is where language and art beats plastic technology. Morrissey changed more minds than Steve Jobs ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisSo long as you have aknowledged your hypocrisy ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfSure, about people who employ slave labour who also don't receive health benefits when they are dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MemphisYou do it all the time in threads people have created to aknowledge someones passing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Nobody is dying here.
Morrissey might criticize the Chinese, but he never actually enslaved them.
You cant have it both ways my man ;)
Other threads have been made by people who support terrible things. Nobody I like supports terrible things. Maybe they committed terrible acts, but didn't enslave thousands of people.
You can criticize people who are dictating mass evil. To compare John Lydon to Steve Jobs is bizarre. One is one who speaks what he feels and hurts very few, the other has enslaved many.
That sentence I used can be used against me, but in this context I am showing what I mean.
Others, post your own lists. You reticent cunts.
My old man has been a great role model as a husband, father, professional and just genuine person. Work wise my first platoon sergeant was a great leader and Soldier. Politically Ron Paul is someone I admire not just b/c we share common beliefs but that he has a set of principles and sticks to them. Outside of them I can't think of anyone that when faced with a decision I reflect on how they would deal with it although I'm sure there are more.
Miles I can see your point of view, and I would not blame you for not wanting to be a parent but don't miss out for the sin's of your father my friend.I have two children a Son and Daughter and a Granddaughter it make's my life complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
People to look up to well no one really bar my Father, I feel I don't need to look up to anyone rich or famous, when our time is up remember we come into this World the same and go out the same.
Of course people should have respect, for there achievements, but to look up to very few I can think of.;D
why does everyone hate on morrissey anyway? people always say he's so depressing.
i just don't see it. he wrote songs full of wit and keen observation full of feeling.
he's not depressing at all.
Half wit fuck in waste of space, what he need's is a good steak veggie prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
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Originally Posted by Dia bandoHalf wit fuck in waste of space, what he need's is a good steak veggie prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
i'm sure you're a real catch.