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Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
I like this match up. How do we see it going?
I have a feeling Chavez will pressurize Lee into succumbing to a 2nd half stoppage.
If it goes the distance, has Lee got any chance of getting a decision against Chavez Jr in Texas? Its hard to believe.
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Lee going to lose whatever he does...Texas rules mean one thing...CHEATER STATE rules
Job biscuit (bad state of affairs)!!!
eh eh!!!
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Another goldfish being fed to the......
Gee... I'm at a loss here. Can't very well compare Chavez Jr. to a shark. That would be insulting to "shark-kind".
Ok. Another goldfish being fed to the big grouper.
C'mon........ Lee? No offense to Lee fans, but... what credentials does Lee have that would make him a dangerous opponent to Baby Chavez? He's slow... he's clumsy... and not that hard to hit. What does he bring to the table for Chavez? He doesn't strike me as a particularly hard puncher. So he's slow, and not a big puncher. Seems tailor-made for Chavez Jr. Daddy must be pleased.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
I think Andy Lee could pull this out. Andy has good handspeed, solid power, and he's a southpaw. Andy is also a bigger middleweight at 6'2 he has 2 inches on JCJr. If nothing else Lee should help prepare JCJr for a fight vs Sergio Martinez. You better believe Andy will get solid sparring in though, he'll be training with Jonathan Banks & the rest of the Manny Steward crew. I would LOVE for Andy to pull off the upset, but to do so he needs to start quick, land some combos, but realize that he'll have to be accurate, not waste energy, and wear JCJr down. I think everybody is correct in their assumptions that Andy won't get a decision, in fact he'll have to try his damnedest not to get hurt or wobbled at all because the fight will get stopped early if he does. It's a good thing he has Manny in his corner though.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
I do wish this fight would not take place in Texas. That aside, I think Lee is a more refined boxer and if he can keep giving Jr angles he'll have relatively easy time.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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El Kabong
I think Andy Lee could pull this out. Andy has good handspeed, solid power, and he's a southpaw. Andy is also a bigger middleweight at 6'2 he has 2 inches on JCJr. If nothing else Lee should help prepare JCJr for a fight vs Sergio Martinez. You better believe Andy will get solid sparring in though, he'll be training with Jonathan Banks & the rest of the Manny Steward crew. I would LOVE for Andy to pull off the upset, but to do so he needs to start quick, land some combos, but realize that he'll have to be accurate, not waste energy, and wear JCJr down. I think everybody is correct in their assumptions that Andy won't get a decision, in fact he'll have to try his damnedest not to get hurt or wobbled at all because the fight will get stopped early if he does. It's a good thing he has Manny in his corner though.
Not nearly as much as I would, Lyle.
However, I wish I was as positive about that as you. You find Lee quick with his hands? I just haven't seen that in the few fights I've seen. A big puncher? Ditto on that one. Ok, so he IS a southpaw. That should give him some advantages. And if he's got Manny in his corner, that's another plus. Oh how I would LOVE to see Junior dumped on his coddled ass. He's (Lee) got his work cut out for him, though. And Manny should remove "get a decision win" from Lee's gameplan. He's not going to get it, unless he knocks down Baby Chavez in every round.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
I'd also love to see the upset here but Chavez Jr has progressed to a level above that of Lee's imo
I don't think JCJr will have it all his way but I see him stopping Lee in the later rounds
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
I think Lee can hurt JC....he's got to use a little defense and PLEASE dig to the body a bit. Right hook to the body, left cross up top, right hook up top. If Chavez starts leaning in or reaching then use the uppercut! Andy has got some dangerous hands 20 KO's in 28 wins.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Lee brings a few attributes to the table in this fight that Chavez hasn't had to deal with yet in his career. (1) As Lyle mentioned, he's a southpaw. Junior has been kept away from southpaws. I assume purposefully because he hasn't faced a southpaw in about 5 years. Notably, in his recent little run, with wins over Manfredo, Zbik and the like, not one of the boxers were southpaws. Additionally, Arum turned down Lee as opponent in the past because he was a southpaw. (2) He has more world level experience than Junior. He was an Olympian and faced Gennady Golovkin, Alfredo Angulo and Hassan N'Jikam. In the professional ranks, he's been moved slowly, but he's still been in tougher than Junior. (3) At 27, he's the freshest of any Junior's recent opponents.
Junior's advantages are his brute strength, his size (corrolary of the strength) and his chin.
Lee's not hyper fast, but he's not slow. He's probably average on speed. He has enough pop to keep his opponents honest.
My initial thoughts are that Lee may be able to outbox Junior and Junior may be able to make Lee uncomfortable by crowding him and forcing the action. It's a good fight. What are the opening odds?
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
I think Chavez stops him late.
I could see Lee winning but he has to hurt Chavez IMO...JR will probably be a Cruiserweight in the ring come fight night. If he can't hurt him or at least get his respect...he'll be up a creek without a paddle :-X
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Why the hell DiBella agreed to have this fight in Texas is beyond me. He better be on the commissions ass to make sure they do their drug testing, that they have a competent ref in the ring, and no Gale Van Hoy as a judge. He also better be on the WBC to make sure they also enforce prefight drug testing and the mandatory 30 day & 7 day weigh-ins.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Why the hell DiBella agreed to have this fight in Texas is beyond me. He better be on the commissions ass to make sure they do their drug testing, that they have a competent ref in the ring, and no Gale Van Hoy as a judge. He also better be on the WBC to make sure they also enforce prefight drug testing and the mandatory 30 day & 7 day weigh-ins.
The WBC? Otherwise known as the Mexican Mafia? With Sulaiman as the Godfather and Papa Chavez as Sonny? Fat chance. If Lee doesn't KTFO Chavez, he loses the fight. And THAT'S not even a sure thing.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Diane
Why the hell DiBella agreed to have this fight in Texas is beyond me. He better be on the commissions ass to make sure they do their drug testing, that they have a competent ref in the ring, and no Gale Van Hoy as a judge. He also better be on the WBC to make sure they also enforce prefight drug testing and the mandatory 30 day & 7 day weigh-ins.
The WBC? Otherwise known as the Mexican Mafia? With Sulaiman as the Godfather and Papa Chavez as Sonny? Fat chance. If Lee doesn't KTFO Chavez, he loses the fight. And THAT'S not even a sure thing.
I know, that's exactly why DiBella needs to keep on eye on them, and make sure things are done properly.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
If Lee keeps the fight in the middle of the ring, he's got a good chance at winning because Junior can be outboxed. Lee also needs to maintain his distance. If Junior can get inside on Lee or put Lee on the ropes, Junior takes it. Junior hasn't stopped a lot of guys, which is a bit surprising considering the level of opposition recently, so a safe bet is probably Junior by decision. Has Junior ever been down in a fight? I can't recall a time when he has. Lee may be the biggest puncher he's been in with. As I said before, it's pretty solid fight. Best opponent for each so far.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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TitoFan
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Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
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Rantcatrat
If Lee keeps the fight in the middle of the ring, he's got a good chance at winning because Junior can be outboxed. Lee also needs to maintain his distance. If Junior can get inside on Lee or put Lee on the ropes, Junior takes it. Junior hasn't stopped a lot of guys, which is a bit surprising considering the level of opposition recently, so a safe bet is probably Junior by decision. Has Junior ever been down in a fight? I can't recall a time when he has. Lee may be the biggest puncher he's been in with. As I said before, it's pretty solid fight. Best opponent for each so far.
Rubio hits harder than Lee
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
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Rantcatrat
If Lee keeps the fight in the middle of the ring, he's got a good chance at winning because Junior can be outboxed. Lee also needs to maintain his distance. If Junior can get inside on Lee or put Lee on the ropes, Junior takes it. Junior hasn't stopped a lot of guys, which is a bit surprising considering the level of opposition recently, so a safe bet is probably Junior by decision. Has Junior ever been down in a fight? I can't recall a time when he has. Lee may be the biggest puncher he's been in with. As I said before, it's pretty solid fight. Best opponent for each so far.
Rubio hits harder than Lee
Not certain about that, but imo Rubio is still a tougher opponent than Lee
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
If Lee keeps the fight in the middle of the ring, he's got a good chance at winning because Junior can be outboxed. Lee also needs to maintain his distance. If Junior can get inside on Lee or put Lee on the ropes, Junior takes it. Junior hasn't stopped a lot of guys, which is a bit surprising considering the level of opposition recently, so a safe bet is probably Junior by decision. Has Junior ever been down in a fight? I can't recall a time when he has. Lee may be the biggest puncher he's been in with. As I said before, it's pretty solid fight. Best opponent for each so far.
Rubio hits harder than Lee
Not certain about that, but imo Rubio is still a tougher opponent than Lee
With 86% of Rubio's wins coming by knock out, as oppose to Lee's 71% the numbers say he does
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
I think it's more like 76% to 68% but numbers wise I guess your right, but that doesn't really tell the whole story. Do they have a common opponent?
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Violent Demise
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
Yes, my mentally-challenged fellow saddo'er..... we have no such currency. We use the dollar as our currency. I would've thought your 5th-grade education would've covered basic facts such as these. But it's wrong of me to expect more from a "gangsta wannabe" from the slums of L.A., if that's in fact where you were hatched. My bad.
:)
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Why did Lee agree to this? He'll need a knockout to get a split decision.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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killersheep
Why did Lee agree to this? He'll need a knockout to get a split decision.
Lee agreed to this because it's the biggest money fight he can get and he has at least some chance of beating Chavez, although I agree about the KO to get a draw bit.
Chavez, Arum, Martinez and Di Bella have to sign an sgreement that Chavez fights Martinez after the Lee fight. Martinez already signed it. Chavez has to sign it before the Lee fight or he gets stripped and it'll be a nontitle fight against Lee. The question is does Chavez sign then say a month or so after the fight that he can't make 160 anymore and is moving up. I'd say definitely yes but what's he going to do at 168? He's going to have to fight somebody credible up there to get a belt and there's zero chance he beats Ward, Bute etc. So hopefully the motherfunker now actually has to get in the ring with Martinez. Maybe he won't even bother trying to make 160 and will weigh in for the Martinez fight well over the limit. I don't give him any chance against Martinez in a fair fight. I really want to see him lose for the first time.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Everyone knows I'm a big Martinez supporter, but I actually believe Chavez Jr. has made improvements and an outcome with a fight with Martinez is far from certain. He'll be the biggest opponent Martinez has faced. It's not a landslide.
As far as who is tougher as opponent for Chavez with regards to Lee & Rubio. It's a tough call. Lee is a better boxer than Rubio. Lee is a southpaw. Rubio is a harder man than Lee and has more endurance. I'm not sure.
Have they rule on the decision in that fight given the lack of drug tests?
Did anyone notice that Chavez Jr. hasn't fought in Nevada since the Troy Rowland fight where he caught taking ped's?
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
Everyone knows I'm a big Martinez supporter, but I actually believe Chavez Jr. has made improvements and an outcome with a fight with Martinez is far from certain. He'll be the biggest opponent Martinez has faced. It's not a landslide.
As far as who is tougher as opponent for Chavez with regards to Lee & Rubio. It's a tough call. Lee is a better boxer than Rubio. Lee is a southpaw. Rubio is a harder man than Lee and has more endurance. I'm not sure.
Have they rule on the decision in that fight given the lack of drug tests?
Did anyone notice that Chavez Jr. hasn't fought in Nevada since the Troy Rowland fight where he caught taking ped's?
I've read that the Texas commission doesn't do post fight drug testing. I know the WBC does...but they forgot to test Chavez & Rubio when they fought :vd:
Sergio Martinez vs Julio Cesar Chavez Jr: Chavez Rejects Random Drug Testing? - Bad Left Hook
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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TitoFan
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
Yes, my mentally-challenged fellow saddo'er..... we have no such currency. We use the dollar as our currency. I would've thought your 5th-grade education would've covered basic facts such as these. But it's wrong of me to expect more from a "gangsta wannabe" from the slums of L.A., if that's in fact where you were hatched. My bad.
:)
I did teach me basic facts. Like it ain't good enough to become a US state. It ain't shit without it's US daddy. And damn near 75% of them never seen the 5th grade and can't eat if it wasn't for welfare. You're pretty stupid. So I'm sure you'll take this as an attack. It's not. It's just basic facts
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
Everyone knows I'm a big Martinez supporter, but I actually believe Chavez Jr. has made improvements and an outcome with a fight with Martinez is far from certain. He'll be the biggest opponent Martinez has faced. It's not a landslide.
As far as who is tougher as opponent for Chavez with regards to Lee & Rubio. It's a tough call. Lee is a better boxer than Rubio. Lee is a southpaw. Rubio is a harder man than Lee and has more endurance. I'm not sure.
Have they rule on the decision in that fight given the lack of drug tests?
Did anyone notice that Chavez Jr. hasn't fought in Nevada since the Troy Rowland fight where he caught taking ped's?
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Chavez beat Martinez. He'll murder Lee.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
Yes, my mentally-challenged fellow saddo'er..... we have no such currency. We use the dollar as our currency. I would've thought your 5th-grade education would've covered basic facts such as these. But it's wrong of me to expect more from a "gangsta wannabe" from the slums of L.A., if that's in fact where you were hatched. My bad.
:)
I did teach me basic facts. Like it ain't good enough to become a US state. It ain't shit without it's US daddy. And damn near 75% of them never seen the 5th grade and can't eat if it wasn't for welfare. You're pretty stupid. So I'm sure you'll take this as an attack. It's not. It's just basic facts
Basic facts? Show me the reliable sources on those "facts". Otherwise, it's a racist attack and I hope the people who administrate this forum see it as such.
By the way, you probably meant "It did teach me basic facts", and "It ain't shit without its US daddy" (improper use of apostrophe).
The majority of us Puerto Ricans are bilingual. We speak English and Spanish fluently. You can't even communicate in English properly. We have a broad base of highly educated professionals, who in addition to being fully bilingual, have at least a basic knowledge of the world around us. You come from the slums of east L.A. or wherever the hell you're from.... and your ignorance of anything beyond the reaches of your 'hood makes you the quintessential "ugly American".
You routinely insult people of other races and nationalities, and insult women as well. You hide behind a keyboard and use your thug talk to intimidate those who for some weird reason fear your cyber-bullying. You are a cartoon character, from your idiotic avatar of some dude drinking and holding a gun, to your short, staccato sentences.
Sometimes you piss me off..... most times you just make me laugh. How the mods in this forum allow you to remain in here is beyond me. Funny how you are so brave and aggresive through the Internet. You're like the little puny alien in "Men in Black" who sits at the controls of a big ugly alien monster. Scary on the outside..... and a little insignificant punk on the inside.
I don't like you, but I do feel sorry for you.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Eh, just hand the cards in now. Not just on styles but also that the TX syndicate, commission is corrupt as shit. We'll see another El gordo Lt heavyweight version of Chavez and I just don't think Lee's face will hold together and his punching from the backseat mobility will fade out late. He won't go meak at all, but he'll go.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
Yes, my mentally-challenged fellow saddo'er..... we have no such currency. We use the dollar as our currency. I would've thought your 5th-grade education would've covered basic facts such as these. But it's wrong of me to expect more from a "gangsta wannabe" from the slums of L.A., if that's in fact where you were hatched. My bad.
:)
I did teach me basic facts. Like it ain't good enough to become a US state. It ain't shit without it's US daddy. And damn near 75% of them never seen the 5th grade and can't eat if it wasn't for welfare. You're pretty stupid. So I'm sure you'll take this as an attack. It's not. It's just basic facts
Basic facts? Show me the reliable sources on those "facts". Otherwise, it's a racist attack and I hope the people who administrate this forum see it as such.
By the way, you probably meant "
It did teach me basic facts", and "It ain't shit without
its US daddy" (improper use of apostrophe).
The majority of us Puerto Ricans are bilingual. We speak English and Spanish fluently. You can't even communicate in English properly. We have a broad base of highly educated professionals, who in addition to being fully bilingual, have at least a basic knowledge of the world around us. You come from the slums of east L.A. or wherever the hell you're from.... and your ignorance of anything beyond the reaches of your 'hood makes you the quintessential "ugly American".
You routinely insult people of other races and nationalities, and insult women as well. You hide behind a keyboard and use your thug talk to intimidate those who for some weird reason fear your cyber-bullying. You are a
cartoon character, from your idiotic avatar of some dude drinking and holding a gun, to your short, staccato sentences.
Sometimes you piss me off..... most times you just make me laugh. How the mods in this forum allow you to remain in here is beyond me. Funny how you are so brave and aggresive through the Internet. You're like the little puny alien in "Men in Black" who sits at the controls of a big ugly alien monster. Scary on the outside..... and a little insignificant punk on the inside.
I don't like you, but I do feel sorry for you.
I'm posting from work off a fucking cell phone. Spelling and grammar always suffer. But since it makes you feel smart to point them out, than keep doing it.
Your opinion means nothing to me. I don't care if you like or dislike me. As for my opinion of you? There isn't one. I don't like or dislike you cuz you don't matter enough for me to form an opinion about. You're letters on a monitor. Nothing more: I acknowledge you for one reason and one reason only. To amuse myself. That's it. You know nothing about the sport. And you're like the most predictable poster here. You use the same recycled ass lines that I'm guessing are suppose to be put downs. And I'm guessing I'm suppose to feel insulted by them. Maybe next time. And there will be a next time. Cuz it's all you got. You can't counter what I say cuz you can't counter the truth. And you know it. It's the reason why the coward in you labeled my previous post racist and why your praying the staff intervenes. But theres nothing they can do. You don't punish someone for telling the truth
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Chavez and texas to rob lee.
Just ask mallignaggi lol.
I prefer Andy lee tho.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Lee has never once in his life faced a body assault like the ones Chavez gives out. I don't think he'll be up to it. Chavez by mid round stoppage after he forces the Puerto Ric..,I mean Irish fighter to quit in his corner.
Oh it will be over before Lee quits. The ref and judges, with Mexican pesos flowing out of their pockets, will stop the fight at the first Baby Chavez flurry.
;)
They could also throw in some of that high value PR money to really sweeten them up. Oh that's right. No such currency exists. My bad
Yes, my mentally-challenged fellow saddo'er..... we have no such currency. We use the dollar as our currency. I would've thought your 5th-grade education would've covered basic facts such as these. But it's wrong of me to expect more from a "gangsta wannabe" from the slums of L.A., if that's in fact where you were hatched. My bad.
:)
I did teach me basic facts. Like it ain't good enough to become a US state. It ain't shit without it's US daddy. And damn near 75% of them never seen the 5th grade and can't eat if it wasn't for welfare. You're pretty stupid. So I'm sure you'll take this as an attack. It's not. It's just basic facts
Basic facts? Show me the reliable sources on those "facts". Otherwise, it's a racist attack and I hope the people who administrate this forum see it as such.
By the way, you probably meant "
It did teach me basic facts", and "It ain't shit without
its US daddy" (improper use of apostrophe).
The majority of us Puerto Ricans are bilingual. We speak English and Spanish fluently. You can't even communicate in English properly. We have a broad base of highly educated professionals, who in addition to being fully bilingual, have at least a basic knowledge of the world around us. You come from the slums of east L.A. or wherever the hell you're from.... and your ignorance of anything beyond the reaches of your 'hood makes you the quintessential "ugly American".
You routinely insult people of other races and nationalities, and insult women as well. You hide behind a keyboard and use your thug talk to intimidate those who for some weird reason fear your cyber-bullying. You are a
cartoon character, from your idiotic avatar of some dude drinking and holding a gun, to your short, staccato sentences.
Sometimes you piss me off..... most times you just make me laugh. How the mods in this forum allow you to remain in here is beyond me. Funny how you are so brave and aggresive through the Internet. You're like the little puny alien in "Men in Black" who sits at the controls of a big ugly alien monster. Scary on the outside..... and a little insignificant punk on the inside.
I don't like you, but I do feel sorry for you.
I'm posting from work off a fucking cell phone. Spelling and grammar always suffer. But since it makes you feel smart to point them out, than keep doing it.
Your opinion means nothing to me. I don't care if you like or dislike me. As for my opinion of you? There isn't one. I don't like or dislike you cuz you don't matter enough for me to form an opinion about. You're letters on a monitor. Nothing more: I acknowledge you for one reason and one reason only. To amuse myself. That's it. You know nothing about the sport. And you're like the most predictable poster here. You use the same recycled ass lines that I'm guessing are suppose to be put downs. And I'm guessing I'm suppose to feel insulted by them. Maybe next time. And there will be a next time. Cuz it's all you got. You can't counter what I say cuz you can't counter the truth. And you know it. It's the reason why the coward in you labeled my previous post racist and why your praying the staff intervenes. But theres nothing they can do. You don't punish someone for telling the truth
You're a racist jackass and everybody here knows it. Again, why you've been allowed to remain in this forum is beyond comprehension. Most of the people on here have some degree of intelligence. You're an exception. You get by on thuggish talk, insults, and intimidation. Intimidation that only works on weak-minded people that don't realize they are being insulted by some street punk who hides behind his keyboard because he isn't man enough to warrant respect in the real world.
You've traded insults with quite a number of people on here.... yet you still manage to be around. You've gotten your ass banned a few times, and it's only a matter of time before someone gets fed up with your racist bullshit and cans you for good. You express yourself the way you do to me, only because we'll never be face-to-face so you can repeat the bullshit to my face. The Internet is the ultimate "bravery pill".
You're a sorry ass ignoramus, and didn't even have an answer when I responded to your childish claims about Puerto Ricans. Again, I'm fluent in TWO languages. You can't even grunt your way through English very well. I am a college-educated professional. You are most likely a jobless street punk who's gotten his ass kicked one time too many. So you take out your frustrations on the keyboard. Make you feel like a man, does it?
You're pathetic.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You're a racist jackass and everybody here knows it. Again, why you've been allowed to remain in this forum is beyond comprehension. Most of the people on here have some degree of intelligence. You're an exception. You get by on thuggish talk, insults, and intimidation. Intimidation that only works on weak-minded people that don't realize they are being insulted by some street punk who hides behind his keyboard because he isn't man enough to warrant respect in the real world.
You've traded insults with quite a number of people on here.... yet you still manage to be around. You've gotten your ass banned a few times, and it's only a matter of time before someone gets fed up with your racist bullshit and cans you for good. You express yourself the way you do to me, only because we'll never be face-to-face so you can repeat the bullshit to my face. The Internet is the ultimate "bravery pill".
You're a sorry ass ignoramus, and didn't even have an answer when I responded to your childish claims about Puerto Ricans. Again, I'm fluent in TWO languages. You can't even grunt your way through English very well. I am a college-educated professional. You are most likely a jobless street punk who's gotten his ass kicked one time too many. So you take out your frustrations on the keyboard. Make you feel like a man, does it?
Tito my man, you get nowhere arguing with vermin like VD, just put the little retarded faggot on ignore, problem solved.
cheers
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You're a racist jackass and everybody here knows it. Again, why you've been allowed to remain in this forum is beyond comprehension. Most of the people on here have some degree of intelligence. You're an exception. You get by on thuggish talk, insults, and intimidation. Intimidation that only works on weak-minded people that don't realize they are being insulted by some street punk who hides behind his keyboard because he isn't man enough to warrant respect in the real world.
You've traded insults with quite a number of people on here.... yet you still manage to be around. You've gotten your ass banned a few times, and it's only a matter of time before someone gets fed up with your racist bullshit and cans you for good. You express yourself the way you do to me, only because we'll never be face-to-face so you can repeat the bullshit to my face. The Internet is the ultimate "bravery pill".
You're a sorry ass ignoramus, and didn't even have an answer when I responded to your childish claims about Puerto Ricans. Again, I'm fluent in TWO languages. You can't even grunt your way through English very well. I am a college-educated professional. You are most likely a jobless street punk who's gotten his ass kicked one time too many. So you take out your frustrations on the keyboard. Make you feel like a man, does it?
Tito my man, you get nowhere arguing with vermin like VD, just put the little retarded faggot on ignore, problem solved.
cheers
Hey bro... I know you're right. It's not like it's the first time I've had words with the dude. And I know I'm not going to change his mindset. Reason I don't put him on ignore is his tendency to spout his racist (and even sexist) bullshit at any time, and for some inexplicable, masochistic reason... I feel the need to come back at him.
Don't worry though.... it's not like I'm losing any sleep over it. Matter of fact, it usually ends up with me poking fun at him, since he's so easy to make fun of. I swear, it's almost like the dude's a cartoon character playing a specific part, that of a "gangsta homeboy".
If it gets REAL bad, and puts us in danger of getting dropkicked by the mods, I'll put the loser on ignore. (Or... I might just open a separate thread on "Off Topic").
;D
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
At what weight does Lee usually enter the ring fight night?
On a side note I can't believe I'm saying this but im glad WBC is reinstating same day weight in. Too bad for Lee this fight is not taking place after July 2nd.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You're a racist jackass and everybody here knows it. Again, why you've been allowed to remain in this forum is beyond comprehension. Most of the people on here have some degree of intelligence. You're an exception. You get by on thuggish talk, insults, and intimidation. Intimidation that only works on weak-minded people that don't realize they are being insulted by some street punk who hides behind his keyboard because he isn't man enough to warrant respect in the real world.
You've traded insults with quite a number of people on here.... yet you still manage to be around. You've gotten your ass banned a few times, and it's only a matter of time before someone gets fed up with your racist bullshit and cans you for good. You express yourself the way you do to me, only because we'll never be face-to-face so you can repeat the bullshit to my face. The Internet is the ultimate "bravery pill".
You're a sorry ass ignoramus, and didn't even have an answer when I responded to your childish claims about Puerto Ricans. Again, I'm fluent in TWO languages. You can't even grunt your way through English very well. I am a college-educated professional. You are most likely a jobless street punk who's gotten his ass kicked one time too many. So you take out your frustrations on the keyboard. Make you feel like a man, does it?
Tito my man, you get nowhere arguing with vermin like VD, just put the little retarded faggot on ignore, problem solved.
cheers
Hey bro... I know you're right. It's not like it's the first time I've had words with the dude. And I know I'm not going to change his mindset. Reason I don't put him on ignore is his tendency to spout his racist (and even sexist) bullshit at any time, and for some inexplicable, masochistic reason... I feel the need to come back at him.
Don't worry though.... it's not like I'm losing any sleep over it. Matter of fact, it usually ends up with me poking fun at him, since he's so easy to make fun of. I swear, it's almost like the dude's a cartoon character playing a specific part, that of a "gangsta homeboy".
If it gets REAL bad, and puts us in danger of getting dropkicked by the mods, I'll put the loser on ignore. (Or... I might just open a separate thread on "Off Topic").
;D
Or..........you two can settle this once and for all with my previous suggestion. I told you I would gladly be the judge. You two just need to whip them out, so we can finally see who has the bigger one. ;D :camera:
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You're a racist jackass and everybody here knows it. Again, why you've been allowed to remain in this forum is beyond comprehension. Most of the people on here have some degree of intelligence. You're an exception. You get by on thuggish talk, insults, and intimidation. Intimidation that only works on weak-minded people that don't realize they are being insulted by some street punk who hides behind his keyboard because he isn't man enough to warrant respect in the real world.
You've traded insults with quite a number of people on here.... yet you still manage to be around. You've gotten your ass banned a few times, and it's only a matter of time before someone gets fed up with your racist bullshit and cans you for good. You express yourself the way you do to me, only because we'll never be face-to-face so you can repeat the bullshit to my face. The Internet is the ultimate "bravery pill".
You're a sorry ass ignoramus, and didn't even have an answer when I responded to your childish claims about Puerto Ricans. Again, I'm fluent in TWO languages. You can't even grunt your way through English very well. I am a college-educated professional. You are most likely a jobless street punk who's gotten his ass kicked one time too many. So you take out your frustrations on the keyboard. Make you feel like a man, does it?
Tito my man, you get nowhere arguing with vermin like VD, just put the little retarded faggot on ignore, problem solved.
cheers
Hey bro... I know you're right. It's not like it's the first time I've had words with the dude. And I know I'm not going to change his mindset. Reason I don't put him on ignore is his tendency to spout his racist (and even sexist) bullshit at any time, and for some inexplicable, masochistic reason... I feel the need to come back at him.
Don't worry though.... it's not like I'm losing any sleep over it. Matter of fact, it usually ends up with me poking fun at him, since he's so easy to make fun of. I swear, it's almost like the dude's a cartoon character playing a specific part, that of a "gangsta homeboy".
If it gets REAL bad, and puts us in danger of getting dropkicked by the mods, I'll put the loser on ignore. (Or... I might just open a separate thread on "Off Topic").
;D
I didn't think you were losing any sleep over it Tito, to tell you the truth I actually enjoy watching you hand the retard his ass.
I've been posting on boxing forums for close to 10 years, for me it's all about having a little good hearted fun and shooting the shit about boxing. I don't mind a debate/discussion from time to time, it's a good way to learn new things, but I don't waste my time with mentally challenged argumentative clowns like VD.
cheers, BTW, I hope Cotto kicks Floyd's ass in May. ;)
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
In re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Isn't Manny Steward Lee's trainer? If so that should help Lee's chances of winning out in the West Texas town of El Paso. (remember Marty Robbins song?) Steward should have a good plan for Lee.
I really hope Lee can pull a rabbit out of the hat June 16th and take home Baby Chavez' title.
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
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Originally Posted by
Diane
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You're a racist jackass and everybody here knows it. Again, why you've been allowed to remain in this forum is beyond comprehension. Most of the people on here have some degree of intelligence. You're an exception. You get by on thuggish talk, insults, and intimidation. Intimidation that only works on weak-minded people that don't realize they are being insulted by some street punk who hides behind his keyboard because he isn't man enough to warrant respect in the real world.
You've traded insults with quite a number of people on here.... yet you still manage to be around. You've gotten your ass banned a few times, and it's only a matter of time before someone gets fed up with your racist bullshit and cans you for good. You express yourself the way you do to me, only because we'll never be face-to-face so you can repeat the bullshit to my face. The Internet is the ultimate "bravery pill".
You're a sorry ass ignoramus, and didn't even have an answer when I responded to your childish claims about Puerto Ricans. Again, I'm fluent in TWO languages. You can't even grunt your way through English very well. I am a college-educated professional. You are most likely a jobless street punk who's gotten his ass kicked one time too many. So you take out your frustrations on the keyboard. Make you feel like a man, does it?
Tito my man, you get nowhere arguing with vermin like VD, just put the little retarded faggot on ignore, problem solved.
cheers
Hey bro... I know you're right. It's not like it's the first time I've had words with the dude. And I know I'm not going to change his mindset. Reason I don't put him on ignore is his tendency to spout his racist (and even sexist) bullshit at any time, and for some inexplicable, masochistic reason... I feel the need to come back at him.
Don't worry though.... it's not like I'm losing any sleep over it. Matter of fact, it usually ends up with me poking fun at him, since he's so easy to make fun of. I swear, it's almost like the dude's a cartoon character playing a specific part, that of a "gangsta homeboy".
If it gets REAL bad, and puts us in danger of getting dropkicked by the mods, I'll put the loser on ignore. (Or... I might just open a separate thread on "Off Topic").
;D
Or..........you two can settle this once and for all with my previous suggestion. I told you I would gladly be the judge. You two just need to whip them out, so we can finally see who has the bigger one. ;D :camera:
Remember what I found in the Internet (about the proper attire for female judges of this type of contest)? I think there's now an amendment that makes the use of said attire optional, and at the discretion of the better-looking contestant.
;D
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Re: Chavez Jr - Andy Lee / June 16th in Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mars_ax
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
You're a racist jackass and everybody here knows it. Again, why you've been allowed to remain in this forum is beyond comprehension. Most of the people on here have some degree of intelligence. You're an exception. You get by on thuggish talk, insults, and intimidation. Intimidation that only works on weak-minded people that don't realize they are being insulted by some street punk who hides behind his keyboard because he isn't man enough to warrant respect in the real world.
You've traded insults with quite a number of people on here.... yet you still manage to be around. You've gotten your ass banned a few times, and it's only a matter of time before someone gets fed up with your racist bullshit and cans you for good. You express yourself the way you do to me, only because we'll never be face-to-face so you can repeat the bullshit to my face. The Internet is the ultimate "bravery pill".
You're a sorry ass ignoramus, and didn't even have an answer when I responded to your childish claims about Puerto Ricans. Again, I'm fluent in TWO languages. You can't even grunt your way through English very well. I am a college-educated professional. You are most likely a jobless street punk who's gotten his ass kicked one time too many. So you take out your frustrations on the keyboard. Make you feel like a man, does it?
Tito my man, you get nowhere arguing with vermin like VD, just put the little retarded faggot on ignore, problem solved.
cheers
Hey bro... I know you're right. It's not like it's the first time I've had words with the dude. And I know I'm not going to change his mindset. Reason I don't put him on ignore is his tendency to spout his racist (and even sexist) bullshit at any time, and for some inexplicable, masochistic reason... I feel the need to come back at him.
Don't worry though.... it's not like I'm losing any sleep over it. Matter of fact, it usually ends up with me poking fun at him, since he's so easy to make fun of. I swear, it's almost like the dude's a cartoon character playing a specific part, that of a "gangsta homeboy".
If it gets REAL bad, and puts us in danger of getting dropkicked by the mods, I'll put the loser on ignore. (Or... I might just open a separate thread on "Off Topic").
;D
I didn't think you were losing any sleep over it Tito, to tell you the truth I actually enjoy watching you hand the retard his ass.
I've been posting on boxing forums for close to 10 years, for me it's all about having a little good hearted fun and shooting the shit about boxing. I don't mind a debate/discussion from time to time, it's a good way to learn new things, but I don't waste my time with mentally challenged argumentative clowns like VD.
cheers, BTW, I hope Cotto kicks Floyd's ass in May. ;)
I see it the same way (the forums, I mean). And it's not like one can't have a heated debate every now and then. But when you gotta insult people to make your point, then you probably belong in some other type of forum. And yeah... I'm hoping for a Cotto win too. Whatever happens, it should be a good fight. Cotto's fights are always good.