Victor Ortiz vs. Josesito Lopez/Humberto Soto vs. Lucas Matthysse

Not much discussion of it, but it seems like it could be a great styles match-up of boxer versus puncher. I wonder if Soto's diet of soft opposition finally catches up with him or if he can box Matthysse to a decision. It's Soto's first foray into the junior welterweight division, Matthysse's territory. Anyone else excited about this fight? Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Not much discussion of it, but it seems like it could be a great styles match-up of boxer versus puncher. I wonder if Soto's diet of soft opposition finally catches up with him or if he can box Matthysse to a decision. It's Soto's first foray into the junior welterweight division, Matthysse's territory. Anyone else excited about this fight? Thoughts?

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I think it should be a fairly decent fight. I'll definitely be downloading it to watch the next day. I'd be tempted to say that Matthysse would stop Soto at this stage. I like Matthysse, plus its Soto's first pop at 140. Who knows. I've seen Soto box beautifully on the back foot, and he'll defo need that against Matthysse.

I must have my brain clouded with smoke, I had no idea this fight was going on.
This is another great fight.
Damn, GBP are stepping it up recently.

Matthysse arguably beat Judah AND Alexander. The guy can box to go along with his punching power unlike his countryman Maidana.

Soto is a damn good boxer, but he's a good deal smaller and has been around for a while.

I'll go with Matthysse by late stoppage.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Matthysse arguably beat Judah AND Alexander. The guy can box to go along with his punching power unlike his countryman Maidana.

Soto is a damn good boxer, but he's a good deal smaller and has been around for a while.

I'll go with Matthysse by late stoppage.

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yep matthysse got jobbed out of 2 wins but I guess that's the price argentines apparently have to pay in their first few fights in the states, see sergio...is this on the lee-chavez undercard cause if it is hell yeah. As ya say hulk maidana is just pure power and brawler, matthysse actually thinks in there and has power to go with it. Think matthysse takes this, and would love to see maidana-matthysee in the near future

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Matthysse arguably beat Judah AND Alexander. The guy can box to go along with his punching power unlike his countryman Maidana.

Soto is a damn good boxer, but he's a good deal smaller and has been around for a while.

I'll go with Matthysse by late stoppage.

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yep matthysse got jobbed out of 2 wins but I guess that's the price argentines apparently have to pay in their first few fights in the states, see sergio...is this on the lee-chavez undercard cause if it is hell yeah. As ya say hulk maidana is just pure power and brawler, matthysse actually thinks in there and has power to go with it. Think matthysse takes this, and would love to see maidana-matthysee in the near future

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Me too and I like Maidana a lot. Also thought Judah eeked out a win against Matthysse, but Alexander def lost.

Big fan of Soto and he's jumped up before but honestly looked frustrated in looking for power. I don't see him playing the backfoot here and eventually Matthysse straight timing to body and head will catch up. Soto is a tougher, more all around durable 12 round boxer type than a Zab or Devon but he's going to have to keep his head or get sucked in.

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Originally Posted by Hulk

Matthysse arguably beat Judah AND Alexander. The guy can box to go along with his punching power unlike his countryman Maidana.

Soto is a damn good boxer, but he's a good deal smaller and has been around for a while.

I'll go with Matthysse by late stoppage.

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matthyse's technique is usually pretty damn good. he would have gotten a decision against judah or alexander but no one is giving a close decision to the guy from argentina.

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Not much discussion of it, but it seems like it could be a great styles match-up of boxer versus puncher. I wonder if Soto's diet of soft opposition finally catches up with him or if he can box Matthysse to a decision. It's Soto's first foray into the junior welterweight division, Matthysse's territory. Anyone else excited about this fight? Thoughts?

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Hey Rant,
Why don't you just make this the Saturday Night fight thread? Surfer Vic vs. Lopez is the main event.

June 23
At Los Angeles (Showtime): Victor Ortiz vs. Josesito Lopez, 12 rounds, welterweights; Lucas Matthysse vs. Humberto Soto, 12 rounds, WBC junior welterweight eliminator; Julian Ramirez vs. TBA, 4 rounds, featherweights; Jermell Charlo vs. Denis Doughlin, 10 rounds, junior middleweights.

Soto is going to get murdered. It won't last four rounds.

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Not much discussion of it, but it seems like it could be a great styles match-up of boxer versus puncher. I wonder if Soto's diet of soft opposition finally catches up with him or if he can box Matthysse to a decision. It's Soto's first foray into the junior welterweight division, Matthysse's territory. Anyone else excited about this fight? Thoughts?

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Hey Rant,
Why don't you just make this the Saturday Night fight thread? Surfer Vic vs. Lopez is the main event.

June 23
At Los Angeles (Showtime): Victor Ortiz vs. Josesito Lopez, 12 rounds, welterweights; Lucas Matthysse vs. Humberto Soto, 12 rounds, WBC junior welterweight eliminator; Julian Ramirez vs. TBA, 4 rounds, featherweights; Jermell Charlo vs. Denis Doughlin, 10 rounds, junior middleweights.

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Works for me. Clearly, no moderator. But, I'm down. I'll be at home watching it, and could stay on top of it, if you needed me to.

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Not much discussion of it, but it seems like it could be a great styles match-up of boxer versus puncher. I wonder if Soto's diet of soft opposition finally catches up with him or if he can box Matthysse to a decision. It's Soto's first foray into the junior welterweight division, Matthysse's territory. Anyone else excited about this fight? Thoughts?

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Hey Rant,
Why don't you just make this the Saturday Night fight thread? Surfer Vic vs. Lopez is the main event.

June 23
At Los Angeles (Showtime): Victor Ortiz vs. Josesito Lopez, 12 rounds, welterweights; Lucas Matthysse vs. Humberto Soto, 12 rounds, WBC junior welterweight eliminator; Julian Ramirez vs. TBA, 4 rounds, featherweights; Jermell Charlo vs. Denis Doughlin, 10 rounds, junior middleweights.

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Works for me. Clearly, no moderator. But, I'm down. I'll be at home watching it, and could stay on top of it, if you needed me to.

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Cool, I'll ask CFH or one of the other mods to make this the fight thread and sticky it, at least by friday.
Cheers Mr. Rantcat

Thanks for making this the Saturday fight thread and putting a sticky on it. (whoever you are , cheers)
On Showtime Saturday night:
Josesito Lopez is a warmup fight for Ortiz for the vacant WBC Silver welterweight trinket (woohoo) before his big fight with Canelo Alvarez in September. Humberto Soto vs. Lucas Matthysse should be the fight of the night, in my view it's a pick 'um, but with the edge going to Lucas because of his size and power.

Hopefully Ortiz hasnt looked past Lopez as he looks tough and dangerous. Id like to see Ortiz in with Alvarez as I think he has the beating of him but if Ortiz takes Lopez lightly he will come unstuck! Lopez would be a better opponent to Alvarez than anyone hes already fought;)

Bumpity bump in the name of two pages ;D. Ya know, there is something to be said about looking past an opponent. Tons of 'transition' for Ortiz with Berto shift and then being a third option as Alvarez opponent. For a guy coming off a ko in which he was obviously rattled and has melted down prior, it may not be the most intelligent frame of mind. Things happen...cuts, assumptions, blind hash smoking judges, a guy resenting being so blatantly overlooked and refusing to play the foil...never really know.

Soto vs Matthysse is just a quality scrap and cannot wait for the leather to sort out the night.

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Bumpity bump in the name of two pages ;D. Ya know, there is something to be said about looking past an opponent. Tons of 'transition' for Ortiz with Berto shift and then being a third option as Alvarez opponent. For a guy coming off a ko in which he was obviously rattled and has melted down prior, it may not be the most intelligent frame of mind. Things happen...cuts, assumptions, blind hash smoking judges, a guy resenting being so blatantly overlooked and refusing to play the foil...never really know.

Soto vs Matthysse is just a quality scrap and cannot wait for the leather to sort out the night.

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Josesito Lopez is no walkover for Surfer Vic, and if Ortiz lost that would take all the glitter off the fight with Canelo in September. I expect Vic to be ready for Lopez however, and take care of business.

I agree that Soto - Matthysse should be a good one, I like both guys, they usually give it their all.

Except for having to listen to Gus Johnson on Showtime, it should be a decent night of boxing for us fans. That's why god created beer/whiskey and the mute button.
:drunks: :cool:

Showtime extreme is going to start showing undercard fights in a few mins.

Showing some prospects.

Hopefully they provide some excitement and start the night right!!!

I'm looking forward to the Soto vs. Matthysse fight the most. I think it will be the fight of the night. I'm a big Soto fan, so I would love to see him get a big win tonight, in order to hopefully be able to secure some bigger fights.

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Showtime extreme is going to start showing undercard fights in a few mins.

Showing some prospects.

Hopefully they provide some excitement and start the night right!!!

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I'm watching 'Extreme' right now, good stuff, interviews with both Ortiz and Lopez, Lopez is talking the talk, the question is can he walk the walk. Gus is already blithering.:-\

Showtime starts in about an hour, or 9:00 PM ET, Soto vs. Matthysse up first.

I may have to have a few 'lil Brown Ales, to help me get though the telecast.
:beerchug:

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I'm looking forward to the Soto vs. Matthysse fight the most. I think it will be the fight of the night. I'm a big Soto fan, so I would love to see him get a big win tonight, in order to hopefully be able to secure some bigger fights.

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Yo Diane, howdy. :cool:
I like both Soto and Matthysse, so for me, may the best man win.

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I'm looking forward to the Soto vs. Matthysse fight the most. I think it will be the fight of the night. I'm a big Soto fan, so I would love to see him get a big win tonight, in order to hopefully be able to secure some bigger fights.

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Yo Diane, howdy. :cool:
I like both Soto and Matthysse, so for me, may the best man win.

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I like Matthysse too, so I won't be disappointed if he wins. I'm just a bigger Soto fan.

Weigh-in vid:

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Showtime extreme is going to start showing undercard fights in a few mins.

Showing some prospects.

Hopefully they provide some excitement and start the night right!!!

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I'm watching 'Extreme' right now, good stuff, interviews with both Ortiz and Lopez, Lopez is talking the talk, the question is can he walk the walk. Gus is already blithering.:-\

Showtime starts in about an hour, or 9:00 PM ET, Soto vs. Matthysse up first.

I may have to have a few 'lil Brown Ales, to help me get though the telecast.
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You ever drink the same beer two weeks in a row? Lol. I'm having some becks myself tonight

Nice tribute to Johnny Tapia, very sad though.

Here we go with the Showtime card, Gus & Al calling the action, (no Tarver), first up Soto vs. Matthysse, this should be a good one, both pugs are warriors. (10 rounds, Super-lightweights)

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Showtime extreme is going to start showing undercard fights in a few mins.

Showing some prospects.

Hopefully they provide some excitement and start the night right!!!

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I'm watching 'Extreme' right now, good stuff, interviews with both Ortiz and Lopez, Lopez is talking the talk, the question is can he walk the walk. Gus is already blithering.:-\

Showtime starts in about an hour, or 9:00 PM ET, Soto vs. Matthysse up first.

I may have to have a few 'lil Brown Ales, to help me get though the telecast.
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You ever drink the same beer two weeks in a row? Lol

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I keep a variety of mostly imported brews armin, just in case I get thirsty, beer goes well with boxing. ;)
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Soto actually looks bigger than Matthysse.. :-X

Alright, I was wrooong about Jones vs Bailey being a shootout (but we did get a firing squad in the end;D)

But Soto vs Matthysse just has to bring some major sparks! Kicking off in seconds

Gus Johnson...shut your pie hole. Thanks in advance.

This ref is a fucking idiot.

Soto has some nice combos in that first round

Mathysee not landin much but when he does ouch

Caiz is all over Matthysses man junk with warnings. Good busy pace from Soto, 1-0

Amazed Lucas agreed to this being 10 and not 12 rounds

Soto complainin to much n ref getin in way to much and that was a kd

Why no kd?

Never mind a slip.

I gave 2nd to Lucas...his sharp power is showing a lil bit. Love Bernstein...Caiz you just need to chill ;D

Good scrap, I'm beginning to doubt if Soto will be able to take Lucas' power for 10 rounds.

Those right hands from Lucas are coming a bit wild. Scary stuff

Brutal 3rd round!

Great fight so far!

So much for formalities...these two are hook happy and swapping in the 3rd. Great action, Soto is getting real square on ropes. Good shoe shine by him to end round. I got 2-1

And when you get a round like this you forget about all the robberies all the shit matchmakin,the drugs and everything else you hate about this sport