Hopefully Jcc Jr and Martinez will finally meet this September.
Who do you have winning?
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Hopefully Jcc Jr and Martinez will finally meet this September.
Who do you have winning?
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Originally Posted by Ant Live
Up until Saturday it was a clear cut victory for Martinez, more than likely by KO but after that performance its a lot tougher fight to call. Martinez obviously is more accurate, quicker, has better movement, and packs a mighty good punch but Chavez Jr. showed he can take big shots and keep on moving forward. As others have said he is the best body puncher in the division and keeps getting stronger as the fight goes on.
Great match up, hopefully it happens
It probably ain't even happening cause I don't see martinez agreeing to fight in texas and I don't think jr can make 160 anywhere but texas if ya catch my drift. If it did happen and all was legal(junior submits to drug testin, doesn't bring his own uninspected gloves) id back martinez
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Originally Posted by Ant Live
Sulaiman
This fight has to be outside of Texas. Atlantic city, Vegas, even California. If that happens then I have Martinez winning by decision 8-4 or 7-5. I don't see anyway Sergio wins a decision in Texas and I'm not quite sure if he will KO Jr, he does walk through punches very well. I really do hope this fight happens, I'm looking forward to it
Sergio has finally got his chance, I hope he gets a fair crack in this fight with judges, weight, gloves and drug testing. This fight should happen in Vegas and Sergio wins.
I love Juniors dad and I have to say Junior has impressed me in his last couple of fights and certainly improved. However Martinez is a quality fighter and his victories over Barker and Macklin were not appreciated the way they should have been as people were looking at Sergio’s weaknesses as opposed to two strong hungry challengers who would give JCC Junior a lot more problems.
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Originally Posted by Ant Live
Sulaiman
Lee was stiff as a board, stood straight up and moved straight back with little if any movement at all and he was winning rounds and the fight according to the score cards.
If Chavez is forced by the new rule to weigh in the day of the fight then they better have a Mash unit ready in his corner because he's going to get starched.
If Chavez is able to dog the rule which is highly likely and weigh in before the day of the fight showing up at 185 then he's going to suffer a sustained beat down for 36 minutes. The speed and the angles coming from the opposite side will daze and confuse Chavez until the final bell.
Martinez has had a great run. But I believe his opposition was timed perfectly. Not by choose. The cards just fell his way. I believe Martinez is another Bute. Martinez is going to make me a lot of money when he sign for this fight.
Jcc Jr by KO.
How can you compare Martinez to Bute?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
That's what id like to know, dude has fought everywhere and I'm sorry nobody on butes resume was even close to pavlik or pwill which he was an underdog for both.Quote:
Originally Posted by hardcore_crashHow can you compare Martinez to Bute?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Well they are both left handed and are both boxer punchers.Quote:
Originally Posted by hardcore_crashHow can you compare Martinez to Bute?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
People that want to dawg Bute because he got blasted out can go ahead. He fought Froch like a moron. First time in such an atmosphere and probably lost the fight during the ring walk. Stood at the front door and attempted to out slug the slugger and resembled a deer in the headlights during the ordeal. He will be back in the rematch. Sometimes a loss is the best thing that can happen to a fighter.
I doubt Martinez truly cares about venu, but he would be stupid not to use it as a bargaining tool. From his attitude Martinez looking for the biggest payday he can get.
Rumor has it that Junior fired Ariza. Let's see if he gets down to 160 safely in this fight.
I don't see the Martinez-Bute comparison at all by the way, unless you mean just that they are athletic, slick boxers. Not that either should feel slighted, Bute was a long-reigning champion at super middleweight and racked up wins over Bika, Andrade, and Johnson. Martinez has had a good run too.
Frankly, if Martinez beats Junior it just raises his profile among casual fans. Hard-core fans won't give him any more credit because people still have doubts about Junior. The upside for Junior is huge, if he beats Martinez, he becomes the MAN at 160.
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Originally Posted by Ant Live
Sulaiman
Lee was stiff as a board, stood straight up and moved straight back with little if any movement at all and he was winning rounds and the fight according to the score cards.
If Chavez is forced by the new rule to weigh in the day of the fight then they better have a Mash unit ready in his corner because he's going to get starched.
If Chavez is able to dog the rule which is highly likely and weigh in before the day of the fight showing up at 185 then he's going to suffer a sustained beat down for 36 minutes. The speed and the angles coming from the opposite side will daze and confuse Chavez until the final bell.
I don't know about this one........ but I hope to hell you're right.
Martinez has already gone on the record saying he wont fight Chavez Jr in Texas, and no one can blame him for it, hell let the fight happen in Atlantic City or the Garden
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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Very interesting article, indeed. Bottom line: There should be no need to have to go through this "CSI-type" bullshit in boxing prizefights. Everybody knows the rules. The fact that there's even grounds for suspicion...... and it's not even the first time!!..... is indictment enough. Again... while Junior is not totally blameless, he's basically just fighting under whatever conditions are made available to him. In all honesty, he seems to basically be a cheater himself. But everyone else around Junior makes all Mafia families look like a bunch of amateur Boy Scouts. This is downright shameful. When you put this together with the bullshit decisions we're getting in boxing lately, it's no wonder only us diehard fans continue to follow the sport. It's depressing.
But getting back to "Junior-gate", this whole stinky mess merits a full investigation. I've always been pretty much anti-Chavez because he's always been coddled and handfed inferior opposition to fatten his bogus undefeated record. And while his last two fights (in over 40 damn fights!!!) have been against credible opposition, they're nothing to write home about. Rubio is no household name, and Lee is slow, lanky... and a sitting duck for the bloated Chavez Jr. He has a famous dad who obviously has a lot of pull in the WBC..... and his godfather is the sleazy Sulaiman, who together with Chavez Sr. will bend and break any rule to preserve Junior's bogus undefeated record.
All of which is why, if he ever faces Martinez...... I'll be rooting for Sergio to tear Junior a new asshole.