I have seen very little of Jones but he looks far too raw to have any chance
he looks like he might be able to punch but i dont see any standard in his oppostion really show that
anyone else seen anything in him i havent?
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I have seen very little of Jones but he looks far too raw to have any chance
he looks like he might be able to punch but i dont see any standard in his oppostion really show that
anyone else seen anything in him i havent?
I thought that, but I've heard a lot of good things about him coming from the states.
I've come to the conclusion he is the US version of Brook. Should be a career defining fight for them both. One will remain domestic level, the other catapulted to the world stage.
In truth it's probably going to be another easy Brook win, but as per usual I've bought into the hype and I'm excited.
That is what your girlfriend always says that you get too excited too early. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
I wish I could watch this fight, I think Brooks is a quality world class fighter, I think Jones is not at his level and should win convincingly. I will have to watch Fury instead on this fight. :(
hope/proksa rematch on the undercard as well
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Originally Posted by 0james0
Any idea why this one is rated 5 star on BoxRec :confused:
I watched a few rounds of Jones on youtube after learning Brook was odds-on for the KO. I wasn't very impressed. Be surprised if Brook can't stop him.
@Rantcatrat - I think Proksa will show that last fight all wrong (even though I thought he won). He seemed to have took Hope far too lightly. I reckon he'll get the KO this time.
The bookies certainly think last time was a blip - Proksa (1/5) Hope (4/1)
im not so sure, hope was relentless pressure and proska couldnt deal with it (although it was close)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
he suits a style where he has at least a bit of room where the other guy is gonna try and box hm
i see 2 outcomes, proska one punch KO or hope on points
I think Proksa is much better than he showed the first time. He looked knackered after a few rounds, which can only be due to a lack of preparation.
Having said that, and I do think Proksa will win this time, Hope is worth a saver at 4/1 (could have his number?).
Jones isnt that good , ive also been watching some of his fights , i dont consider Jones to be that big a puncher either.
However im not sold on the Sheffield LIMBO dancer either , he really needs to show some devil in his work , if he plods to a UD , i dont think it would be a great result for Brook.
Jones has a chance if he pressures Brook early going for the KO.
My guess is Brook - wins ud.
I'm not sure what you mean by "raw" because Jones has faced the superior opposition. However, Brook has looked like the real deal against relatively poor opposition, save Rafal. All around, this is a good fight. I expect Jones to test Brook more than you anticipate, Erics. It is closer than the odds have it, in my opinion, yet Brook should win.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Fenster, I believe you are right on the money. In a way, the Hope loss could have been exactly what Proksa needed to get him back into gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Brook will use him for target practise, the only flash thing about Jones is the way he's dressed, a very
one sided drubbing I'm afraid.;)
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Originally Posted by RantcatratI'm not sure what you mean by "raw" because Jones has faced the superior opposition. However, Brook has looked like the real deal against relatively poor opposition, save Rafal. All around, this is a good fight. I expect Jones to test Brook more than you anticipate, Erics. It is closer than the odds have it, in my opinion, yet Brook should win.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
by raw i just meant if you compare their styles, brooks timing and accuracy and technique is top of the shop, where as jones' is a bit wild when you compare
i could be wrong tho, ive only seen a few clips
We were right. Proksa much better this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratFenster, I believe you are right on the money. In a way, the Hope loss could have been exactly what Proksa needed to get him back into gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Yes, @Fenster, he was much better. Who do you favor in a match of Proksa versus Barker for EU Title? Leaning Barker...
Seriously that is very disrespectful to Barker. I don't understand why people rate Proska so highly, one fight against half decent opposition and suddenly he is the second coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
I mention the fight because Barker hinted at it during an interview I read about. I thought Proksa had the potential to be world-level because of his total destruction of Sebastian Sylvester in Sylvester's hometown. Consequently, I was very high on Proksa, prior to his loss against Hope. I rate Barker pretty highly, which is why I am leaning his way. However, Barker has been sidelined with injury and we don't know what kind of form he'll return in. They are promoted by Eddie Hearn and Matchroom so the fight could be made easily. I actually bet the fight could happen in the near future.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzSeriously that is very disrespectful to Barker. I don't understand why people rate Proska so highly, one fight against half decent opposition and suddenly he is the second coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
I think Barker-Proksa is a great match-up. Barker is a Euro champ that failed in world-class (to his credit - against a genuine elite world-class fighter). Proksa is the current Euro champ.
I hope Eddie Hearn makes it, as Rantcatrat says, it's easy to make.
Without seeing the odds I'd favour Proksa's jazzy style and power. On the other hand I can easily see Barker's neat, polished boxing making Proksa look bad (that's why it's a good fight imo).
i go it wrong on a couple of points in this thread didnt i
yes proksa barket would be a nice fight and difficult to call