Sonnen vs Silva II

Lots of hype on this. I think Chael's wrestling, chin and ability to apply constant pressure makes him a hard out for Anderson but I just have the feeling that Anderson will be at his absolute best. I'm leaning towards Anderson coming out on fire and getting a 1-2 round TKO. Chael is going to have to make this even more of a grind to get a decision. I just don't see him being able to finish Anderson. Much like last time the fight will turn on Chael's ability to score takedowns. If he can get 1-3 legit takedowns a round and score while on top he can win it but like I said I think the Spider comes out swinging for a early TKO.

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Lots of hype on this. I think Chael's wrestling, chin and ability to apply constant pressure makes him a hard out for Anderson but I just have the feeling that Anderson will be at his absolute best. I'm leaning towards Anderson coming out on fire and getting a 1-2 round TKO. Chael is going to have to make this even more of a grind to get a decision. I just don't see him being able to finish Anderson. Much like last time the fight will turn on Chael's ability to score takedowns. If he can get 1-3 legit takedowns a round and score while on top he can win it but like I said I think the Spider comes out swinging for a early TKO.

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im not sure what any of that means, sounds shit tho

Thanks for you insitefull contribution

Sonnen, Forrest, Le, Kim, Mendes, Menjivar Easy.

Rarely does an mma fight get me looking forward to it, but this is one of them. I was at a buds for a get together for the first fight and only being a casual observer had never even heard of sonnen and thought it be another walk in the park for silva...I think sonnen might just have a style that gives silva fits, either sonnen gets a decision or silva by ktfo can't really pick it. Glad this is on tho cause tonights boxing is robably a couple mismatches....

Silvaaaaaa!!!

Did Forrest win. Thats all I can be bothered to care about right now?

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Did Forrest win. Thats all I can be bothered to care about right now?

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ya but he shouldn't have. Tito deserved the win, and I dislike him much.


also,


SILVAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!


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I thought Forrest pretty clearly won the 1st and 2nd rounds

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I thought Forrest pretty clearly won the 1st and 2nd rounds

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He threw a lot more, but seemed to miss most of them and lacked any sort of bad intention. Felt it was anyone's match going into the 3rd and there for the taking, to which Tito clearly did. But who knows, MMA scoring is still a mystery to me. Was surprised Tito didn't try to take it to the ground earlier and more often.

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I thought Forrest pretty clearly won the 1st and 2nd rounds

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He threw a lot more, but seemed to miss most of them and lacked any sort of bad intention. Felt it was anyone's match going into the 3rd and there for the taking, to which Tito clearly did. But who knows, MMA scoring is still a mystery to me. Was surprised Tito didn't try to take it to the ground earlier and more often.

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I thought forrest won the first 2 clearly, tito the third and was thinking they'd give it to tito cause its his retirment fight. Didn't understand forrest just walkin out the ring I was like wtf you clearly won

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Did Forrest win. Thats all I can be bothered to care about right now?

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ya but he shouldn't have. Tito deserved the win, and I dislike him much.


also,


SILVAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

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Yes Tito won that fight. Everyone at the house I watched the fight at thought Tito had won, including my brother who was going for Forrest.

I guess it all comes down to how you score the 1st round, as it was close while the 2nd and 3rd were clear cut rounds for Forrest and Tito respectively.

Griffin always gets close decisions tho...

Anyway that was an anti climatic finish to the Silva-Sonnen fight as Sonnen pulled a Hatton a la Mayweather running his own head into the steel then just sat there and waited for Silva to finish him.

Bit of an early stoppage but Sonnen wasn't intelligently defending himself really or advancing position at all to get to his feet or take Silva down.

that thumb joint stab at sonnens temple must have really hurt.

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I thought Forrest pretty clearly won the 1st and 2nd rounds

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He threw a lot more, but seemed to miss most of them and lacked any sort of bad intention. Felt it was anyone's match going into the 3rd and there for the taking, to which Tito clearly did. But who knows, MMA scoring is still a mystery to me. Was surprised Tito didn't try to take it to the ground earlier and more often.

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Tito basically landed 2 good punches and some GnP. Griffin was the busier, more efficient and accurate fighter. The strike stats were massively in Forrest's favor. And yeah I don't know what he was doing when he ran out or when he took Rogan's mich.

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ya but he shouldn't have. Tito deserved the win, and I dislike him much.


also,


SILVAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!


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Missed it all together. Was busy watching a bloated super star go 12 rounds trying to be Ernie Shavers. Sounds similiar to first two, these dudes have to be staples of the sport. Same as boxing I wonder how hard judges, crowd lean to a guy who has announced his retire prior to the bout though.

this fight sucked. silva landed 3 clean shots and the fight gets stopped. they must have agreed on the winner and the outcome in advance.

This fight was strange. Anderson did not give a very good account of himself. To begin with wiping the vaseline of his face and onto his arms and chest. Luckly Yves Lavigne saw him and wiped it of with a towel. Then the blatant short grabbing which lasted for a good 20 seconds. This stopped Chael getting the t/d. Had he have got that who knows how the rest of the fight would have gone. Even after he he gave up the t/d Silva still had the shorts so he couldn't throw knees in the clinch. To top it off the finish...Silva threw that knee knowing full well it could have landed on Chaels face and been illegal. He didn't do himself any favours.

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This fight was strange. Anderson did not give a very good account of himself. To begin with wiping the vaseline of his face and onto his arms and chest. Luckly Yves Lavigne saw him and wiped it of with a towel. Then the blatant short grabbing which lasted for a good 20 seconds. This stopped Chael getting the t/d. Had he have got that who knows how the rest of the fight would have gone. Even after he he gave up the t/d Silva still had the shorts so he couldn't throw knees in the clinch. To top it off the finish...Silva threw that knee knowing full well it could have landed on Chaels face and been illegal. He didn't do himself any favours.

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Yes the vaseline trick and the blatant short grabbing were def on full display. That combined with the early stoppage indicated that Silva knew what he could get away with and that the deck was stacked in his favor.

The whole thing was a little fishy, but I don't know if I'd go as far as to say it was fixed. Things certainly favored Anderson Silva A LOT. Chael was gonna have to work his ass off and do everything perfect to pull off a victory.

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This fight was strange. Anderson did not give a very good account of himself. To begin with wiping the vaseline of his face and onto his arms and chest. Luckly Yves Lavigne saw him and wiped it of with a towel. Then the blatant short grabbing which lasted for a good 20 seconds. This stopped Chael getting the t/d. Had he have got that who knows how the rest of the fight would have gone. Even after he he gave up the t/d Silva still had the shorts so he couldn't throw knees in the clinch. To top it off the finish...Silva threw that knee knowing full well it could have landed on Chaels face and been illegal. He didn't do himself any favours.

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;D Did-dums !

He got beat, live with it ;) He will beat him again if they ever fight.

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This fight was strange. Anderson did not give a very good account of himself. To begin with wiping the vaseline of his face and onto his arms and chest. Luckly Yves Lavigne saw him and wiped it of with a towel. Then the blatant short grabbing which lasted for a good 20 seconds. This stopped Chael getting the t/d. Had he have got that who knows how the rest of the fight would have gone. Even after he he gave up the t/d Silva still had the shorts so he couldn't throw knees in the clinch. To top it off the finish...Silva threw that knee knowing full well it could have landed on Chaels face and been illegal. He didn't do himself any favours.

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;D Did-dums !

He got beat, live with it ;) He will beat him again if they ever fight.

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So we meet again....

If they have round 3 I have no doubt Chael would win. Chaels coach is taking up a complaint for the knee because he was told by two NSAC officials that the knee was illegal and Chael said he he had to bite his tongue in the presser because it was an illegal shot that hit his head first. Also holding onto the cage for leverage is illegal. We will see how it goes hopefully round 3.

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This fight was strange. Anderson did not give a very good account of himself. To begin with wiping the vaseline of his face and onto his arms and chest. Luckly Yves Lavigne saw him and wiped it of with a towel. Then the blatant short grabbing which lasted for a good 20 seconds. This stopped Chael getting the t/d. Had he have got that who knows how the rest of the fight would have gone. Even after he he gave up the t/d Silva still had the shorts so he couldn't throw knees in the clinch. To top it off the finish...Silva threw that knee knowing full well it could have landed on Chaels face and been illegal. He didn't do himself any favours.

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;D Did-dums !

He got beat, live with it ;) He will beat him again if they ever fight.

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So we meet again....

If they have round 3 I have no doubt Chael would win. Chaels coach is taking up a complaint for the knee because he was told by two NSAC officials that the knee was illegal and Chael said he he had to bite his tongue in the presser because it was an illegal shot that hit his head first. Also holding onto the cage for leverage is illegal. We will see how it goes hopefully round 3.

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And so we do....

Jose Aldo got away with similar things in a recent fight ie holding the fence, these things happen in fights, as for the knee, it was close to his head, but thats Chaels fault for putting his head down when Silva came in.
Silva keeps the fight standing he wins 9 times out of 10.
It will could be a long road back for Chael to get another shot, just hope Silva is still around when, and if he gets there.

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This fight was strange. Anderson did not give a very good account of himself. To begin with wiping the vaseline of his face and onto his arms and chest. Luckly Yves Lavigne saw him and wiped it of with a towel. Then the blatant short grabbing which lasted for a good 20 seconds. This stopped Chael getting the t/d. Had he have got that who knows how the rest of the fight would have gone. Even after he he gave up the t/d Silva still had the shorts so he couldn't throw knees in the clinch. To top it off the finish...Silva threw that knee knowing full well it could have landed on Chaels face and been illegal. He didn't do himself any favours.

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;D Did-dums !

He got beat, live with it ;) He will beat him again if they ever fight.

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So we meet again....

If they have round 3 I have no doubt Chael would win. Chaels coach is taking up a complaint for the knee because he was told by two NSAC officials that the knee was illegal and Chael said he he had to bite his tongue in the presser because it was an illegal shot that hit his head first. Also holding onto the cage for leverage is illegal. We will see how it goes hopefully round 3.

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And so we do....

Jose Aldo got away with similar things in a recent fight ie holding the fence, these things happen in fights, as for the knee, it was close to his head, but thats Chaels fault for putting his head down when Silva came in.
Silva keeps the fight standing he wins 9 times out of 10.
It will could be a long road back for Chael to get another shot, just hope Silva is still around when, and if he gets there.

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Silva was very lucky this fight and lots of things went his way. In a division with so many good wrestlers his luck cannot last much longer.

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This fight was strange. Anderson did not give a very good account of himself. To begin with wiping the vaseline of his face and onto his arms and chest. Luckly Yves Lavigne saw him and wiped it of with a towel. Then the blatant short grabbing which lasted for a good 20 seconds. This stopped Chael getting the t/d. Had he have got that who knows how the rest of the fight would have gone. Even after he he gave up the t/d Silva still had the shorts so he couldn't throw knees in the clinch. To top it off the finish...Silva threw that knee knowing full well it could have landed on Chaels face and been illegal. He didn't do himself any favours.

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;D Did-dums !

He got beat, live with it ;) He will beat him again if they ever fight.

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So we meet again....

If they have round 3 I have no doubt Chael would win. Chaels coach is taking up a complaint for the knee because he was told by two NSAC officials that the knee was illegal and Chael said he he had to bite his tongue in the presser because it was an illegal shot that hit his head first. Also holding onto the cage for leverage is illegal. We will see how it goes hopefully round 3.

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And so we do....

Jose Aldo got away with similar things in a recent fight ie holding the fence, these things happen in fights, as for the knee, it was close to his head, but thats Chaels fault for putting his head down when Silva came in.
Silva keeps the fight standing he wins 9 times out of 10.
It will could be a long road back for Chael to get another shot, just hope Silva is still around when, and if he gets there.

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Silva was very lucky this fight and lots of things went his way. In a division with so many good wrestlers his luck cannot last much longer.

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The is wrestlers, then the is Sonnen, he, in my eyes is way above any other wrestler in the division. If he carnt beat Silva using this style then for me none of the other's have a chance.

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This fight was strange. Anderson did not give a very good account of himself. To begin with wiping the vaseline of his face and onto his arms and chest. Luckly Yves Lavigne saw him and wiped it of with a towel. Then the blatant short grabbing which lasted for a good 20 seconds. This stopped Chael getting the t/d. Had he have got that who knows how the rest of the fight would have gone. Even after he he gave up the t/d Silva still had the shorts so he couldn't throw knees in the clinch. To top it off the finish...Silva threw that knee knowing full well it could have landed on Chaels face and been illegal. He didn't do himself any favours.

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;D Did-dums !

He got beat, live with it ;) He will beat him again if they ever fight.

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So we meet again....

If they have round 3 I have no doubt Chael would win. Chaels coach is taking up a complaint for the knee because he was told by two NSAC officials that the knee was illegal and Chael said he he had to bite his tongue in the presser because it was an illegal shot that hit his head first. Also holding onto the cage for leverage is illegal. We will see how it goes hopefully round 3.

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And so we do....

Jose Aldo got away with similar things in a recent fight ie holding the fence, these things happen in fights, as for the knee, it was close to his head, but thats Chaels fault for putting his head down when Silva came in.
Silva keeps the fight standing he wins 9 times out of 10.
It will could be a long road back for Chael to get another shot, just hope Silva is still around when, and if he gets there.

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Silva was very lucky this fight and lots of things went his way. In a division with so many good wrestlers his luck cannot last much longer.

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The is wrestlers, then the is Sonnen, he, in my eyes is way above any other wrestler in the division. If he carnt beat Silva using this style then for me none of the other's have a chance.

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Weidman just wrestled Munoz like a rag doll. He can throw a top level wrestler around he can throw Anderson on his back easy.

Anderson and Chael both lost in this fight. Chael lost the fight and Anderson lost some respect with the fans. Anderson is supposed to be the best MMA fighter ever, and you see him rubbing Vaseline on himself and holding Chael's trunks. Did the
cheating matter? Don't think so! I sure didn't like seeing it, though!

Seems someone fell into the Sonnen hype.

If it wasn't for him opening his mouth late in his career and his TRT, you would still see him getting subbed by guys like Renato and Paulo to name two.

Chael got a bone when Fliho was drugged out of his mind.

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Seems someone fell into the Sonnen hype.

If it wasn't for him opening his mouth late in his career and his TRT, you would still see him getting subbed by guys like Renato and Paulo to name two.

Chael got a bone when Fliho was drugged out of his mind.

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Okami, Miller, Marquartd, Stann, Filho thats not hype. Throwing Anderson around on his ass for 4 rounds isn't hype.

If you want over hyped check out Brock Lesnars mma career.