Where does he go from here if he loses tonight? and where does that put Garcia?
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Where does he go from here if he loses tonight? and where does that put Garcia?
I think it's really unlikely Khan loses, but either way the winner is in about the same standing, there's not much at 140 anymore aside from Matthyse. He would give Khan a great test imo, just think it's a longshot to come off. I'd be surprised if Khan doesnt move up for his next fight assuming things go well for him tonight, if Pacquiao doesn't rematch Bradley then Khan should try and land that of course.
well I'm bringing it up because there's already talk that if Khan wins he might be in line for a fight against Mayweather, so if Garcia pulls off the upset what happens to him and where does Khan fall, IMO there is more at 140 then just Matthyse, there's still Marquez, Rios, Peterson, and AlvarezQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Yeah for sure, I meant assuming Khan wins there isn't much at 140, but I haven't heard anything regarding whether Marquez is still likely to fight Pac again or not. If that doesn't happen I'd still love to see him against Khan, but I don't care to see Rios or Peterson get big fights immediately. If Mayweather fights Khan I'd also be really dissapointed, that's a cakewalk for Floyd imo but it would make some sense after the jail time.
He won't.
After the way Garcia struggled with an old Erik Morales I highly doubt he will be able to hang with a prime dynamic Amir Khan.
But, Lamont Peterson made a hell of a fight out of it so if Danny takes to him he could possibly do the same.
I see Khan by stoppage in the later rounds.
Whatever the outcome, I'd pay to see Kahn and Jmm just to see those styles come head to head.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleswell I'm bringing it up because there's already talk that if Khan wins he might be in line for a fight against Mayweather, so if Garcia pulls off the upset what happens to him and where does Khan fall, IMO there is more at 140 then just Matthyse, there's still Marquez, Rios, Peterson, and AlvarezQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
there goes Khan/Mayweather, Garcia pulls off the upset and big
Wow great performance by Garcia! I did not see this happening
Was in the middle of responding to another thread when the fight started. Khan for all his gifts physically is mentally inept.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Lol.....you just never kno
Not only did Khan lose to Garcia. He showed his one huge liability..... his glass jaw. He's fast... he boxes well... he has adequate punching power. But touch that button, and he goes all "Zab Judah" (vs Kostya Tszyu) on you. Don't see much in his boxing future. At the very least he needs to quit calling out people like Mayweather.
It's not just his chin though, the guy reaches and leaves himself open all day and his instincts are terrible in general. I couldn't believe he didn't at the least try and hold on once he was tagged, instead he engaged even more and tried to slip punches with no legs under him. He flat out can not fight.
If you get caught with bombs you go, its not a glass chin. Look at the shot he takes 55secs into round 4, it cracked right there and MASSIVE and he didnt go down. Have a look at it. His chin is not glass. If you get caught clean and big you can go, its the same for pretty much everyone. These are big shots.
I agree he was crawling round the ring at times it was embarrassing for him, even though he looked sharp going forward he wasn't hurting garcia and garcia was given hope by the fact khan was in punching range and taking big shots on his arms, it was just a matter of time before he got tagged and we all know he gets hurt and his legs go like in 3 of his last 4 fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by J_C
And yet I'm thinking about a comment I think Emmanuel said about the very first knockdown. Something about had it been a couple of inches forward, instead of at the ear/neck area..... the fight would've been over immediately. And I think he's right. Also, Garcia himself took some good right hands in the first round and weathered them quite well. No... I think Khan has shown, even in other fights, that he's more susceptible than most to power shots.
And that's one thing that makes his fights interesting. He has good power, so he can end a fight on his end as well, but if he gets his bell rung, it's on! He has no clue on how to hold on at that point, so he tries to fight his way out.Quote:
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Originally Posted by J_C
And yet I'm thinking about a comment I think Emmanuel said about the very first knockdown. Something about had it been a couple of inches forward, instead of at the ear/neck area..... the fight would've been over immediately. And I think he's right. Also, Garcia himself took some good right hands in the first round and weathered them quite well. No... I think Khan has shown, even in other fights, that he's more susceptible than most to power shots.
where does khan go now, a fight with kell brook would be good but brook showed that he's flawed last week too and although he won he nearly got knocked out, and would brook want to fight khan knowing if he loses he probably won't get a big money fight in the states, freddie roach might let khan go now because he's not the fighter he hoped he would be and just concentrate on manny getting his titles back that he was robbed of.
Dont get me wrong im not saying he has a good chin. But its not glass. You dont go 12 with Maidana if your chin is made of glass. Or take the shots he did in this Garcia fight without being knocked spark out cold. I dont know he took that shot 55secs into round 4, thats not a china chin. It would just be nice if credit could go to Garcia, most fighters would have been stopped tonight if they took these shots
garcia is good but not quick and if he faces someone with a good defence he could struggle and he has shown that in the past but he does win and he can punch.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_C
they were talking about khan moving up in weight but surely if he's getting put on his ass at this weight then moving up with the extra power these guys hit with might be a mistake.
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Originally Posted by J_C
Garcia's the real deal, no doubt about that. Deserves a lot of credit. He looked so-o-o slow against Khan, though. And he did get tagged early by right hands. So his chin seems ok. Khan has good speed and skills. But any fighter he faces with decent power is going to have a better than average chance of catching Khan with something, and... given Khan's inability to survive when in trouble, that "something" could very well end the fight.
I swear whenever I decide to pick the favorite in a fight they LOSE !Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Lol.....you just never kno
I'm 0-2 today after picking Chisora and Khan...
In Khan's defense he did show tremendous heart to come back fighting from the wallop of a hook he took. Just never fully recovered.
Good for Garcia.
Kept his poise and sustained quite an early onslaught from the lighting quick Khan.
Khan can still have a future he just needs to drastically alter his style lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkI swear whenever I decide to pick the favorite in a fight they LOSE !Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Lol.....you just never kno
I'm 0-2 today after picking Chisora and Khan...
In Khan's defense he did show tremendous heart to come back fighting from the wallop of a hook he took. Just never fully recovered.
Good for Garcia.
Kept his poise and sustained quite an early onslaught from the lighting quick Khan.
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Originally Posted by arminKhan can still have a future he just needs to drastically alter his style lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkI swear whenever I decide to pick the favorite in a fight they LOSE !Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Lol.....you just never kno
I'm 0-2 today after picking Chisora and Khan...
In Khan's defense he did show tremendous heart to come back fighting from the wallop of a hook he took. Just never fully recovered.
Good for Garcia.
Kept his poise and sustained quite an early onslaught from the lighting quick Khan.
I agree to an extent, but I think more times that not, fighters with a punch will get to him at some stage. Coming forward I think he is awesome!! His speed is incredible. If he had a great chin, I think he would've become one of the greatest British fighters of all time!! He has never been outboxed to a 12 round defeat! (Peterson did not beat him!) - only ever beaten by his punch resistance.
And that's the thing he got enough speed that he shouldn't be getting tagged by these dudes prescot, maidana, garcia all so much slower than him...he's so much quicker than them that its like wtf how they even tagging you. Khan should take a page out of wladys book become cautious, develop a superb jab, learn how to control distance really well, become boring in many peoples eyes but fuck it what he's doing now is obviously not working. I hope he can actually emulate wlad's career trajectoryQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HQuote:
Originally Posted by arminKhan can still have a future he just needs to drastically alter his style lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HulkI swear whenever I decide to pick the favorite in a fight they LOSE !Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
Lol.....you just never kno
I'm 0-2 today after picking Chisora and Khan...
In Khan's defense he did show tremendous heart to come back fighting from the wallop of a hook he took. Just never fully recovered.
Good for Garcia.
Kept his poise and sustained quite an early onslaught from the lighting quick Khan.
I agree to an extent, but I think more times that not, fighters with a punch will get to him at some stage. Coming forward I think he is awesome!! His speed is incredible. If he had a great chin, I think he would've become one of the greatest British fighters of all time!! He has never been outboxed to a 12 round defeat! (Peterson did not beat him!) - only ever beaten by his punch resistance.
I think Khan has two fight options now:
Mckloskey or Prescott.
He needs to realise a style that suits his skills. He needs to stop trying to be Manny and needs to try emulate a style that would suit him, probably a style like Floyd.
I guess this proves washed up Morales >> Prime Khan