Both would be looking to rebound from big upset loses. It's a rematch of the amateurs. Good fight IMO what do you guys think? And who would you pick to win.
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Both would be looking to rebound from big upset loses. It's a rematch of the amateurs. Good fight IMO what do you guys think? And who would you pick to win.
IMO as retarded as it sounds, Ortiz' power is the difference, he'll hurt Khan and stop him at the higher weight, plus Khan doesn't have the mindset to even make Ortiz quit, not saying muchQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
after just seeing this Ortiz needs to land one decent shot..Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO as retarded as it sounds, Ortiz' power is the difference, he'll hurt Khan and stop him at the higher weight, plus Khan doesn't have the mindset to even make Ortiz quit, not saying muchQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
good match. But you'll need two refs to mutually wave it off in corner and count kd's ;D
Ortiz by tko
Ortiz is a massive welterweight. He'd destroy Khan. Both of these guys have a weakness, chin and mental strength, but they're both almost always in really entertaining fights.
I'd disagree with the "t" bit of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
I've only just seen the last round and a half of highlights, which just makes anyone Khan has ever beaten look like garbage. Hard to believe he is still so vulnerable having reached this level. Ortiz by easy KO, he'd only need to touch him. If Victor did manage to get back to 140 again, I'd actually expect him to beat Garcia as well, there is a unified champ ripe for the picking now. I'm hoping JM Marquez can get that fight in Mexico if not Pacquiao, that'd be nice for him.
No way will Golden Boy put him in there with Ortiz. They don't want him losing 3 fights in a row. They are going to stick him in there with feather fisters again, just like after he got knocked out by Prescott.
I'd still like to see him in with JMM. I think that would be a very entertaining fight, at least until Marquez rung the school bell ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
A while ago I thought it might be a tough style for Marquez as well, but I now can't see it at all. JMM could jsut throw caution to the wind and wade inside winging hooks on him, that's practically all Garcia had to do tonight. There's something about Khan that's just very lacking and it's not his chin, the way he throws combinations it's as if he is merely hoping one or two will land, he reaches so far and doesnt have his legs set or something. No way Marquez wouldn't find him soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by bcollinsI'd still like to see him in with JMM. I think that would be a very entertaining fight, at least until Marquez rung the school bell ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
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Originally Posted by p4pkingA while ago I thought it might be a tough style for Marquez as well, but I now can't see it at all. JMM could jsut throw caution to the wind and wade inside winging hooks on him, that's practically all Garcia had to do tonight. There's something about Khan that's just very lacking and it's not his chin, the way he throws combinations it's as if he is merely hoping one or two will land, he reaches so far and doesnt have his legs set or something. No way Marquez wouldn't find him soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by bcollinsI'd still like to see him in with JMM. I think that would be a very entertaining fight, at least until Marquez rung the school bell ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
I wouldn't mind seeing him in there with Marquez, but again, they don't want him losing 3 fights in a row. ;D
Besides, not sure how willing Golden Boy will be in making a fight with Marquez. They weren't too happy with him when he left them in order to work with Top Rank to get that 3rd fight with Pac.
I actually could see them throwing him in there with Humberto Soto, who just doesn't have any power at 140, and also just had a knockout loss.
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Originally Posted by Diane
Does that mean that Lucas Matthysse is out of the question?
;D
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Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
Does that mean that Lucas Matthysse is out of the question?
;D
Absolutely! :yes:
I wouldn't be surprised at that matchup.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingA while ago I thought it might be a tough style for Marquez as well, but I now can't see it at all. JMM could jsut throw caution to the wind and wade inside winging hooks on him, that's practically all Garcia had to do tonight. There's something about Khan that's just very lacking and it's not his chin, the way he throws combinations it's as if he is merely hoping one or two will land, he reaches so far and doesnt have his legs set or something. No way Marquez wouldn't find him soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by bcollinsI'd still like to see him in with JMM. I think that would be a very entertaining fight, at least until Marquez rung the school bell ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
I wouldn't mind seeing him in there with Marquez, but again, they don't want him losing 3 fights in a row. ;D
Besides, not sure how willing Golden Boy will be in making a fight with Marquez. They weren't too happy with him when he left them in order to work with Top Rank to get that 3rd fight with Pac.
I actually could see them throwing him in there with Humberto Soto, who just doesn't have any power at 140, and also just had a knockout loss.
Ortiz would kill him..Ortiz can actually take a shot, he just can't do it for a sustained period of time without cracking mentally. Khan just simply can't take a shot and Ortiz would land often and hard on him.
It's funny how Ortiz is quite the favorite to win the fight lol. Had I ask the question before the fight I reckon Khan would be favorite. Khan did beat Maidana who most people think is the hardest hitter in the division. But Maidana is pretty limited I guess. Reason this fight intrigues me is because Khan and Ortiz have a very similar career, they are both great under achievers as far as their pro career goes. Both had big upset loses before getting redemption and winning their belts then had great upset loses again. I think it be a lot closer than most think but I see Ortiz winning this. Both fighters are on losing streaks.. But I agree they will match up Khan with feather fisted opponents till he gets a few wins under his belt and then they will sell us another big fight.
Excellent match-up. It wont happen until they both rebuild though.
I highly doubt Ortiz is mentally strong enough to beat someone that's already beat him though.
Khan KO 6. Fact.
I don't like Ortiz. But I imagine there'd be hordes willing to bet money on Ortiz by KO.
I'd be one of them.
I hope you're right because that means I'd get a better price on Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I'll take a gamble that history repeats itself. Khan stops Ortiz for the second time.
Ortiz dodgy heart against Khan's dodgy chin. Great fight.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterI hope you're right because that means I'd get a better price on Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I'll take a gamble that history repeats itself. Khan stops Ortiz for the second time.
Ortiz dodgy heart against Khan's dodgy chin. Great fight.
I'd back Khan by mid round stoppage.
But it would be one of my more worrying bets :cool: