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What idiot. Is he not a pro? Instead of holding when he is hurt, he decideds to become a slick boxer and try to avoid shots. Wtf, I was surprised Garcia didn't end it then.
Kahn looked fast and sharp, but he was a fool just throwing bombs trying to ko garcia. Got his ass punished for that dumb ass gameplan. If he would've calmed da fuck down he would've won more than likely.
Now I'd love to see a rematch and see if khan does the Judah again.
If no rematch, who does Garcia fight next?
Matthyse is the guy who deserves the fight but he won't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
I'm sure you would've done much better with somebody walking you down after they'd just knocked you down in that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
I look forward to seeing you on Primetime TV showing us how it should be done.
Clown!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HI'm sure you would've done much better with somebody walking you down after they'd just knocked you down in that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
I look forward to seeing you on Primetime TV showing us how it should be done.
Clown!!
no but you also know that some fighters have the instinct to hold on and spoil if they've been rocked and not throw back i.e. Chisora or get on their bike when there legs have gone!
How did that work out for Chisora?Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HI'm sure you would've done much better with somebody walking you down after they'd just knocked you down in that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
I look forward to seeing you on Primetime TV showing us how it should be done.
Clown!!
no but you also know that some fighters have the instinct to hold on and spoil if they've been rocked and not throw back i.e. Chisora or get on their bike when there legs have gone!
If Khan had've ran and held on it would not have made a difference, his best chnace was to turn defence into attack and tried to stun Garcia and stop his onslaught!
'how did that work out for Khan?' ;D
except Khan had landed clean on Garcia and not made a dent.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HHow did that work out for Chisora?Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad MissyQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HI'm sure you would've done much better with somebody walking you down after they'd just knocked you down in that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
I look forward to seeing you on Primetime TV showing us how it should be done.
Clown!!
no but you also know that some fighters have the instinct to hold on and spoil if they've been rocked and not throw back i.e. Chisora or get on their bike when there legs have gone!
If Khan had've ran and held on it would not have made a difference, his best chnace was to turn defence into attack and tried to stun Garcia and stop his onslaught!
It's not like it's the first time Khan has reacted this way.
Chisora at least can punch
When the bell saved Khan in round 3 he began doing the Judahg dance after the bell. Any other fighter and the ref would have stopped it. Garcia almost did it in the round he predicted which is pretty impressive.
Khan promised a KO and he was talking about Floyd etc. 2nd time in a row he has looked past an opponent. Not many greats lose twice in a row during their prime. Great fight to watch. That 4th round was qulaity viewing !!!!
I think it's heroic when a man is out on his feet and his natural instinct is to fight.
What a fucking heart Khan's got. Should be proud of that.
Wow, didn't know Khan got knocked out!
Heroic maybe, but stupid! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Boxing is all about harnassing and controlling your instincts.
Khan had done a combination of holding, running, and fighting..... and seemed to have regained his senses somewhat when he got tagged again. It has nothing to do with his not knowing what to do when hurt. It's that chin of his that keeps getting in the way.
Many fighters instinct would have not let them get up let alone try and fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBHeroic maybe, but stupid! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Boxing is all about harnassing and controlling your instincts.
A stupid hero. I'd be proud of that.
funny thing is Khan is now officially his generation's Zab Judah, had all the talent in the world yet still managed to only have a somewhat decent career, come 20 years from now wont really be remembered as an elite or top fighter :-\
Couldn't agree more. Khan is a warrior and went out as such. Thought Bayless stopped it a bit early due to Khan fighting back and seeming to get his bearings back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Khan messed it for himself though, watch the stoppage, Bayless asked him a couple times are you ok, do you want to continue. Although Khan looked the most steady he had for about 5 minutes, he didn't answer, so Bayless saw it as he didn't really want to go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkCouldn't agree more. Khan is a warrior and went out as such. Thought Bayless stopped it a bit early due to Khan fighting back and seeming to get his bearings back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Khan would have only taken more big shots and not managed to walk out of the stadium.
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Originally Posted by BIG HI'm sure you would've done much better with somebody walking you down after they'd just knocked you down in that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
I look forward to seeing you on Primetime TV showing us how it should be done.
Clown!!
Wow, calm down dick rider. It was a simple observation. Did know I mentioned being a pro boxer myself. So why da fuck do you wanna see me in primtetime? I didnt mean to hurt your feelings. Cant we just have a gentleman's discussion?
I agree he has heart, but he was landing bombs from the start. Danny kept coming in, so now that your hurt you should throw more bombs?
Also did anyone notice the dirty tatics from khan in the 2nd round I think. He was trying to sneak elbows in during the clinch.
It was a great fight but i do think the stoppage was correct. That last kd when he got hit on the top of the dome look like he was only grazed. It wouldve only gotten worse for khan IMO.
Calling a fighter who is there giving his all 'An Idiot' when you are sitting on your ass being a keyboard warrior telling him what he should've done, pisses me off!!Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HI'm sure you would've done much better with somebody walking you down after they'd just knocked you down in that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris6878
I look forward to seeing you on Primetime TV showing us how it should be done.
Clown!!
Wow, calm down dick rider. It was a simple observation. Did know I mentioned being a pro boxer myself. So why da fuck do you wanna see me in primtetime? I didnt mean to hurt your feelings. Cant we just have a gentleman's discussion?
I agree he has heart, but he was landing bombs from the start. Danny kept coming in, so now that your hurt you should throw more bombs?
Also did anyone notice the dirty tatics from khan in the 2nd round I think. He was trying to sneak elbows in during the clinch.
It was a great fight but i do think the stoppage was correct. That last kd when he got hit on the top of the dome look like he was only grazed. It wouldve only gotten worse for khan IMO.
Now crawl back into your hole you odious little toad!!!
Khan does need to hold, he is exciting and shows heart but he needs to use his brain more.
he's not learnt that yet and won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Which is good for you as you enjoy watching him get knocked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyhe's not learnt that yet and won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He has heart. I'll give him that. Sucks for him there's a window where his chin should beQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I agree, Hang on for dear life. This loss just utterly fucked his career up. Lost a possible fight with mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I would think that holding and surviving until you regain your bearings would be the best course of action. Khan was handing garcia his ass the first two rounds. All he had to do was survive and then Fight smart and dont go for the ko like he was doing the first two rounds.
Try to win on points cause your tender chin cant take any more punishment.
But I guess he is a all or nothing fighter. THey dont last long. with soft chins.
Exactly ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterWhich is good for you as you enjoy watching him get knocked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyhe's not learnt that yet and won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Either hug or take a knee until you get your legs back. God damn it no one teaches these guys how to act when hurt. That is a very fundamental skill to have in boxing. As much as I was gleeful watching Khan go at it like a warrior I also was nodding my head in dismay knowing its just a matter of time.
Khan did actually say "I'm ok" (although it was delayed) and I initially thought it was perhaps a little early but watch it for a second time...After Khan says "I'm ok", Kenny takes a long hard look into his eyes and you just know that Kenny saw something wasn't right. Then he waved it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0Khan messed it for himself though, watch the stoppage, Bayless asked him a couple times are you ok, do you want to continue. Although Khan looked the most steady he had for about 5 minutes, he didn't answer, so Bayless saw it as he didn't really want to go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkCouldn't agree more. Khan is a warrior and went out as such. Thought Bayless stopped it a bit early due to Khan fighting back and seeming to get his bearings back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Khan would have only taken more big shots and not managed to walk out of the stadium.
Great stoppage in my opinion because the ref gave Khan that opportunity up til the 8 count, then saw something that refs are obviously trained to see in a fighters eyes that means they're not ok. Can't fault him at all.
Khan was on his way out regardless.
I think Khan can win the re-match, I know I will get stick for it, but think he can do a Lennox on Rahman and win.
They had a "ref-cam" on Bayless on HBO and showed Khan from Bayless's perspective as he called off the fight. Despite saying he was OK, Khan's eyes looked totally glassy and dilated. (And he obviously didn't have his legs and wasn't getting them back.)Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzKhan did actually say "I'm ok" (although it was delayed) and I initially thought it was perhaps a little early but watch it for a second time...After Khan says "I'm ok", Kenny takes a long hard look into his eyes and you just know that Kenny saw something wasn't right. Then he waved it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0Khan messed it for himself though, watch the stoppage, Bayless asked him a couple times are you ok, do you want to continue. Although Khan looked the most steady he had for about 5 minutes, he didn't answer, so Bayless saw it as he didn't really want to go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkCouldn't agree more. Khan is a warrior and went out as such. Thought Bayless stopped it a bit early due to Khan fighting back and seeming to get his bearings back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Khan would have only taken more big shots and not managed to walk out of the stadium.
Great stoppage in my opinion because the ref gave Khan that opportunity up til the 8 count, then saw something that refs are obviously trained to see in a fighters eyes that means they're not ok. Can't fault him at all.
Khan was on his way out regardless.
I agree. Khan came out fighting like he had bricks for hands. He was much to fast for Garcia. If Kahn fights smart and not like a mad idiot, he would win easily. He may need to train with the master of soft chin fighters.....Steward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master