The most exciting fight I ever saw!
Part of the reason could be that I was 15 at the time but the Yvonne Durrell vs Archie Moore fight is the one for me. Moore was down three times in the first and again in the fourth before he got to Durrell in the eleventh. I had a couple of friends over for the Friday Nights Fights and my mother had to threaten to turn off the TV, if we didn't calm down. When the fight was over my dad told us to get out of the house because we were still yelling about the way it ended. Anyway, I was this white teenager from the San Fernando Valley and Archie Moore was my hero for a couple years. Moore was what was known as a natty dresser. He was photographed all the time in a tux with tails, top hat and patent leather shoes. He was old school all the way, close to 200 fights (probably more), with 141 KOs and was Light Heavy Champ for ten years! Moore won the title at age 36.
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Im a great fan of Hagler v Mugabi , Hagler v Hearns .
But this was a small hall version, check it out.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eikV3jGJa54
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Hearns V Duran comes to mind, i doubt if anyone would've beaten Hearns that night.
Hagler V Hearns : 3 rounds of total mayhem!
For expectation and excitement i have to mention the Rumble In The Jungle, there were people who were genuinely concerned that Ali might be killed in the ring in Zaire. It was simply mind blowing watching Ali systematically dismantle the monster that was George Foreman in 1974.
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I would have to say, Benn v McClellan it had it all brutality action , and of course tragedy both fighters
paid the price. This is the best fight I have ever seen, or ever likely to see if there is such a thing as
a near death experience, it must have been for both fighters.
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Ones i actually saw
Benn v McClellan
Hamed v Kelley
Junior Jones v Kennedy Mckinney (same bill as above if i remember right)
Carl Thompson v Ezra Sellers
and call me cruel but Amir Khan v Breidis Prescott is one of the best value for money ppv's ever in my opinion :)
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Benn v Gerald had me jumping off my seat.
Morales v Barrera had my jaw dropping in disbelief.
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Corrales-Castillo-I was awesome, especially Round 10.
Leonard-Duran-I was a classic.
Hagler-Hearns was condensed mayhem for 3 rounds.
There's so much to pick from....
But my personal favorite (and most exciting from a personal perspective), was Trinidad-Vargas.
All these fights, except Hagler-Hearns, had "ebb and flow". They were back and forth, with numerous changes in momentum. That's something I like to see in exciting, classic fights.
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Part of the reason could be that I was 15 at the time but the Yvonne Durrell vs Archie Moore fight is the one for me. Moore was down three times in the first and again in the fourth before he got to Durrell in the eleventh. I had a couple of friends over for the Friday Nights Fights and my mother had to threaten to turn off the TV, if we didn't calm down. When the fight was over my dad told us to get out of the house because we were still yelling about the way it ended. Anyway, I was this white teenager from the San Fernando Valley and Archie Moore was my hero for a couple years. Moore was what was known as a natty dresser. He was photographed all the time in a tux with tails, top hat and patent leather shoes. He was old school all the way, close to 200 fights (probably more), with 141 KOs and was Light Heavy Champ for ten years! Moore won the title at age 36.
Interesting pick and I commend you for it. I was six months old when it happened but saw it years later in the mid/late sixties and have watched it many times since. Durell got shafted in that 1st fight by a long count and I have nothing but admiration and respect for Archie Moore.
I just had to comment as I do not see this fight come up all that much.
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Arguello vs Pyror 1 AND 2. Enough said :D
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One of the hardest fights I have ever seen was James Pipps vs Carmelo Negron. This was the main event for, I think, Holyfield's 7th pro fight, and I remember reading about it in the back of RING magazine. The result was a draw, but both guys got 60 day medical suspensions. Many years later I purchased a tape of the fight and it was a war. I haven't been able to find it on-line, but I'm probably not that good at looking, but it was a great fight.
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One of the hardest fights I have ever seen was James Pipps vs Carmelo Negron. This was the main event for, I think, Holyfield's 7th pro fight, and I remember reading about it in the back of RING magazine. The result was a draw, but both guys got 60 day medical suspensions. Many years later I purchased a tape of the fight and it was a war. I haven't been able to find it on-line, but I'm probably not that good at looking, but it was a great fight.
Reminds me of Sosa v Prince Williams where the ref stopped the fight for the sheer brutality on both fighters.
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straying from the obvious picks (such as Gatti/Ward I, Castillo/Corrales I, and Barrera/Morales I) I think the fight that most had me excited and all pumped up was Morales/Pacquiao I, just due to the fact that Morales was being written off and for him to come and win the way he did, and the way he just gave up the 12th for the fans with full confidence that he had the fight won, it was one of my favorite nights
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Part of the reason could be that I was 15 at the time but the Yvonne Durrell vs Archie Moore fight is the one for me. Moore was down three times in the first and again in the fourth before he got to Durrell in the eleventh. I had a couple of friends over for the Friday Nights Fights and my mother had to threaten to turn off the TV, if we didn't calm down. When the fight was over my dad told us to get out of the house because we were still yelling about the way it ended. Anyway, I was this white teenager from the San Fernando Valley and Archie Moore was my hero for a couple years. Moore was what was known as a natty dresser. He was photographed all the time in a tux with tails, top hat and patent leather shoes. He was old school all the way, close to 200 fights (probably more), with 141 KOs and was Light Heavy Champ for ten years! Moore won the title at age 36.
Interesting pick and I commend you for it. I was six months old when it happened but saw it years later in the mid/late sixties and have watched it many times since. Durell got shafted in that 1st fight by a long count and I have nothing but admiration and respect for Archie Moore.
I just had to comment as I do not see this fight come up all that much.
I saw the clips of the fight and it was amazing that Archie came back from the knockdowns and showed what a heart he had.
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Watching the Moore/Durelle fight, I remember thinking how clever Moore was, in the way he did things. He was old, didn't have much in his legs, and then he got nailed. So, for most of the fight, when he'd throw a right hand, he'd set himself up so he could pivot on it, to his right, to get his weight into the punch.
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Miguel Cotto vs Joshua Clottey
I know this fight didn't have as much carnage and action as some other great fights but it did have superb, technical boxing and game performances all the way through. Both fighters persevered through debilitating injuries sustained during the fight. Miguel fought with everything he had (which the judges may have taken note of for the decision) and pushed beyond his limits to prove himself after a disheartening TKO defeat against Antonio Margarito, turning me into a permanent fan. As for Joshua Clottey, his defense was unbelievable. It was the first time I had ever seen someone utilize his guard so well; it was like he had a giant shield. I still think that if he hadn't injured his knee early in the fight, he would have stayed off the ropes and continued to increase his pressure and break down Cotto, walking away with a stoppage victory or a majority decision.
Everything from styles, pacing, reach, height, power, and persona where perfectly entwined to make for a truly competitive fight. This fight really hooked me from round one through twelve and I still watch and learn from it.
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Part of the reason could be that I was 15 at the time but the Yvonne Durrell vs Archie Moore fight is the one for me. Moore was down three times in the first and again in the fourth before he got to Durrell in the eleventh. I had a couple of friends over for the Friday Nights Fights and my mother had to threaten to turn off the TV, if we didn't calm down. When the fight was over my dad told us to get out of the house because we were still yelling about the way it ended. Anyway, I was this white teenager from the San Fernando Valley and Archie Moore was my hero for a couple years. Moore was what was known as a natty dresser. He was photographed all the time in a tux with tails, top hat and patent leather shoes. He was old school all the way, close to 200 fights (probably more), with 141 KOs and was Light Heavy Champ for ten years! Moore won the title at age 36.
Interesting pick and I commend you for it. I was six months old when it happened but saw it years later in the mid/late sixties and have watched it many times since. Durell got shafted in that 1st fight by a long count and I have nothing but admiration and respect for Archie Moore.
I just had to comment as I do not see this fight come up all that much.
I saw the clips of the fight and it was amazing that Archie came back from the knockdowns and showed what a heart he had.
He was unbelievable. Since I gather from your posts that you are a knowledgeable hard core fan and avid historian, I thought you might enjoy Springs Toledo's take on the incredible Archie Moore.
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2 Parts cause of the character max.
The Sixth God of War: Archie Moore
By Springs Toledo
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“Time is a strange brew.”
~ Archie Moore
Archie Moore may have needed smelling salts to revive him after hearing that he was finally getting a crack at the light heavyweight title after 160 professional bouts. He was lucky he didn’t break his hip when he fell. The “Old Mongoose” turned thirty-six years old four days before he stepped into the ring against champion Joey Maxim during the Yuletide season of 1952.
Moore was aging all right, but he was an aging puncher, and that meant something. His legs were stuck in cement, which only made it easier to plant his feet and launch the dynamite in his fists. Do you remember your grandfather’s vice-grip of a handshake? Men get stronger as they age.
Moore was always a powerful fighter and partially because of that, an avoided fighter. He had been ranked as a middleweight from 1940 through 1944 and ranked as a light heavyweight for the next eight years. Two of his most dangerous opponents had already retired by the time he fought Maxim: Charley Burley in 1950 and Eddie Booker in 1944. Neither of them was able to get a world title shot and all three had to take jobs outside of boxing at one time or another: Burley at an aircraft plant, Booker as a red cap porter, and Moore as a night watchman. “I am often asked why, when both Burley and Booker beat me, neither one got to the top whereas I did,” the introspective Moore said, “Well, I guess it’s the way I sized things up. I felt I had two opponents –other boxers and Father Time.” Discouragement, he said, “can KO a boxer even before he has a chance to step into the ring.”
Moore may have had a main event against Father Time, but he never forgot those preliminary brawls early in his career. After a three month, seven fight jaunt in Australia in 1940 he dropped anchor in California at the age of twenty-three and joined the round-robin ranks of other great black boxers then campaigning on the west coast. Moore and the set remembered as ‘Murderers’ Row’ fought among themselves like lions for peanuts not far enough from the San Diego Zoo. All told, Archie Moore, Charley Burley, Eddie Booker, Jack Chase, Lloyd Marshall, Tiger Wade, Bert Lytell, as well as Holman Williams and Cocoa Kid fought each other 79 times. Archie’s record against them was 10-5-3 with 4 knockouts, which was about as good as it got.
Those internecine wars furnished each of them with a wealth of experience but their purses weren’t even enough to furnish a house …and they opened no doors.
A frustrated Charley Burley hung up the gloves and took a job as a garbage man for the city of Pittsburgh. Eddie Booker retired after an eye injury got progressively worse. Bert Lytell had his last fight when he was just twenty-seven years old. In 1951 he was at Grossinger’s gym in New York sparring with world middleweight champion Randy Turpin before Turpin’s rematch with Sugar Ray Robinson. Jack Chase, Lloyd Marshall, Holman Williams, Tiger Wade, and Cocoa Kid retired in their mid-30s due to fading skills, a devastating loss, or both.
Bitterness was a contagion for ignored fighters like the Mongoose and Murderers’ Row. Perhaps Moore’s greatest triumph was an emotional one. He had developed ulcers that ruptured the day after a brutal bout with Booker and landed him in the hospital for thirty-eight days. He was close to death. After self-diagnosing the spiritual causes of his ailment, he picked up a mirror and saw a face etched with tension. It was the face of millions of African American men seething under the surface, held down by invisible chains. Moore found that he was holding on to negative feelings in his heart and it had done a number not only on his health, but on his character. He wrote his own prescription for healing remedies that predated the New Age movement by three decades –he listened to jazz, learned to take therapeutic naps, mastered his pseudo-scientific theories of “breathology,” “escapism,” and “relaxism” and overcame what ailed him.
It was an achievement that stands as a monument to inspire us all. Moore went deep into an internal cave and battled the dragons lurking in his own humanity. What emerged was a philosopher-king who took hold of a grand mission and slung it on his back. He would not only honor an old promise made to his aunt to refrain from drinking, smoking, or “doing anything shameful in the ring,” he also made a new one to himself. Before George Foreman was even born, Archie Moore would ignore time and its creaking warnings and force his way through the gates of a kingdom that was rightfully his.
“I know I can beat Maxim,” he told reporters, “I always did believe I could beat him.”
A.J. Liebling agreed. Moore reminded him of “a supreme exponent of bel canto who sees himself crowded out of the opera house by a guy who can only shout.” The perennial top contender took matters into his own hands and began writing letters to sports editors all over the country. “I pleaded, I cursed,” he remembered, “I demanded a shot at Maxim's crown.” Joey Maxim’s manager was the go-to man and it just so happened that Maxim’s manager was Doc Kearns, the same Doc Kearns who once managed Jack Dempsey and Mickey “Toy Bulldog” Walker. By this time Kearns had snow on the roof, but his greediness was evergreen; he finally yielded and allowed a title shot but only after he received a guaranteed purse of $100,000 for Maxim. Moore signed, even though his end turned out to be a measly $800.
Most fight fans knew what was what and who was who and the odds reflected that –twelve to five against the champion. Losing was unthinkable for Moore, who remembered well the trials of Charley Burley. “I’ve been waiting a long time,” he said with quiet intensity, “I’ve got to win.”
He had another reason to win, another motivation that fluttered deep inside of him. He took the time to make arrangements for his divorced parents to sit ringside at the arena in St. Louis. A man who banishes bitterness from his heart does funny things, and this man forgave them for sending him away to his aunt and uncle when he was barely a year old. “I just wanted my father and my mother to see me win the title, together,” he told Sports Illustrated in 1989. “I wanted to look down on them, next to each other, at that moment. And I did.”
Moore then turned his attention to the king on his throne, on his throne.
The bell rang. In a few minutes it became clear that it was ringing for one and tolling for the other. A right hand dented Maxim’s square jaw in the first round and he forced a clinch. Maxim, born Giuseppe Antonio Berardinelli, had a repeating left jab that recalled a Maxim machine gun; thus the name. As the all-time knockout leader (Moore had at least 131 career KOs) applied his hardware and demonstrated superior technical know-how, Maxim’s own considerable skills were neutralized and his jab shot blanks. After the seventh the champion was hurt in every round. “Time and again,” said the Associated Press, “Moore unleashed the full fury of almost a decade of frustration as the ‘uncrowned champion.’”
Kearns may have finagled a $100,000 retirement fund for the inevitable dethronement of his boy, but some of those funds had to be earmarked for medical bills. Joey Maxim was gashed and swollen when his crown fell off. Moore caught that crown with nimble hands. His manager attempted to lift him in the air to celebrate but Moore would have none of it. “Just slip my robe on my shoulders,” he ordered, “There's nothing to get excited about. I could've won this thing 12 years ago if I'd had the chance.”
Only minutes after his victory, the new old champion announced his intentions. “I’m going to put some life in the division. Any contender who deserves a chance will get it.” And the Old Mongoose was every bit as good as his word. His predecessors’ sins of avoidance were spotlighted by Moore who faced all-comers including Maxim, twice.
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With this remarkable victory, Moore was escorted out of what he called “the murky twilight” and into the radiance of fame and celebrity. It was long overdue. The charismatic light heavyweight king was interviewed often and would not allow the public to forget the names of those fierce, forgotten men he faced in his youth. He would tip his crown to them and his humanity shined when he did.
It is poignant when you think about it. But for his longevity and acute single-mindedness, the name ‘Archie Moore’ would surely have been added by history to the ranks of Murderers’ Row –as another great coulda’ been. Instead, he became the unlikeliest of destiny’s children, an old man spanking top contenders for the sheer fun of it.
Late wars followed his ascension to the purple, including the street fight against Yvon Durelle and memorable campaigns in the heavyweight division against Rocky Marciano and Muhammad Ali. The names on Moore’s resume read like graffiti at the Roman Pantheon. One of those names was Jimmy Bivins whom he had beaten three times. When asked who was the greatest of the eleven world champions he faced, Bivins told The Ring, “the one guy who stands out –and he stands out in everyone’s mind –is Archie Moore. I thought he was the greatest fighter in the world. He could punch and he could box. But he could really punch. He wasn’t afraid of nobody.”
Archie came out of boxing’s golden era, when men fought more often for less money and the working conditions were more hazardous than they are today, to say the least. He managed to defeat world-class middleweights, light heavyweights, and heavyweights, though he was essentially only a natural middleweight with a paunch. He overcame six Hall of Famers. The record should read seven; a prime Willie Pastrano escaped with a hotly disputed draw after Archie chased him around the ring on forty-five year old legs. That was in 1962. Archie had his first professional fight in 1935.
Many civilians cannot understand why anyone would choose Archie’s profession for a living, and even fighters themselves would be hard-pressed to explain how a man could fight 220 times over twenty-eight years. Placing one’s health and well-being at such risk so often for so long seems to be utter folly, if not madness. Moore was an exception that proved the rule. He was the antique that out-performed newer models, a well-mannered eccentric who would show up at weigh-ins resplendent in a top hat and tuxedo, twirling a walking stick. At times he’d step onto the scale buck naked. And even had he been a bit mad, there was a touch of genius in it –the old man’s showmanship compounded the staggering skillfulness of his craft and boosted box-office receipts.
In the end, Archie Moore’s motivation was neither madness nor money.
It was love.
“Boxing is magnificent,” he told a journalist late in life, his eyes softening with affection. “It’s beautiful to know. Oh, the price can be very dear. You’ve got to marry it. And so I did. Boxing was my lover. It was my lady.”
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ali frazier 1
pryor arguello 1
corrales castillo
tyson holyfied 1
duran leonard 1
lewis klitschko
holyfield bowe (take your pick)
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IamInuit what an incredible read and so well written. That was beautiful description of the fight Archie Morre won in and out of the ring where other fighters lost. Doc Kearns screwed fighters and it was sad that Burley and others had to take other jobs.
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The following were exciting, Foreman-Lyle, Mayweather-Corrales, Arguello-Pryor,Hagler-Hearns, Corrales-Castillo, Duran-Leonard one Hearns-Leonard,Salvador Sanchez against Danny Red Lopez and Wilfredo Gomez. Ali Frazier 1 and Ali Frazier 3. Ali-Foreman and Foreman vs. Frazier 1. Lupe Pintor vs. Carlos Zarate. Any fight with Sadd Muhummed in it.
Trinidad-Whitaker, Whitaker vs. Julio Chavez. Roberto Duran-Esteban Dejesus and Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan. Rocky Lockridge vs. Wilfredo Gomez! Just to name a few.
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Frazier Ali - all 3
Holmes Norton -Just brutal toe to toe stuff
Prior Arguello first fight and rematch - quality stuff
Hearns Duran -short but sweet
Hagler Hearns - amazing
More recently
Hatton anyone - unrelenting
The last round of Froch Taylor:o
Kirkland Angulo - I didn't care when it started and ended up screaming at the tv;D
There are so many and they don't have to be classic fights or Boxers in whose career you have a vested interest. That's whats great about the game, even fighters who you think are boring can end up surprising you.
