If Mexicans didn't turn pro at 15 I think they'd rule Olympic Boxing.
I watched a Mexican lad called Oscar Valdez yesterday at the Olympics fighting one of, if not the favorite for the Bantamweight Gold in Tajikistans Anvar Yunusov and to be honest he was far too good for his opponent. Anyway it got me wondering what if more of the great Mexicans stayed in the ams?
I mean pretty much every great Mexican boxer down the years seems to have turned pro at 15 therefore not giving themselves chance to fight in the games. I honestly believe Mexico is the greatest boxing nation on earth but we don't often see that in the Olympics.
Does anyone else think they'd stop a lot of this eastern european dominance if they did have the finances etc to keep their top men ams in the way Britain do? I think they'd get a hell of a lot of golds especially in the lower weight classes!
Valdez is now set to fight Irelands John Joe Nevin at weekend and this is a fight I'm really looking forward to as they have been 2 of the outstanding performers for me so far.
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Gonna be a terrific fight at the weekend.
Naturally I'm gonna favor our guy, Nevin, but for me this could make the gold.
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Donny
Gonna be a terrific fight at the weekend.
Naturally I'm gonna favor our guy, Nevin, but for me this could make the gold.
Yeah matchup of the olympics so far for me. I think both guys will make good pros too.
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Yeah- I think the WSB has been a marvellous experience for Nevin- rule change next year should also help ease them into it and make the transfer to pro less daunting.
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Mex do know why amature-status is total BS. No cash and insane rules. Who really needs this? :cool:
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Mex do know why amature-status is total BS. No cash and insane rules. Who really needs this? :cool:
It is a huge learning curve that could make them even better though!
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Amateur boxing is slap fighting...I don't know of many Mexican fighters who would be great at that.
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El Kabong
Amateur boxing is slap fighting...I don't know of many Mexican fighters who would be great at that.
It's scoring punches with the knuckles though and many mexicans throw lots of punches per round. I think they'd be excellent in the lower weights.
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I've really enjoyed watching Valdez this week. I read he was the first Mexican to ever medal at a World Championship event...hard to believe I know. If he medals I could see them paying more attention to their amateur program. They could be a force in a few years.
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Not sure how well maintained-funded the program is there but has to be hard to resist the pull of the States once the amateur notice starts rolling in. They've put out some quality pros out of Olympics, then again you also had a Hbo rush job in Bajado. Hector Lopez won a silver.
Has to be a fine line when to turn pro. Doesn't the States have a team captain in his 4th Olympics?!
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They're also two different sports altogether. If you look at the list of countries with the most Olympic boxing champions, versus the countries with the most professional boxing champions..... the lists are entirely different.
Mexico is 2nd in pro champions, but not in the top 20 in Olympic champions.
Japan is 3rd in pro champions, ditto on Olympic champions (not in top 20).
Puerto Rico is 6th in pro champions, ditto on Olympic champions.
Then there's Thailand, the Philippines, etc, etc, etc.
The whole argument goes out the window.
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El Kabong
Amateur boxing is slap fighting...I don't know of many Mexican fighters who would be great at that.
Girls are great at slapping, you should give it a go Lyle, you'd be a natural
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El Kabong
Amateur boxing is slap fighting...I don't know of many Mexican fighters who would be great at that.
Girls are great at slapping, you should give it a go Lyle, you'd be a natural
Please English members of Saddos in this situation would it be more correct of me to call Greenbeanz a "Plonker" or a "Wanker"? I do need assistance in choosing between the two.
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El Kabong
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Greenbeanz
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El Kabong
Amateur boxing is slap fighting...I don't know of many Mexican fighters who would be great at that.
Girls are great at slapping, you should give it a go Lyle, you'd be a natural
Please English members of Saddos in this situation would it be more correct of me to call Greenbeanz a "Plonker" or a "Wanker"? I do need assistance in choosing between the two.
A C**T is the most appropriate
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I think Mexican fighters their traditional style is better suited for the pros. That's because we know some great mexican fighters like Chavez would rather take 2-3 punches to land one power punch. But then we have the non traditional fighters like Finito lopez and JMM they would be great like you said if they would actually turn pro after their teens. I wish they would focus more on their amateur program but I can understand most of them are in dire need of money which is another reason mexicans fight with that warrior spirit because for a lot of them it's their only means of putting food on the table.. My 2 cents :P
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Just to follow up on this thread, I thought Valdez looked the most exciting prospect I've seen from a professional perspective.
There was a Filipino, Bariega (spelling?) also looked exciting, in defeat to his Kazakh opponent.
Were I a boxing promoter the left hook vs. Nevin would have had me sold on Valdez.
Oh and also... The Irish guy won ;D:lickish:
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TitoFan
They're also two different sports altogether. If you look at the list of countries with the most Olympic boxing champions, versus the countries with the most professional boxing champions..... the lists are entirely different.
Mexico is 2nd in pro champions, but not in the top 20 in Olympic champions.
Japan is 3rd in pro champions, ditto on Olympic champions (not in top 20).
Puerto Rico is 6th in pro champions, ditto on Olympic champions.
Then there's Thailand, the Philippines, etc, etc, etc.
The whole argument goes out the window.
I think a lot of the above is down to funding. Plus you should really mention that the U.S. is top of both if you are to make that argument. Also the fact that cubans don't tend to become pro's has a major bearing on these facts.
