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Very happily surprised that they're stepping up to the top of the division now and not keeping time with a BS fight against Arce. Plus Rios vs. Alvarado is the undercard. This should be an awesome night of boxing!
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/1...e-depot-center
Much better than fighting Arce. Nishioka won't have fought for a year and is agreeing to fight in America. He must be supremely confident. I'm looking forward to this one.
This sounds like a potential FOTY to me.
Good fight and glad its getting made because nishioka is getting to be old by little guy standards if my memory serves me right so the sooner the better
Donaire I will go for in this one, at this moment in time one of my favourite fighters.:)
Niice, those are two really good fights. Would've picked Donaire without question before his last couple of fights, but I'm not sure whether he's really the same force having moved up and I think Nishioka has been at the weight forever? Alvarado probably doesn't have the tools to beat Rios I suspect, but that will be fireworks while it lasts. All 4 guys can punch though, anything could happen.
He's been noticeably much bigger then his opponents moving up starting with Sydorenko. In that particular case it looked like he was fighting a boy. He decked Montiel sure but he has lost his power now. Flash or flash in the pan?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Ths is a helluva card. Donaire had better have that twinkle out of his eyes and head out of the cloud here and stop believing he's the 2nd coming of Frazier. Alvarado vs Rios could be contested inside of a walk in closet with Alvarado being taylor made and when its all said and done he'll prob come in the smaller guy. Good bash up whatever the case, hope Mike whips him but don't think so.
Brilliant match up can't wait for this one...
I'm very pleased with this choice of opponent. Nishioka arguably has claim to the top spot at 122 with Donaire behind him.
This will be a fantastic fight and if in the mean time Guillermo can fight someone noteworthy and then fight Mares and the winner of those fights....yeah I doubt that its gonna happen this year :(
BUT this fight will be fantastic competitive fight.
Unfortunately, Rigondeaux does have a fight scheduled and it's against another non-top-10 guy. He's really not doing a good job of building up his "Nonito's ducking me" argument. I do think he'd destroy Mares though -- one of the most overrated guys around.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
I understand Anselmo Moreno is at 118 right now, but I view Moreno as a legitimate threat to any of the guys mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaUnfortunately, Rigondeaux does have a fight scheduled and it's against another non-top-10 guy. He's really not doing a good job of building up his "Nonito's ducking me" argument. I do think he'd destroy Mares though -- one of the most overrated guys around.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
I agree completely. I would rank them Donaire - Moreno - Rigondeaux - Mares. I wouldn't view any outcomes among the first three as a huge upset. I think Mares is a clear class below.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI understand Anselmo Moreno is at 118 right now, but I view Moreno as a legitimate threat to any of the guys mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaUnfortunately, Rigondeaux does have a fight scheduled and it's against another non-top-10 guy. He's really not doing a good job of building up his "Nonito's ducking me" argument. I do think he'd destroy Mares though -- one of the most overrated guys around.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
Right. There is a reason that Mares didn't mention Moreno as a possible opponent after he won his last fight, even though they share the same promoter, and the fight would be easy to make. However, I actually am a fan of Mares. On that list though, he ranks below the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI agree completely. I would rank them Donaire - Moreno - Rigondeaux - Mares. I wouldn't view any outcomes among the first three as a huge upset. I think Mares is a clear class below.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI understand Anselmo Moreno is at 118 right now, but I view Moreno as a legitimate threat to any of the guys mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaUnfortunately, Rigondeaux does have a fight scheduled and it's against another non-top-10 guy. He's really not doing a good job of building up his "Nonito's ducking me" argument. I do think he'd destroy Mares though -- one of the most overrated guys around.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
With regard to the above list, Nishioka is a wild card too and should be somewhere on that list. I haven't seen quite enough of him to predict an upset in this fight, but he looks very good from what I have seen.
Rantcatrat, I don't know how I (and you too, I guess) missed this, but it looks like Moreno is moving up to 122 and making his debut there against Mares on Showtime on the same night as HBO puts on the Donaire-Nishioka fight: Mares-Moreno, Abril-Bogere, Russell, Olympians eyed for Oct. 13-14 | RingTV and HBO, Showtime fall dates to clash | RingTVQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratRight. There is a reason that Mares didn't mention Moreno as a possible opponent after he won his last fight, even though they share the same promoter, and the fight would be easy to make. However, I actually am a fan of Mares. On that list though, he ranks below the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI agree completely. I would rank them Donaire - Moreno - Rigondeaux - Mares. I wouldn't view any outcomes among the first three as a huge upset. I think Mares is a clear class below.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI understand Anselmo Moreno is at 118 right now, but I view Moreno as a legitimate threat to any of the guys mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaUnfortunately, Rigondeaux does have a fight scheduled and it's against another non-top-10 guy. He's really not doing a good job of building up his "Nonito's ducking me" argument. I do think he'd destroy Mares though -- one of the most overrated guys around.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
With regard to the above list, Nishioka is a wild card too and should be somewhere on that list. I haven't seen quite enough of him to predict an upset in this fight, but he looks very good from what I have seen.
Edit: never mind -- just saw your post on this - should be great. I'm wondering what the odds will be -- this could be a good one to put money on Moreno.
In preparation for the Donaire-Nishioka fight this weekend, here is the video (translated) of Nishioka versus R. Marquez:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o1-vsqakIE
This weekend we have ourselves a good night of fights. I'm most looking forward to the unification fight between Nonito Donaire and Toshiaki Nishioka.
Nishioka is Donaire's first fight against a southpaw at 122. He's also Donaire's size, maybe even naturally bigger. He's agile and pretty cute defensively. Nishioka might also match Donaire in speed, at the least, he's fast too.
Clearly, Donaire is no louch. Yet, at 122, against Vasquez Jr. and Mathebula, Donaire didn't appear invincible. His record in big fights can't be denied though.
What I like most about this fight is that you get a sense that these two skilled warriors fight on Saturday for legacy. It's not about money or fame for them. They wanted to fight the best to see where they stand. Call it naievete, fine, but that's how I see it. In any event, this fight has all the ingredients for a terrific boxing match that I'm very enthusiastic about.
Agreed. This is one of the best cards of the year, IMO. The co-feature (Alvarado-Rios) will be a great fight to watch too -- less skill, more aggression. Can't wait!
Looking forward for this fight this weekend. Donaire is facing his great assignment to date against Japan's Speed King Nishioka.
Who's your bet fight fans?
I'm looking forward to this card, no picks from me but the matchmaker should get a pat on the back. I really respect Donaire, he fights them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by reinvaldez
Donaire/Rios. Can't wait for these fights.
Am gutted that this does not seem to be on boxnation or Sky. Donaire / Nishioka could be a real classic and hopefully Rios gets battered though I can't see Alvarado being the one to do it.
Agreed on both counts. Alvarado has rice paper instead of skin and may start to bleed on the ring walk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
A great weekend of action! Friday card on Showtime as well, minus the J Taylor fight thankfully. Donaire has looked a bit soft to me and really getting ahead of himself, with the loading up and the multiple division talk. If he approaches Nishioka the way he did Vazquez I think he's kept off rythem and losses. Good to see Rios admit the obvious and finally move up vs a live Alvarado. Wouldn't suprise me if he's near 150 + when the bell rings and I would love to see Mike whip him but don't think he has the backfoot and one punch pop to do it but it'll be fun stuff trying.
:action: Some great fights on Saturday, Donaire vs. Nishioka and Alvarado vs. Rios
Oct. 13
At Carson, Calif. (HBO): Nonito Donaire vs. Toshiaki Nishioka, 12 rounds, for Donaire's WBO/IBF junior featherweight title; Mike Alvarado vs. Brandon Rios, 10 rounds, junior welterweights; Jose Benavidez Jr. vs. Pavel Miranda, 8 rounds, junior welterweights.
Why don't we use this as the fight thread. :cool: :beerchug:
Donaire by 8th rd KO.
Looking forward to this card
Anyone know if Alvarado - Rios and Donaire - Nishioka is being shown in the UK?
@GAME - just on boxingguru from what I gather.
Is anyone predicting a Nishioka win?
No. I'm picking Donaire, though I wouldn't be too surprised if Nishioka won. The 11-month layoff at his age is not a good thing though, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
I suppose I'll pick Rios too, though I'd like to see him lose and would be even less surprised if my pick was wrong there. That is an even fight, IMO.
Weigh-in pics: Gallery - Category: Donaire-Nishioka, Rios-Alvarado weigh-in - [! JGS_P | RingTV
Rios looks fat. Alvarado will outweigh him in the ring for sure. I might have to switch my pick on that one.
Donaire and Nishioka both look in great shape (as does Alvarado).
Hello all...
I was at the weigh in today. Here are my thoughts on it.
I also have pictures and videos including Roy Jones. Check it out.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...cs-videos.html
@CutMeMick - was Donaire bowing to Nishioka as a sign of respect in one of your pictures?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I'm not as high on Rigondeaux as before the Marroquin fight. I know he has a belt, I know he won the fight, but Marroquin had him wobbling twice in that fight. I could be wrong, Rigondeaux had a lot going on outside the ring before the fight. Time will tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI agree completely. I would rank them Donaire - Moreno - Rigondeaux - Mares. I wouldn't view any outcomes among the first three as a huge upset. I think Mares is a clear class below.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI understand Anselmo Moreno is at 118 right now, but I view Moreno as a legitimate threat to any of the guys mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaQuote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
Unfortunately, Rigondeaux does have a fight scheduled and it's against another non-top-10 guy. He's really not doing a good job of building up his "Nonito's ducking me" argument. I do think he'd destroy Mares though -- one of the most overrated guys around.
@RantcatratQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat@CutMeMick - was Donaire bowing to Nishioka as a sign of respect in one of your pictures?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Yes...
He bowed twice. When they first met up center stage to take pics and once they were done taking pics.
Very respectful and gentleman like as usual from Donaire.
I'm picking the underdog. I noticed that Donaire gets bored too easily in the ring and he gets hit too much. He's got nice power and speed. He is taller and fresher legs. However as I said earlier he just gets hit too much and his punch output has decreased.
A technician vs a boxer who loves to knock out generally leads to the technician winning by dismantling the opponent.
However Nishioka is older, much older.
This card starts @10:00 PM ET or about 3 hours from now on HBO - Banzai bitches! :drinker:
At Carson, Calif. (HBO): Nonito Donaire vs. Toshiaki Nishioka, 12 rounds, for Donaire's WBO/IBF junior featherweight title; Mike Alvarado vs. Brandon Rios, 10 rounds, junior welterweights; Jose Benavidez Jr. vs. Pavel Miranda, 8 rounds, junior welterweights.
:drunks:
Nonito was raised old school discipline by his military dad. I remember him bowing and leaning his forehead on Montiel's dad's hand. We call that mano po in the Philippines. That's how we show respect to our elders. Sad thing is, most young Pinoy generation now a days don't do that anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick@RantcatratQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat@CutMeMick - was Donaire bowing to Nishioka as a sign of respect in one of your pictures?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Yes...
He bowed twice. When they first met up center stage to take pics and once they were done taking pics.
Very respectful and gentleman like as usual from Donaire.
@CutMeMick,Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick@RantcatratQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat@CutMeMick - was Donaire bowing to Nishioka as a sign of respect in one of your pictures?Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Yes...
He bowed twice. When they first met up center stage to take pics and once they were done taking pics.
Very respectful and gentleman like as usual from Donaire.
Great job on the thread you posted, the interviews were really professional looking, I hope you do more of them for Saddos.
As for tonight's fights, Donaire by KO somewhere after 6th round - And as much as i'd truly love to see Alvarado stomp a mudhole in Rios' ass, i'll say Rios wins a SD. (I hope i'm wrong)
cheers dude