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Which rematch makes most sense for Pacquiao?
So the three choices for Pacquiaos next fight are; Bradley, Marquez or Cotto. I personally couldn't be bothered watching a Bradley fight any time soon, I really didn't enjoy the fight and thought Pacquiao won. I just don't think we should be paying big money again for another potential shit fight.
I think Marquez does deserve another shot, but will he get shafted again? I think Pacquiao isn't performing like he use to and maybe Marquez could beat him this time. I would settle for the this rematch the most out of the three.
I think Cotto looked good against Mayweather, but if he did rematch pacquiao the fight wouldn't happen at 154 so I don't know what the outcome would be. If Cotto is allowed to fight at what weight he wants, I think he would do a lot better this time than last time. I personally wouldn't mind seeing this fight again, it might make Pacquiao get engaged more because Cotto would be pressing the action.
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Bradley, of course, would anything else do, whether it makes sense or not? Bradley is a question that must be answered first! Let's give Bradley a chance to do it again, if he can. I want a different crew keeping score, how about you?
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So the three choices for Pacquiaos next fight are; Bradley, Marquez or Cotto. I personally couldn't be bothered watching a Bradley fight any time soon, I really didn't enjoy the fight and thought Pacquiao won. I just don't think we should be paying big money again for another potential shit fight.
Tom you should have went with cents instead of sense. It all gives me chills. Manny's passive demeanor after Bradley was almost jaw dropping. I was close to calling it a fix.
I think Marquez does deserve another shot, but will he get shafted again? I think Pacquiao isn't performing like he use to and maybe Marquez could beat him this time. I would settle for the this rematch the most out of the three.
Me 2 and in Mexico at the Aztec Arena. Biggest mony of the lot if HBO is willing to travel
I think Cotto looked good against Mayweather, but if he did rematch pacquiao the fight wouldn't happen at 154 so I don't know what the outcome would be. If Cotto is allowed to fight at what weight he wants, I think he would do a lot better this time than last time. I personally wouldn't mind seeing this fight again, it might make Pacquiao get engaged more because Cotto would be pressing the action.
Have always maintained that Floyd let Cotto in the fight. No belts on the line and no Arum telling Cotto what to do. 152 Manny?
Here is where I have to bab on because I replied to you in quote and never met character requirements. Manny is a foot away from spent.
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I think people are "Pac-Marquez-ed" out.
The Bradley fight, although not that entertaining, created questions that need to be answered.
A Cotto rematch would be the best, I think. But would have to be at 154, which Manny can do. Cotto now has a real corner... not the clueless Joe Santiago. And the Cotto that fought Floyd would give Pac all he could handle. It would be an extremely competitive fight, where I'd give Cotto a 50/50 chance to win.
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I'd rather see him vs Cotto at 154 than any of the others, though I don't think there's any way Manny will agree to that. I actually have no interest in the others. I'd prefer Marquez to Bradley I guess, but I don't think there's any need for a fourth fight -- the outcome will be exactly the same as the others -- very close, hotly disputed, and less action than the preceding one.
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He needs to avenge the Bradley loss for sure, if not then Cotto is the one who deserves a shot. However i think the Pacquiao tank is running close to empty, i fear a huge KO loss looming sooner rather than later. Time is catching up on him fast.
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Out of those three? The guy who beat him, the guy who got the wrong score given.
(I'm talking about JMM, not Bradley)
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The best choice will be Bradley.
1. Better chance of beating Bradley. Cotto did look good and will not come down in weight again. And JMM always and will be a problem.
2. Mayweather logoical choice should be Bradley. The person that beat him(Pacman).
3. The only way to end a JMM saga, is to KO him(JMM). In which will be a lose/lose situation. JMM is old. JMM beat Pacman once, twice or even all 3 of the other times they fought.
4. JMM will always be available. Even after a lose.
5. Pacman needs to learn how to box with a boxer that's not going to come in a straight line to get ready for Mayweather if that fight ever happen.
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Tam Seddon
So the three choices for Pacquiaos next fight are; Bradley, Marquez or Cotto. I personally couldn't be bothered watching a Bradley fight any time soon, I really didn't enjoy the fight and thought Pacquiao won. I just don't think we should be paying big money again for another potential shit fight.
I think Marquez does deserve another shot, but will he get shafted again? I think Pacquiao isn't performing like he use to and maybe Marquez could beat him this time. I would settle for the this rematch the most out of the three.
I think Cotto looked good against Mayweather, but if he did rematch pacquiao the fight wouldn't happen at 154 so I don't know what the outcome would be. If Cotto is allowed to fight at what weight he wants, I think he would do a lot better this time than last time. I personally wouldn't mind seeing this fight again, it might make Pacquiao get engaged more because Cotto would be pressing the action.
Pacquiao doesn't deserve another shot against Marquez because he's 0-3 against him.
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Tam Seddon
So the three choices for Pacquiaos next fight are; Bradley, Marquez or Cotto. I personally couldn't be bothered watching a Bradley fight any time soon, I really didn't enjoy the fight and thought Pacquiao won. I just don't think we should be paying big money again for another potential shit fight.
I think Marquez does deserve another shot, but will he get shafted again? I think Pacquiao isn't performing like he use to and maybe Marquez could beat him this time. I would settle for the this rematch the most out of the three.
I think Cotto looked good against Mayweather, but if he did rematch pacquiao the fight wouldn't happen at 154 so I don't know what the outcome would be. If Cotto is allowed to fight at what weight he wants, I think he would do a lot better this time than last time. I personally wouldn't mind seeing this fight again, it might make Pacquiao get engaged more because Cotto would be pressing the action.
Pacquiao doesn't deserve another shot against Marquez because he's 0-3 against him.
In your opinion, which is a valid one but when I look at boxrec it says 2-0-1 pacquiao I'm afraid. So Marquez should be granted another fight as pacquiao is on the slide and maybe he will beat him convincingly enough to finally get the offical win.
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So the three choices for Pacquiaos next fight are; Bradley, Marquez or Cotto. I personally couldn't be bothered watching a Bradley fight any time soon, I really didn't enjoy the fight and thought Pacquiao won. I just don't think we should be paying big money again for another potential shit fight.
I think Marquez does deserve another shot, but will he get shafted again? I think Pacquiao isn't performing like he use to and maybe Marquez could beat him this time. I would settle for the this rematch the most out of the three.
I think Cotto looked good against Mayweather, but if he did rematch pacquiao the fight wouldn't happen at 154 so I don't know what the outcome would be. If Cotto is allowed to fight at what weight he wants, I think he would do a lot better this time than last time. I personally wouldn't mind seeing this fight again, it might make Pacquiao get engaged more because Cotto would be pressing the action.
Pacquiao doesn't deserve another shot against Marquez because he's 0-3 against him.
In your opinion, which is a valid one but when I look at boxrec it says 2-0-1 pacquiao I'm afraid. So Marquez should be granted another fight as pacquiao is on the slide and maybe he will beat him convincingly enough to finally get the offical win.
I don't want to see it i think people are tired of it aswell in general, i think as do many JMM beat him convincingly i had it 7-4-1. Yet he still didn't get the win, and it was his most convincing performance vs Manny Pacquiao. Remember JMM is older than Manny Pacquaio, and has been in just as many tough fights. Let them move on and do there own thing.
Manny Pacquiao still has business to deal with Timothy Bradley, who's to say he even wins the rematch ? i thought the 1st fight was alot closer than people thought, and the longer Manny Pacquiao goes on the worse he's going to get. Hell he could get worse just in his next fight with Timothy Bradley, it was shocking how he faded so badly in the 2nd half of the fight.
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None are great options. The Bradley fight wasn't especially exciting. Marquez, been there, done that. Cotto, Pacquiao beat convincingly already, and if Pacquiao doesn't want to go up to 154, where Cotto is now, I don't blame him. Cotto appears to not be as effective at 147. So, what do you do? Maybe Cotto at 150 is the best option or Bradley, to right the wrong?
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So the three choices for Pacquiaos next fight are; Bradley, Marquez or Cotto. I personally couldn't be bothered watching a Bradley fight any time soon, I really didn't enjoy the fight and thought Pacquiao won. I just don't think we should be paying big money again for another potential shit fight.
I think Marquez does deserve another shot, but will he get shafted again? I think Pacquiao isn't performing like he use to and maybe Marquez could beat him this time. I would settle for the this rematch the most out of the three.
I think Cotto looked good against Mayweather, but if he did rematch pacquiao the fight wouldn't happen at 154 so I don't know what the outcome would be. If Cotto is allowed to fight at what weight he wants, I think he would do a lot better this time than last time. I personally wouldn't mind seeing this fight again, it might make Pacquiao get engaged more because Cotto would be pressing the action.
Pacquiao doesn't deserve another shot against Marquez because he's 0-3 against him.
In your opinion, which is a valid one but when I look at boxrec it says 2-0-1 pacquiao I'm afraid. So Marquez should be granted another fight as pacquiao is on the slide and maybe he will beat him convincingly enough to finally get the offical win.
I don't want to see it i think people are tired of it aswell in general, i think as do many JMM beat him convincingly i had it 7-4-1. Yet he still didn't get the win, and it was his most convincing performance vs Manny Pacquiao. Remember JMM is older than Manny Pacquaio, and has been in just as many tough fights. Let them move on and do there own thing.
Manny Pacquiao still has business to deal with Timothy Bradley, who's to say he even wins the rematch ? i thought the 1st fight was alot closer than people thought, and the longer Manny Pacquiao goes on the worse he's going to get. Hell he could get worse just in his next fight with Timothy Bradley, it was shocking how he faded so badly in the 2nd half of the fight.
I agree with what your saying manny really is there for the taking. Whoever he fights I think the fight would be close. I just think in terms of a better fight to watch id prefer pacquiao to fight Marquez instead of Bradley. I thought the Bradley fight was just boring, the marquez fights were a lot better. I don't want to pay for a Bradley rematch it wasn't enjoyable.
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Honestly I think Manny needs to decide what he wants to do fulltime now. Either your all in or your all out and aside from hashish smoking judges, that's what let a one footed Bradley sneak up on him. Manny won, but he looked disinterested and like he was bored with it all. He needs that rematch to kick the door in and just erase the stench, get back to his primal brutal you don't belong in my ring roots. I have zero interest in a forth go with Marquez, been there, done that, own the t shirt. Honestly so much time will always be spent debating 1,2,3 that just another one will be an after though or more of the same.
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I think Manny does have the dilemma in that he wants to fight in November but Bradley may not be fit in time and is not the most marketable.
If I was Manny I would fight Bradley to avenge the last loss. If he fights JMM he will not get a gift decision especially if they have it in Mexico and is just setting Manny up to fail. Manny should not bother going up to fight the left over’s of Floyd.
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You know what I'd LOVE for Manny Pacquiao, is for someone to turn up and REALLY fight. I mean meet him head on. Maybe Brandon Rios at 140. Or maybe a Margarito before the Mosley pasting, like straight after he squashed Cotto.......
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Isn't that what Bradley did????
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Isn't that what Bradley did????
No..... Not IMO. You think Bradley brought a fight, like a fight that would be brought by a Rios or peak Margarito. Nahhh... I just wanna see Pacquiao in a FOTY WAR, he's got it in him for sure.
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Isn't that what Bradley did????
No..... Not IMO. You think Bradley brought a fight, like a fight that would be brought by a Rios or peak Margarito. Nahhh... I just wanna see Pacquiao in a FOTY WAR
He fought the best he could and was always coming forward. Rios is too lazy to make weight... and Pac wouldn't be bothered to drop down to 140 anyway. And by "peak Margarito".... do you mean the Margarito BEFORE his cheating scumbag ways were discovered?
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Isn't that what Bradley did????
No..... Not IMO. You think Bradley brought a fight, like a fight that would be brought by a Rios or peak Margarito. Nahhh... I just wanna see Pacquiao in a FOTY WAR
He fought the best he could and was always coming forward. Rios is too lazy to make weight... and Pac wouldn't be bothered to drop down to 140 anyway.
And by "peak Margarito".... do you mean the Margarito BEFORE his cheating scumbag ways were discovered?
I guess so.
I'm not saying he hasn't fought the best, I just want to see him in a FOTY. Not seen that since Marquez II. I would have loved to have seen Valero against Pac. That had FOTY written all over it for me. Or even Cotto before Margarito pasted him.
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Isn't that what Bradley did????
No..... Not IMO. You think Bradley brought a fight, like a fight that would be brought by a Rios or peak Margarito. Nahhh... I just wanna see Pacquiao in a FOTY WAR
He fought the best he could and was always coming forward. Rios is too lazy to make weight... and Pac wouldn't be bothered to drop down to 140 anyway.
And by "peak Margarito".... do you mean the Margarito BEFORE his cheating scumbag ways were discovered?
I guess so.
I'm not saying he hasn't fought the best, I just want to see him in a FOTY. Not seen that since Marquez II. I would have loved to have seen Valero against Pac. That had FOTY written all over it for me. Or even Cotto before Margarito pasted him.
I see what you mean. Pac is waning now, so the window of opportunity for such a fight is closing. I think today's Cotto... fully recovered from Margarito's plaster punches... and with a decent trainer on board... would give Pac a hell of a fight. Maybe even win. I think the Cotto that lost to Mayweather would probably beat Pac. But as for other opponents... there don't seem to be very many out there that would give Pac that FOTY you're talking about.
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I think Pacquiao may have slipped enough to the point where Lucas Matthyse would give him an extremely good fight, it certainly wouldn't have a dull moment regardless. As for the rematches mentioned I'm not sure, Cotto may well be capable of beating him at 154, but there is almost no way Pacquiao fights him above welterweight in my eyes. I actually think Joan Guzman could still beat Pacquiao as well, although of course that isn't about to happen. It's a terrible style for Manny the way he has looked lately though, and assuming Guzman still has his faculties he'd certainly have a great chance to win imo.
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i smell pac v hatton 2 in manchester.
$$$
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He needs to man the fuck up and fight mayweather.
Bob Arum isn't his daddy.
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i smell pac v hatton 2 in manchester.
$$$
Finally someone has said it out loud
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It should be Cotto at 150lbs
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i smell pac v hatton 2 in manchester.
$$$
If so..... I smell "smelling salts" in industrial quantities.
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Id only buy one fight and that isnt happening, so he can go away now, I lost interest in both of them,they can both go away.
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Bradley, of course, would anything else do, whether it makes sense or not? Bradley is a question that must be answered first! Let's give Bradley a chance to do it again, if he can. I want a different crew keeping score, how about you?
Anything else would do than a rematch. Most everyone thought Pac won and the fight wasn't that exciting to begin with. So I figure Pac will go with the guy who can get him the most PPV which is Marquez.
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Pacquiao should avenge his loss to Bradley first,and then fight JMM
for the final time and call it a day.
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Bradley, of course, would anything else do, whether it makes sense or not? Bradley is a question that must be answered first! Let's give Bradley a chance to do it again, if he can. I want a different crew keeping score, how about you?
Anything else would do than a rematch. Most everyone thought Pac won and the fight wasn't that exciting to begin with. So I figure Pac will go with the guy who can get him the most PPV which is Marquez.
I'm not sure Marquez gets more PPV than Cotto. But I also agree with others that Manny won't go up to 154. But yes, obviously either of those fights brings in way more money and interest than a Bradley rematch.
Wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Floyd take Bradley as a stay-busy/just-out-of-jail November fight.
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Garcia's Take on Bradley, Marquez Facing Pacquiao Again - Boxing News
apparently its looking more like Bradley as Marquez has priced himself out of a rematch??
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JMM should take the fight, it is an opportunity he may never get again.
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If JMM thinks he deserve more money with an official lost, why can't Bradley ask for more with an official victory. Bob Arum and Manny is going to far now. Pacman vs Berto is what I vote for. To bad promoters won't work together. So Bradley will get the nod.
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So the three choices for Pacquiaos next fight are; Bradley, Marquez or Cotto. I personally couldn't be bothered watching a Bradley fight any time soon, I really didn't enjoy the fight and thought Pacquiao won. I just don't think we should be paying big money again for another potential shit fight.
I think Marquez does deserve another shot, but will he get shafted again? I think Pacquiao isn't performing like he use to and maybe Marquez could beat him this time. I would settle for the this rematch the most out of the three.
I think Cotto looked good against Mayweather, but if he did rematch pacquiao the fight wouldn't happen at 154 so I don't know what the outcome would be. If Cotto is allowed to fight at what weight he wants, I think he would do a lot better this time than last time. I personally wouldn't mind seeing this fight again, it might make Pacquiao get engaged more because Cotto would be pressing the action.
Pacquiao doesn't deserve another shot against Marquez because he's 0-3 against him.
Marquez did not beat Pacquiao convincingly so sorry for him.
Pacquiao did not knock Bradley down when it seems he can so sorry for him too.
So whatever is in the record books stands as much as some of us don't agree with them. Until they change the way scoring is done in boxing, then we should stop whining about my guy beating your guy when that isn't what's in the official record. Whining a few weeks after the fight is understandable. After months or years has passed it's time to move on.
I agree that Manny is there for the taking. Whoever of the three he fights I would not be surprised if he gets knocked down. It's time for him to retire.
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I hate to say this but no more JMM fights. Every single one broke my heart and I don't think I can stomach another fight. I'd like to see Pacquiao fight Cotto again because I like the new improved Cotto as he has more game in his gameplan.
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Bradley was clearly outboxing Pacquiao through the first five rounds.
Then in round six, Bradley just SMASHED Pacquiao and knocked him unconscious.
Then the ref ruled it was a headbutt, and they went to the scorecards for a technical decision. Even though Bradley was beating the sh*t out of Pacquiao, the judges screwed Tim over and gave the decision to Pacquiao.
It was just a horrible situation.
I wan't to see some knockout decision for their rematch!
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Bradley was clearly outboxing Pacquiao through the first five rounds.
Then in round six, Bradley just SMASHED Pacquiao and knocked him unconscious.
Then the ref ruled it was a headbutt, and they went to the scorecards for a technical decision. Even though Bradley was beating the sh*t out of Pacquiao, the judges screwed Tim over and gave the decision to Pacquiao.
It was just a horrible situation.
I wan't to see some knockout decision for their rematch!
Welcome and which fight were you watching?
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