Welcome back ricky....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xODw...eature=related

Such a warrior. Only lost to the two top dogs in the sport on the downside of his career. Boxing has missed you. Hope it goes well for ya champ....i for one thought id never see it!

The dude want's to get his life back on track after struggling with a cocaine addiction and spiralling into depression, Respect to the hitman. Let's get behind him and drop the synicism.

It will be huge his comeback fight, absolutely massive, and il be watching for sure!

Got no respect for somebody who has talent, fame and wealth and after his career manages to snort, eat and drink it away.

I have a lot of respect for the man. If he is to comeback then I am all for it. Hatton knows himself best and he isn't old and has had a lot of rest. Morales got thumped by Pac and hid and he came back. Hatton can do likewise. Hatton was excellent.

Hatton was just about up there. That Pac loss let everyone tear him up though and bring him down. But Hatton was on that level.

I wish him well.

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How can anyone NOT respect ricky hatton!!

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quick to judge someone, aren't you. Everyone loses a battle along the way. Respect to Hatton.

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Have you ever been famous, had some talent, and became wealthy? No?! Didnt think so, You shouldnt chastise someone till you walk in their shoes AdamGB ;)

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You say this as if there is some correlation between it all, is simply being famous and wealthy enough to deter one from having any demons in your mind? Not that theres any obligation to respect the man, but it's really his own damn business when it comes down to it. I take it you don't know him personally? Why give a shit what he does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UeYWanxhfs

Great memories

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You're calling him a cunt for his lifestyle in retirement and then a cunt for changing it?

Coming from a family of addicts, I'll give it up to him for overcoming that kind of adversity because it's never EVER easy. Warrior then, warrior now. All the best to him and his loved ones.

May his future be fruitful!

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Nope, I couldn't care less if he gets clean, but I never said that made him a cunt :vd:

Coming back against cherry picked opponents to milk money out of any mug getting dewy eyed at the thought of 'walking in a hatton wonderland' would make him a cunt in my eyes.

'walk a mile in his shoes'? Am I talking to a bunch of 15 year olds here? The type of bullshit cliche people pull out of the bag only when it suits them... Meanwhile, back inthe real world we all judge EVERYBODY, without living paralell lives to them :rolleyes:

I have every right not to respect him for going off the rails despite having sucsess, opportunities and supportive parents... Just as you lot have every right not to respect my opinion (which I'm sure you all don't, in which case the butthurt on display must just mean a few sore nerves)

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Nope, I couldn't care less if he gets clean, but I never said that made him a cunt :vd:

Coming back against cherry picked opponents to milk money out of any mug getting dewy eyed at the thought of 'walking in a hatton wonderland' would make him a cunt in my eyes.

'walk a mile in his shoes'? Am I talking to a bunch of 15 year olds here? The type of bullshit cliche people pull out of the bag only when it suits them... Meanwhile, back inthe real world we all judge EVERYBODY, without living paralell lives to them :rolleyes:

I have every right not to respect him for going off the rails despite having sucsess, opportunities and supportive parents... Just as you lot have every right not to respect my opinion (which I'm sure you all don't, in which case the butthurt on display must just mean a few sore nerves)

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Being a fan does not have to equate to being dewy eyed. It is quite possible to be a realist and still respect someone flaws and all. Using terms like Butthurt when people diagree with you though puts you dangerously close to those who call others "fanboy" whenever someone expresses appreciation for a fighter that they think, for whatever reason, is overhyped or over rated. So a lot of casual fans, who are probably also big football fans, sing Hatton Wonderland, and because you quite justifiably are not a big fan of spoilt Premiership players, and are more professionally involved in Boxing, you then think automatically taht they are being taken advantage of if they pay to watch him pick a hand picked opponent?

People are a lot more savvy than you give them credit for. You can judge who you like but Ricky Hatton has and will continue to give in whatever capacity a lot to British boxing and it's profile around the world. If a fighter can pack out a stadium and sell truckloads of pay per view it is good for the sport.

As a hard core Hatton fan I was hoping he'd stay retired but also knew that no way did he want to go out the way he did. I remember being the only guy in the bar cheering for him in the Zu fight.

I could care less if he did a few rails in between fights or after he retired. He liked his pints and food long before he retired so that's also not a factor for me.

Dude was a gift to the boxing world and if he wants to come back then all the power to him. I wager it has nothing to do with the money and everything to do with his pride.

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Nope, I couldn't care less if he gets clean, but I never said that made him a cunt :vd:

Coming back against cherry picked opponents to milk money out of any mug getting dewy eyed at the thought of 'walking in a hatton wonderland' would make him a cunt in my eyes.

'walk a mile in his shoes'? Am I talking to a bunch of 15 year olds here? The type of bullshit cliche people pull out of the bag only when it suits them... Meanwhile, back inthe real world we all judge EVERYBODY, without living paralell lives to them :rolleyes:

I have every right not to respect him for going off the rails despite having sucsess, opportunities and supportive parents... Just as you lot have every right not to respect my opinion (which I'm sure you all don't, in which case the butthurt on display must just mean a few sore nerves)

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Being a fan does not have to equate to being dewy eyed. It is quite possible to be a realist and still respect someone flaws and all. Using terms like Butthurt when people diagree with you though puts you dangerously close to those who call others "fanboy" whenever someone expresses appreciation for a fighter that they think, for whatever reason, is overhyped or over rated. So a lot of casual fans, who are probably also big football fans, sing Hatton Wonderland, and because you quite justifiably are not a big fan of spoilt Premiership players, and are more professionally involved in Boxing, you then think automatically taht they are being taken advantage of if they pay to watch him pick a hand picked opponent?

People are a lot more savvy than you give them credit for. You can judge who you like but Ricky Hatton has and will continue to give in whatever capacity a lot to British boxing and it's profile around the world. If a fighter can pack out a stadium and sell truckloads of pay per view it is good for the sport.

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It's funny you alude to football, as the fact that people will pay the 1000% mark up that there has been in ticket prices, which has put most premiership players on par with bankers in what I would term as unfair pay (despite the arogant, ignorant attitude of most... Full stadiums are only good for business, not the sport) shows me that people are not as savvy as you'd hope... ;)

Hatton coming back can't really hurt boxing, but as a boxing fan? I find it hard to have an interest in what would be little more than exhibitions.

I have only best wishes for Hatten. Haven't any idea what he's thinking or why he wants to get back in the ring. I just hope he still has the drive and commitment it will take to get in shape. Hatten looked good in the photo with Evander, it was a good start I'm thinking.

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Nope, I couldn't care less if he gets clean, but I never said that made him a cunt :vd:

Coming back against cherry picked opponents to milk money out of any mug getting dewy eyed at the thought of 'walking in a hatton wonderland' would make him a cunt in my eyes.

'walk a mile in his shoes'? Am I talking to a bunch of 15 year olds here? The type of bullshit cliche people pull out of the bag only when it suits them... Meanwhile, back inthe real world we all judge EVERYBODY, without living paralell lives to them :rolleyes:

I have every right not to respect him for going off the rails despite having sucsess, opportunities and supportive parents... Just as you lot have every right not to respect my opinion (which I'm sure you all don't, in which case the butthurt on display must just mean a few sore nerves)

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Nope, I couldn't care less if he gets clean, but I never said that made him a cunt :vd:

Coming back against cherry picked opponents to milk money out of any mug getting dewy eyed at the thought of 'walking in a hatton wonderland' would make him a cunt in my eyes.

'walk a mile in his shoes'? Am I talking to a bunch of 15 year olds here? The type of bullshit cliche people pull out of the bag only when it suits them... Meanwhile, back inthe real world we all judge EVERYBODY, without living paralell lives to them :rolleyes:

I have every right not to respect him for going off the rails despite having sucsess, opportunities and supportive parents... Just as you lot have every right not to respect my opinion (which I'm sure you all don't, in which case the butthurt on display must just mean a few sore nerves)

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Butthurt? Dewy eyed? Milking money from mugs? Cherry picked opponents?

What in the fuck are you waffling about? Seriously. ;D

He hasn't even announced the comeback yet let alone who he's fighting or where he's fighting or what TV station it will be on.

Throughout the history of boxing fighters come out of retirement. There are numerous reason why. Hatton's comeback will be nothing out of the norm. The fact he's a boxing star means he'll earn lots of money. So what?

If you don't like Hatton then don't watch him. Simple as. It's not rocket science.

quite frankly i dont care if he does fight someone shit

theres nowt like a ricky hatton fight :)

i'm a big Hatton fan, i was hoping if he does come back he fights someone that he will win then retire on a good note. He's 33 he was an aggressive fighter, fighters with his style dont stay in the game for to long unless he changes his style which he isnt going to do.

I hope he comes back gets a win and relizes he isnt as good as he was and retires with a win that i think he deserves.

I hope i can get tickets for his fight if he does come back otherwise i will not be happy. ;D

Look when i say lets not be synical im saying it with a sense of perspective also...no one is seriously suggesting he will become unified LWW champ again (not even ricky think's that i can asure you!) Nor do we expect him to steam roll over numerous world class opponents like he used to do, He never meant for the pacman fight to be his last, he deserves to finish on a high and fight a couple of farewell, fights for himself and his fans! Why would no one support such honourable intentions and hatton fights are HUGEEEEE, every fighter and boxing fan alike will scramble for tickets!! Wladimir klitschko is a massive hatton fan believe it or not! It will be good for some of the younger british fighters too to experience the hatton show!

Hatton was special, he just was, froch and hatton are cut from the same cloth yet carl never captured the public imagination like hatton for some reason! Calzaghe only ever courted the mass attention following lacy, most ppl followed hatton right from the get go, a lot of boxing fans grew up watching him and it is nice to know the show isn't over quite yet. Fighters like hatton come along once a generation, there's no one on coming through like him so we should appreciate him a little more, the sport is a far duller place without him!

Most fighters have problems dealing with life after the ring, i can list a dozen fighters straight off the top of my head that spiralled into vice following there careers, until u experience such highs and then come crashing down you should not judge! He should be commended for turning a shitty time into a positive, and believe me i hate most sportsmen, they are overpaid pre madonnas, on any other occasion i would be on here saying 'poor, over paid, pampered milionaire bla bla bla...' but hatton is a genuine guy and i think he deserves better.

And for the guy whining about he will fight some old LW or some nobody, i doubt it personally, its pointless coming back, they will be a couple of decent oponents, maybe not a cotto but someone worthy, and if he performs well who knows.....

Thats if he does come back, it's still not definite!!

It's a bit much bashing somebody for "going off the rails" when they're only engaging in behaviour that's generally socially acceptable. Drink and social drugs are both fine with the majority of people, where is he going off any rails?

His career came to an abrupt end with a shattering KO. At the level he was boxing at, the spectacularity of the KO and the fact that he was basically at the end of his prime and only going downhill from then on meant he retired. And then he behaved exactly like almost every wealthy young guy behaves, well within those parameters actually. Look at how many famous people you hear doing exactly the same sort of stuff and they're just the ones who get caught/don't have PR people to kill the stories in the media.

If he wants to come back to go out on a win then I'm right behind him. If he looks like he's got something left, and I don't think he will have, maybe another shot at a title, but hopefully he beats some journeyman up and goes out on a win.

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Nope, I couldn't care less if he gets clean, but I never said that made him a cunt :vd:

Coming back against cherry picked opponents to milk money out of any mug getting dewy eyed at the thought of 'walking in a hatton wonderland' would make him a cunt in my eyes.

'walk a mile in his shoes'? Am I talking to a bunch of 15 year olds here? The type of bullshit cliche people pull out of the bag only when it suits them... Meanwhile, back inthe real world we all judge EVERYBODY, without living paralell lives to them :rolleyes:

I have every right not to respect him for going off the rails despite having sucsess, opportunities and supportive parents... Just as you lot have every right not to respect my opinion (which I'm sure you all don't, in which case the butthurt on display must just mean a few sore nerves)

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"15 year old's hey"? Are we talking about 'hey' that belongs to a 15 year old? Or are you saying 15 year old 'is' hey? Why is there an apostrophe in "old's"? ???

Why isn't there an apostrophe and an in E in "YOUR not worth the time it takes to type this"? Did you use your (a possessive pronoun) instead of YOU'RE (A contraction of you are, as in "you are using awful grammar, but you think MINE is bad?!)?

Also, you don't seem to understand how commas work, leaving us with your horrible, fragmented syntax.

Sorry, did you say something to me about grammar? ??? ;D

The truth is, I couldn't care less about your grammar, but if you can't even correctly use your and you're, then all YOU'RE (not your...) doing is showing me how much of a moron you are.

Back on topic (don't go the grammar route next time, worse idea than Hatton fighting Pac)...

I don't care if over eating, drink and drugs are the norm for our peers, I hold elite athletes to a higher standard than that and if Hatton falls away from those standards then why should I respect him like I used to as an athlete? ???
...and no Fenster, I wasn't planning on watching him if he comes back... I thought I'd made that quite clear? :vd:

I don't respect him as an athlete anymore and I don't have any interest in watching him fight again... simple. I am only voicing my opinions, deal with it (you are not even expected to agree with them, just like you said: It's not rocket science).

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Nope, I couldn't care less if he gets clean, but I never said that made him a cunt :vd:

Coming back against cherry picked opponents to milk money out of any mug getting dewy eyed at the thought of 'walking in a hatton wonderland' would make him a cunt in my eyes.

'walk a mile in his shoes'? Am I talking to a bunch of 15 year olds here? The type of bullshit cliche people pull out of the bag only when it suits them... Meanwhile, back inthe real world we all judge EVERYBODY, without living paralell lives to them :rolleyes:

I have every right not to respect him for going off the rails despite having sucsess, opportunities and supportive parents... Just as you lot have every right not to respect my opinion (which I'm sure you all don't, in which case the butthurt on display must just mean a few sore nerves)

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"15 year old's hey"? Are we talking about 'hey' that belongs to a 15 year old? Or are you saying 15 year old 'is' hey? Why is there an apostrophe in "old's"? ???

Why isn't there an apostrophe and an in E in "YOUR not worth the time it takes to type this"? Did you use your (a possessive pronoun) instead of YOU'RE (A contraction of you are, as in "you are using awful grammar, but you think MINE is bad?!)?

Also, you don't seem to understand how commas work, leaving us with your horrible, fragmented syntax.

Sorry, did you say something to me about grammar? ??? ;D

The truth is, I couldn't care less about your grammar, but if you can't even correctly use your and you're, then all YOU'RE (not your...) doing is showing me how much of a moron you are.

Back on topic (don't go the grammar route next time, worse idea than Hatton fighting Pac)...

I don't care if over eating, drink and drugs are the norm for our peers, I hold elite athletes to a higher standard than that and if Hatton falls away from those standards then why should I respect him like I used to as an athlete? ???
...and no Fenster, I wasn't planning on watching him if he comes back... I thought I'd made that quite clear? :vd:

I don't respect him as an athlete anymore and I don't have any interest in watching him fight again... simple. I am only voicing my opinions, deal with it (you are not even expected to agree with them, just like you said: It's not rocket science).

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Yes..... welcome back, Ricky.

Welcome back to the life of being coke-free, and weighing less than 200 pounds.
Being a hero to most of England, I'm sure they're glad to have you back.
Talk of a comeback to professional boxing? That's another matter altogether.

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Yes, I find it hilarious that many people crying foul play at you for judging Ricky are the same people who call Floyd Mayweather a piece of shit when there wasn't even any conclusive evidence that he had got physical with the mother of his children...But..It's Ricky Hatton so whatever he does is fine.

Anyway, I'm not of the opinion that Hatton has done anything particularly wrong by doing coke - As Kirkland said, it's "socially acceptable" (which doesn't make it right but to each their own). I personally have never liked Ricky's fighting style anyway and disliked his lack of discipline between fights. I don't see why I have to particularly "respect" him..for what? He gets respect as a human being from me but not as a fighter.

He'll come in against someone weak, win, and then let his huge ego get the better of him. He'll think he can mix it at the top again resulting in another comedy K.O. Remember folks, this is the same guy that said, "There's no way Floyd can knock me out, he must be mad" and "I was winning the 2nd round by a country mile!" in a fight where he was steamrolled..

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Nope, I couldn't care less if he gets clean, but I never said that made him a cunt :vd:

Coming back against cherry picked opponents to milk money out of any mug getting dewy eyed at the thought of 'walking in a hatton wonderland' would make him a cunt in my eyes.

'walk a mile in his shoes'? Am I talking to a bunch of 15 year olds here? The type of bullshit cliche people pull out of the bag only when it suits them... Meanwhile, back inthe real world we all judge EVERYBODY, without living paralell lives to them :rolleyes:

I have every right not to respect him for going off the rails despite having sucsess, opportunities and supportive parents... Just as you lot have every right not to respect my opinion (which I'm sure you all don't, in which case the butthurt on display must just mean a few sore nerves)

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By the ref yes! Also hatton is better suited to LWW. All the odds were in floyd's favour that night, the ref, home town, his division! Cortez played a big part in that fight! Floyd beat's ricky 9 times out of 10 but a hatton who is allowed to 'dog it up ' (Which was hatton's Modus operandi after all!) on the inside give's floyd a much harder night! Hatton pre-tszyu (not the UK media darling fighting in the US) gives floyd a rough night IMO.

Barry Mcguigan: "Joe Cortez was very biased I thought" I agree. Also mcguigan stated before the fight "Cortez will have a crucial role to play in determining how the fight develops. I just hope the referee Cortez allows [Hatton] to get inside because that will be his best tactic"

Hatton pleaded with referee Cortez to let fight flow beforehand in an interview too, so he was aware of the influence joe would have prior to the fight. Compare cortez's interference with the hatton/castillo fight (HARDLY INTERVENED!) and then watch him in the mayweather/hatton fight (He broke the two when they touched for more than a split second and took a point from Hatton for an illegal punch that didn't even land LOL!)

Check out cortez in the Whitaker vs. Savarese fight! He told Savarese to get up. I think if he hadn't whitaker would have won by KO.

So sorry but cortez ruined that fight for hatton. It seemed like cortez ignored a lot of floyd being the one who was holding on in clinches and was using his forearm-elbow push off constantly and wasn't really warned about it. Stopping ricky from fighting on the inside is like taking wladimir klitschko's jab away!

You missed a few 9's and 0's. Floyd beats Hatton 999 times out of 1,000.
WITH.... or without Joe Cortez.

Floyd's weight? He started off much smaller than Hatton.

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I started off much smaller than I am now. When I was born I was tiny.

So you're saying you want their baby weights?

Never seen that on Tale of the Tape before... ;)

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By the ref yes! Also hatton is better suited to LWW. All the odds were in floyd's favour that night, the ref, home town, his division! Cortez played a big part in that fight! Floyd beat's ricky 9 times out of 10 but a hatton who is allowed to 'dog it up ' (Which was hatton's Modus operandi after all!) on the inside give's floyd a much harder night! Hatton pre-tszyu (not the UK media darling fighting in the US) gives floyd a rough night IMO.

Barry Mcguigan: "Joe Cortez was very biased I thought" I agree. Also mcguigan stated before the fight "Cortez will have a crucial role to play in determining how the fight develops. I just hope the referee Cortez allows [Hatton] to get inside because that will be his best tactic"

Hatton pleaded with referee Cortez to let fight flow beforehand in an interview too, so he was aware of the influence joe would have prior to the fight. Compare cortez's interference with the hatton/castillo fight (HARDLY INTERVENED!) and then watch him in the mayweather/hatton fight (He broke the two when they touched for more than a split second and took a point from Hatton for an illegal punch that didn't even land LOL!)

Check out cortez in the Whitaker vs. Savarese fight! He told Savarese to get up. I think if he hadn't whitaker would have won by KO.

So sorry but cortez ruined that fight for hatton. It seemed like cortez ignored a lot of floyd being the one who was holding on in clinches and was using his forearm-elbow push off constantly and wasn't really warned about it. Stopping ricky from fighting on the inside is like taking wladimir klitschko's jab away!

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That old chestnut :rolleyes:

I love the guys who keep holding on to this bullshit notion that had another ref been in charge (Ohhh, I dunno, maybe someone legit like Dave Paris? :rolleyes: ) that the fight would have been different..I guess we weren't watching the same fight where Floyd was owning Ricky inside and out? Watch round 8 again if you want any indication of how every round would have gone had Ricky been able to use his illegal, ugly tactics. There was barely any interference in that round and we all saw how that round went for Ricky.

Funny though, I very rarely see any Ricky fans mention that the fight between he and Tzsyu might have been different had we had a legit referee for that fight?

Hatton fans like to look at him through those Ricky tinted :cool:

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By the ref yes! Also hatton is better suited to LWW. All the odds were in floyd's favour that night, the ref, home town, his division! Cortez played a big part in that fight! Floyd beat's ricky 9 times out of 10 but a hatton who is allowed to 'dog it up ' (Which was hatton's Modus operandi after all!) on the inside give's floyd a much harder night! Hatton pre-tszyu (not the UK media darling fighting in the US) gives floyd a rough night IMO.

Barry Mcguigan: "Joe Cortez was very biased I thought" I agree. Also mcguigan stated before the fight "Cortez will have a crucial role to play in determining how the fight develops. I just hope the referee Cortez allows [Hatton] to get inside because that will be his best tactic"

Hatton pleaded with referee Cortez to let fight flow beforehand in an interview too, so he was aware of the influence joe would have prior to the fight. Compare cortez's interference with the hatton/castillo fight (HARDLY INTERVENED!) and then watch him in the mayweather/hatton fight (He broke the two when they touched for more than a split second and took a point from Hatton for an illegal punch that didn't even land LOL!)

Check out cortez in the Whitaker vs. Savarese fight! He told Savarese to get up. I think if he hadn't whitaker would have won by KO.

So sorry but cortez ruined that fight for hatton. It seemed like cortez ignored a lot of floyd being the one who was holding on in clinches and was using his forearm-elbow push off constantly and wasn't really warned about it. Stopping ricky from fighting on the inside is like taking wladimir klitschko's jab away!

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Besides you highlighted my "steamrolled" comment - I wasn't even talking about the Floyd fight in that quote. Ricky mentioned that about the 2nd round of the Pacquiao fight where he got his lights turned out. Nice guy but utterly deluded and needs some solid team members to be totally honest with him.

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Remember folks, this is the same guy that said, "There's no way Floyd can knock me out, he must be mad" and "I was winning the 2nd round by a country mile!" in a fight where he was steamrolled

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By the ref yes! Also hatton is better suited to LWW. All the odds were in floyd's favour that night, the ref, home town, his division! Cortez played a big part in that fight! Floyd beat's ricky 9 times out of 10 but a hatton who is allowed to 'dog it up ' (Which was hatton's Modus operandi after all!) on the inside give's floyd a much harder night! Hatton pre-tszyu (not the UK media darling fighting in the US) gives floyd a rough night IMO.

Barry Mcguigan: "Joe Cortez was very biased I thought" I agree. Also mcguigan stated before the fight "Cortez will have a crucial role to play in determining how the fight develops. I just hope the referee Cortez allows [Hatton] to get inside because that will be his best tactic"

Hatton pleaded with referee Cortez to let fight flow beforehand in an interview too, so he was aware of the influence joe would have prior to the fight. Compare cortez's interference with the hatton/castillo fight (HARDLY INTERVENED!) and then watch him in the mayweather/hatton fight (He broke the two when they touched for more than a split second and took a point from Hatton for an illegal punch that didn't even land LOL!)

Check out cortez in the Whitaker vs. Savarese fight! He told Savarese to get up. I think if he hadn't whitaker would have won by KO.

So sorry but cortez ruined that fight for hatton. It seemed like cortez ignored a lot of floyd being the one who was holding on in clinches and was using his forearm-elbow push off constantly and wasn't really warned about it. Stopping ricky from fighting on the inside is like taking wladimir klitschko's jab away!

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Besides you highlighted my "steamrolled" comment - I wasn't even talking about the Floyd fight in that quote. Ricky mentioned that about the 2nd round of the Pacquiao fight where he got his lights turned out. Nice guy but utterly deluded and needs some solid team members to be totally honest with him.

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Maybe with all your massive boxing experience you should offer to be that "solid team member":rolleyes:

Yeah, what put me off him was after the Tyzu fight... It seemed like he was surrounded by yes men making him believe the hype that he was this unrelenting force who could just walk through anybody.

It was part of his down fall. He'd make a meal out of stopping a guy like carlos maussa... and it would never make anybody think 'a change of tactics is needed' or 'we need to refine his skills on an elite level'. No... It was always 'ricky had a cold during training, that's we he struggled a bit', then back to thinking that he could just smash and grab anybody.

..and yeah, for fans of a guy who is meant to be 'humble and down to earth', it's ironic when people won't just give Floyd props for the W.

I have no problem with the mayweather outcome for the dude whining about chestnuts, however it is pretty clear cortez played his part! Such is boxing...

Stop hating on the hitman, he's a legend.

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Yeah, what put me off him was after the Tyzu fight... It seemed like he was surrounded by yes men making him believe the hype that he was this unrelenting force who could just walk through anybody.

It was part of his down fall. He'd make a meal out of stopping a guy like carlos maussa... and it would never make anybody think 'a change of tactics is needed' or 'we need to refine his skills on an elite level'. No... It was always 'ricky had a cold during training, that's we he struggled a bit', then back to thinking that he could just smash and grab anybody.

..and yeah, for fans of a guy who is meant to be 'humble and down to earth', it's ironic when people won't just give Floyd props for the W.

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It was this same hype that introduced Hatton to Pacquiao's straight left in the 2nd round of their fight.
After that, the "yes men" slinked quietly away.

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Yeah, what put me off him was after the Tyzu fight... It seemed like he was surrounded by yes men making him believe the hype that he was this unrelenting force who could just walk through anybody.

It was part of his down fall. He'd make a meal out of stopping a guy like carlos maussa... and it would never make anybody think 'a change of tactics is needed' or 'we need to refine his skills on an elite level'. No... It was always 'ricky had a cold during training, that's we he struggled a bit', then back to thinking that he could just smash and grab anybody.

..and yeah, for fans of a guy who is meant to be 'humble and down to earth', it's ironic when people won't just give Floyd props for the W.

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It was this same hype that introduced Hatton to Pacquiao's straight left in the 2nd round of their fight.
After that, the "yes men" slinked quietly away.

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Well done floyd. Happy?

What 'yes' men? I am a fan have i slinked away? No! I though it would be a tough ask to beat mayweather and i was proved right. What is wrong in supporting a fighter? Theres no 'slinking away 'going on with ricky hatton, never has been! The guy lost, it happens.

Mate, im quite happy to accept floyd is a great fighter (personally i prefer pacqiauo, sergio martinez and amateur legend vasyl lomachenko!) I will admit though that floyd is special (like calzaghe and marciano were!) Losing to floyd (especially with the odds stacked against u) is nothing to be ashamed of, however i do think cortez played his part and il stand by that!

Problem with floyd is his EGO and his unwillingness to fight the two best P4P fighters of his era (sergio and manny!) Fighting a 40 yr old oscar and shane is not a thing of greatness!

The same people who moan about fighters taking easy fights and how every opponent in Hatton's career up to Tyzu were easy, walk in the park, b-grade fighters, are exactly the same people that criticise him for daring to think he had chance against, what by their exacting standards would constitute credible opposition. Of course they are not haters simply fight fans with a distaste for those who would seek to challenge themselves and exceed the same peoples low expectations of them.:rolleyes:

And yes Ricky talked a great fight and then went into the two big challenges of his life trying to take off the heads of two supposed demi-gods. It hardly seems worthy of the contempt that many seem to have of him. It is even more weird coming from British Boxing fans. Yes he had limitations but he gave far more to the sport than any other boxer in the UK since Lennox Lewis. So yeah you may not be a fan of his but to take such gratification in seeing his career end the way it did is a bit much. It is almost as heartless as Pacquiao who after nailing him ignored the fact the guy for a moment looked in real danger on the canvas.

He played an important part in both Pacquiao and FMJ careers by exposing them to a new sector, a new audience who may not have watched them before and Floyd refers to him as a true warrior not a chump, but hey lets just focus on the negative and dismiss his achievements as if he were a nobody.

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The same people who moan about fighters taking easy fights and how every opponent in Hatton's career up to Tyzu were easy, walk in the park, b-grade fighters, are exactly the same people that criticise him for daring to think he had chance against, what by their exacting standards would constitute credible opposition. Of course they are not haters simply fight fans with a distaste for those who would seek to challenge themselves and exceed the same peoples low expectations of them.:rolleyes:

And yes Ricky talked a great fight and then went into the two big challenges of his life trying to take off the heads of two supposed demi-gods. It hardly seems worthy of the contempt that many seem to have of him. It is even more weird coming from British Boxing fans. Yes he had limitations but he gave far more to the sport than any other boxer in the UK since Lennox Lewis. So yeah you may not be a fan of his but to take such gratification in seeing his career end the way it did is a bit much. It is almost as heartless as Pacquiao who after nailing him ignored the fact the guy for a moment looked in real danger on the canvas.

He played an important part in both Pacquiao and FMJ careers by exposing them to a new sector, a new audience who may not have watched them before and Floyd refers to him as a true warrior not a chump, but hey lets just focus on the negative and dismiss his achievements as if he were a nobody.

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Good post.