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Looks like Khan, has a new trainer Virgil Hunter to me he has dealt with this totally unprofessional,
in his pro career up to now this is his 4th trainer. Khan had delusions of grandeur, expecting Roche to
drop, Manny and Jr, what a fool he is. Sorry but he's not a legend, may be in his own front room I
can't see him improving. Khan down fall NO CHIN , he does not need a new trainer maybe a stonemason
to make him a granite chin. ;)
Khan is a bit silly IMO, but he is young and he will make mistakes. His career is also on a knife edge. He messed up, but it is the common excuse to change trainer and say that was the problem. Khan just boxes like a prat, all you can do is tell him not to.
He wants a trainer dedicated to him which Roach wasn't able to be. What's wrong with that? (although he'll be playing second fiddle to Andre Ward with Virgil Hunter)
Fuck knows why they're so obsessed with American trainers? What does Kahn have to learn apart from stop being so gung-ho?
Anyone could train him. I'll only charge him 9.5% for my knowledge.
You are being harsh on Khan. Amir did know Roach would never drop Manny or Junior and he did not even ask. He needs a trainer to work with him and not have to travel to accommodate the trainer. Khan can improve his defence a lot and once that is perfected he can become a world champion and force again in the division.
Harsh yes, but a realist Khan gets drawn into a brawl you don't have to be a big puncher to drop him,Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
if you are honest with yourself you Know I'm right.
At top flight, you will get hit no mater how good your defence ever body get hit and you need a half
decent, chin and that something Khan lacks. First class boxer and good to watch, but when he fights
he will always have that chink in his armour.;)
Many quality fighters have achieved a lot more such as Lewis and Hearns with a suspect chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoHarsh yes, but a realist Khan gets drawn into a brawl you don't have to be a big puncher to drop him,Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
if you are honest with yourself you Know I'm right.
At top flight, you will get hit no mater how good your defence ever body get hit and you need a half
decent, chin and that something Khan lacks. First class boxer and good to watch, but when he fights
he will always have that chink in his armour.;)
I think angel garcia mentally beat khan with the indian cant fight thing.
Khan wanted to fight and got caught again.
Whats the point in boxing if all a fighter/promoter is going to do is avoid big punchers?
I take it khans next fight is paulie again and then perhaps peterson.
Khan is much like Chad Dawson.....he's a flake. I think Amir needs to box more, he needs to stick and move. Maybe he can find success away from Roach, lord knows he has the handspeed to do it, but time is running out on him reaching his true potential he must act quickly and mesh with a new trainer.
Does he remain with Alex Ariza though?
What should be next for Khan, is a quick return to the ring. I'll go with January and maybe get 4 fights in 2013. Between 140 and 147, Khan will surely get a high profile fight.
Peterson, Judah, Garcia, Morales, Alexander, Hatton, and Berto, Paulie, Bradley. And if he stay at 140, Gamboa and Broner will be there next year. And if he can dominate, Mayweather and Pacman at 147. Basically, Khan can still get back to the top. But he's in a win or go home situation.
Khan's downfall is not that he doesn't have a good chin. It is that he does fundamental things wrong:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
1-doesn't fight behind the jab enough
2-doesn't tuck his chin (ask BHOP about keeping it tucked at all times)
3-MOST IMPORTANTLY-he jumps/lunges in. When you have your chin in the air, and you jump/lunge in, then you are wide open and prepare to get hurt.
Well it looks like the fight that I called right after his last fight, is what Golden Boy is looking to do.
Here's the thread where I called it.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...an-anyone.html
I just seen this on Dan Rafael's Twitter.
danrafaelespn Dan Rafael
I was told that @GoldenBoyBoxing offered @hboboxing a December fight between @amirKingKhan and Humberto Soto and was turned down. #boxing
Just because HBO turned it down, doesn't mean Showtime will.
Interesting point's people made, but over all Khan is flawed starting out his career dropped by none
punchers, I said at the time his chin is not up to it.
Really it was Know shock, to see him getting ko twice and don't be surprised if it happens again,
regarding trainers, I go with what Fenster said.
Myself I feel Khan, has to win his next fight or he is finished , for all his talking about he needs a change
of trainer, I for one don't think it will make that much difference.:)
I think a change of trainers WILL make a difference for him. He still has time to learn more about the art of defense, and a great team to learn that from is Ward / Hunter. He needs to learn how to protect that chin, a little less offense, and also how to fight better on the inside, which he currently has very low ability in. Hunter and Ward can help him with all of that.
Khan also needs to learn how to get in and out a little quicker IMO, by maybe putting together one or two less punches at a time. I know he's very quick, but putting so many punches together in one combo actually just makes him slower and more open when he's letting go, the gaps are there for a larger amount of time, and thats what Garcia seemed to capitalise on. Just let your shots go when Khan opens up his light punching combos of five or six shots. He can really help himself defensively if he keeps the 5 and 6 punch combinations to a minimum and only when his opponent is in a poor position to provide anything in counter. you'll rarely see Ward putting that many shots together in one go, he's far too smart defensively for that
Hopefully that isn't a bunch of rubbish. Going on my prediction scores this week it may well be..
The thing is his opponents, no they have a good chance of beating him, were doe's Khan go he has to face top opposition.Let's face it not all are feather fisted,if he moves up in weight they will punch harder. So he is between a rock and a hard place, may be a fight with Hatton if he is successful in hisQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagician
comeback, some were down the line.It's a fight the Brits would watch,and would make the both a lot of money.:)
He needs to learn how to defend his chin better. Hit and not get hit. And he needs to learn what to do on the inside or up against the ropes rather than just freezing and cover up. Maidana and Peterson both smashed him up when on the inside and Garcia let the punches fly when Khan opened up on 5 and 6 punch combos when he's chin is dangling about like a carrot unprotected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoThe thing is his opponents, no they have a good chance of beating him, were doe's Khan go he has to face top opposition.Let's face it not all are feather fisted,if he moves up in weight they will punch harder. So he is between a rock and a hard place, may be a fight with Hatton if he is successful in hisQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMacMagician
comeback, some were down the line.It's a fight the Brits would watch,and would make the both a lot of money.:)
He has the speed, reflexes and athleticism to still mix it with the top 10 if he defends himself better and uses his quick feet for better angles rather than running backwards or freezing against ropes.
If all goes to plan Khan will have one or two fights at 140 against nonpunchers he can beat while Hatton gets one or two wins. Then they meet in a massive earner for both of them.
Khan can't really fight any top welters due to his chin. I'm guessing Golden Boy feed him one or two guys he can beat and somehow get him some kind of belt before Khan and Hatton both cash in.
He needs to stay on the outside and stick and move, get in and get out and not get involved in a war. He has the ability to box and cause any fighter problems with his speed. He can hurt fighters by boxing like that and he needs to be more patient by fighting that way. He would find openings by fighting like this and would have a better chance of winning fights.
He needs a fight back home IMO, I reckon Theopane wouldn't be a bad fight for him.
Khan seem's to get drawn,into a brawl trouble is for all his fight plan discipline goes out the window,
he is a very good boxer and a half descent puncher. So in all he's a pretty good fighter, but when he
gets beat he cant take the blame, its the trainers fault never his own.
When he open's his mouth, he makes himself look a Plonker.;D
Did he not brag when 23, about retiring at 28 as world champ.
Well he is bang on to retire, not really world class anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by boyla
Fighters should not predict when they will retire, it always goes wrong. Haye, Hopkins, Benn are some fighters I know who made these predictions and never saw them through. Khan needs to fight in the UK next and forget US but it may be Ortiz.
Also Khan is world class.