He has plenty of options including a rematch with Junior, Golovkin, Geale, Canelo, Cotto, or Mayweather. What makes the most sense?
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He has plenty of options including a rematch with Junior, Golovkin, Geale, Canelo, Cotto, or Mayweather. What makes the most sense?
He's looking for that big payday, so i'm guessing it's going to be Canelo or Cotto. Those two would do some good PPV numbers. I would love for him to move up to 168 and fight Ward, i think it would be a great fight.
I'd like to see Sergio fight someone else besides Junior, who really doesn't deserve a rematch.
The hardcore fan in me would love to see Ward vs Martinez. I'd of course would favor Ward but we all know that it's not going to happen. They both don't have a big name as far as ppv attraction goes. So what makes sense or what's actually a possible match up would be Cotto. Canelo is 22 and I don't think going up and wait and fighting Sergio in his first fight would be a great move so that doesn't get my interest. Mayweather vs Sergio would be good but doubt Mayweather would take the fight. So I'll settle for Cotto... Lastly I won't lie I would love to see a JR rematch but not now maybe 2 fights down the road just because of that last round. You can argue that he doesn't deserve one but after nearly being stopped I just want to see if Jr can crank up the pressure earlier and get the KO.
I agree. A rematch at the end of 2013 would be good. But until then, Double G got to get his shot and will give Martinez a headache. Jr can face Geale.
It would be awesome to see Sergio get in the ring with Golovkin, I think Triple GGG would put a whipping on Sergio and finish him inside the distance but it would be a great fight while it lasted.
But I dont think Sergio is going to go that way, a fight with Cotto would be good and I think Sergio wins that fight on points. I would also love to see Sergio in with a hungry, trained, and motivated James Kirkland. Sergio should win that fight but Kirklands power would make the fight real intereting.
Kirkland has no chance against Martinez. Kirkland can't take a punch. Saul or Cotto would be great. Better if those two fight each other then face Martinez after his hand and knee heals.
Kirkland has no chance against Martinez. Kirkland can't take a punch. Saul or Cotto would be great. Better if those two fight each other then face Martinez after his hand and knee heals.
Could not agree more. At least Charles and Walcott had a case with Marciano. I'd like to see him fight Geale in Australia and get that much close to full unification. I realize the chances are slim as most likely the governing bodies wont allow it but its ideal if one laments for unification and one champ in each division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Floyd is obviously the biggest money fight but I think weight would really be an issue unless Floyd wants to emulate Leonard.
I think 168 is just to big for him so a Ward fight is off the table imo.
Think Cotto/Canelo will be next May.
Sergio will be 38 in February. Now I know he started late but he's going to wake up one day and just not have it anymore so I think he will make a concerted effort to get Floyd.
I can't believe I'm the only one who voted for Mayweather. That seems like the clear answer to me (in an ideal world).
I voted Geale because I desire unification. The last man to unify a division completely was Hopkins.Quote:
Originally Posted by shza
sergio is going to pick the biggest money fight. Of the 4 biggest money fights, I doubt Cotto or Mayweather would take the fight. I doubt Golden Boy would let Canelo take the fight. So I think Chavez Jr. rematch is what we will end up with.
why is weight an issue? Martinez has said he could make 154. He only weighs about 167-168 in the ring at 160 (which happens to be about the same as Canelo probably weighs).Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitCould not agree more. At least Charles and Walcott had a case with Marciano. I'd like to see him fight Geale in Australia and get that much close to full unification. I realize the chances are slim as most likely the governing bodies wont allow it but its ideal if one laments for unification and one champ in each division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Floyd is obviously the biggest money fight but I think weight would really be an issue unless Floyd wants to emulate Leonard.
I think 168 is just to big for him so a Ward fight is off the table imo.
Think Cotto/Canelo will be next May.
Sergio will be 38 in February. Now I know he started late but he's going to wake up one day and just not have it anymore so I think he will make a concerted effort to get Floyd.
168 would be a problem considering he is smallish for 160.
That was then and this is now. It was 155. That is not Floyds style. If Floyd was interested in the middleweight title he would not ask for a catchweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddewwhy is weight an issue? Martinez has said he could make 154. He only weighs about 167-168 in the ring at 160 (which happens to be about the same as Canelo probably weighs).Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitCould not agree more. At least Charles and Walcott had a case with Marciano. I'd like to see him fight Geale in Australia and get that much close to full unification. I realize the chances are slim as most likely the governing bodies wont allow it but its ideal if one laments for unification and one champ in each division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Floyd is obviously the biggest money fight but I think weight would really be an issue unless Floyd wants to emulate Leonard.
I think 168 is just to big for him so a Ward fight is off the table imo.
Think Cotto/Canelo will be next May.
Sergio will be 38 in February. Now I know he started late but he's going to wake up one day and just not have it anymore so I think he will make a concerted effort to get Floyd.
168 would be a problem considering he is smallish for 160.
Martinez-Cotto would be a tremendous fight, although the size difference would be a big factor. Martinez-Alvarez would be also entertaining as hell. Mayweather, to me, is not a realistic option nor an appealing fight. Martinez-Golovkin sounds like a hell of a fight. And Martinez-Ward sounds intriguing. I'd be afraid of a boring fight, though. Just a hunch on that one.
Martinez vs Ward might be a short fight but not boring!!!
I really doubt GB let's Canelo anywhere near Martinez...
It's getting very interesting now, most people say Alvarez and i agree with them, Sergio would also find it very difficult with Geale. We are going to see some great match ups here for the next 12 months.
I would like to see Martinez bust up the ginger one.
I voted Mayweather, he deserves the fight, and I think it would be a great fight.
No way against Cotto!!!!! I cannot have my men fighting each other!!! I honestly don't think that I could watch that fight. :cwm31:
Nonsense, I would let them fight tomorrow. Alvarez would have more trouble with Martinez than Cotto but is capable of beating both. Golvolkin ends Martinez career. Sergio should fight Geale, he wins that one easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Golovkin or Geale
Floyd fought Marquez at a catchweight. I could see him doing the same with Martinez. On the other hand, if I were Floyd, I would face (1) Pacquiao and (2) Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitThat was then and this is now. It was 155. That is not Floyds style. If Floyd was interested in the middleweight title he would not ask for a catchweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddewwhy is weight an issue? Martinez has said he could make 154. He only weighs about 167-168 in the ring at 160 (which happens to be about the same as Canelo probably weighs).Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitCould not agree more. At least Charles and Walcott had a case with Marciano. I'd like to see him fight Geale in Australia and get that much close to full unification. I realize the chances are slim as most likely the governing bodies wont allow it but its ideal if one laments for unification and one champ in each division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Floyd is obviously the biggest money fight but I think weight would really be an issue unless Floyd wants to emulate Leonard.
I think 168 is just to big for him so a Ward fight is off the table imo.
Think Cotto/Canelo will be next May.
Sergio will be 38 in February. Now I know he started late but he's going to wake up one day and just not have it anymore so I think he will make a concerted effort to get Floyd.
168 would be a problem considering he is smallish for 160.
For me, it's either Canelo or Cotto. No offense @Diane and @TitoFan, correct me if I'm wrong, but Cotto has ducked Martinez in the past. There's a history there.
I agree with @CutMeMick, I can't see Golden Boy putting Canelo in with Martinez at this stage. Canelo called out Mayweather and Cotto after he beat the undersized Lopez--no mention of Martinez.
Ward would beat up Martinez at 168. I don't see that fight as competitive. At that weight, I'm not sure Martinez even has a puncher's chance. If Ward roughed up Kessler and Green, he would maul a smaller Martinez. In any event, Dibella has made it clear Martinez won't go up in weight.
In terms of a fight with Junior, let's see Junior rebound from this loss and beat someone like Macklin first.
I'm high on Golovkin's potential as well, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. With Golovkin, I want to see him face the winner of N'Jikam and Quillin.
Martinez is saying he doesn't fancy fighting in Texas what with their judges and lack of serious drug testing, tiny rings etc. He says he'd rather fight Cotto at catchweight. I'm guessing this is just two starting positions for further negotiation though.
If his knee is bad he might not fight again for a year. Sulaiman will have stripped him by then and Junior may have gone to 168. Just because Junior says he wants a rematch doesn't mean he really wants one.
I think he should go for Geale and work towards becoming an undisputed champ.
He should go on a publicity blitz after Mayweather. He has options from 160-154 and Chavez needs to redefine his approach or frankly I think he's peaked. Canello would be fun tv and another high profile crossroads type clash but I just don't think Alvarez has had to dig deep enough to jump in against a streaking Martinez even at 37 but I'd pay to see them go. Not liking Ward at 168, think that's pushing it for him. Cotto is maketable and more than willing but I like him too much to want him to face Sergio. Don't think that goes well for Miguel. I gotta agree with Rant on Golovkin, just need to see him do more. What about a Lara at 154, too early? Nice styles clash.
Sergio should fight where he will make the most money and is a realistic chance that it will happen. That is going to be Junior as Arum is keen on it, a venue is very interested and Sergio will at least get parity. Martinez deserves pay days like Manny and Floyd are earning.
I think Sergio beats Alvarez, Golovkin and Geale...Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzNonsense, I would let them fight tomorrow. Alvarez would have more trouble with Martinez than Cotto but is capable of beating both. Golvolkin ends Martinez career. Sergio should fight Geale, he wins that one easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
I also think Cotto beats Alvarez & JCC Jr... I'm one of the very few he believed Cotto still had it in him when many wrote him off as done and past it.
I see Sergio resting after surgery and not fighting until early 2013...
Cotto and Alvarez seem to be lining up really nice.
Alvarez just fought didn't even break a sweat and Cotto fights Trout in Dec.
Cotto takes a month off or so and he and Alvarez can meet May/June of 2013.
Something tells me though Alvarez will fight someone like Bundrage or Kirkland.
PBF will probably wait around and see what Sergio does and have him drop down to 154 and they meet there.
*disclaimer I've been drinking since the morning so bare with me here on this predictions. :drunks:
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Originally Posted by RantcatratFloyd fought Marquez at a catchweight. I could see him doing the same with Martinez. On the other hand, if I were Floyd, I would face (1) Pacquiao and (2) Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitThat was then and this is now. It was 155. That is not Floyds style. If Floyd was interested in the middleweight title he would not ask for a catchweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by captainanddewwhy is weight an issue? Martinez has said he could make 154. He only weighs about 167-168 in the ring at 160 (which happens to be about the same as Canelo probably weighs).Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitCould not agree more. At least Charles and Walcott had a case with Marciano. I'd like to see him fight Geale in Australia and get that much close to full unification. I realize the chances are slim as most likely the governing bodies wont allow it but its ideal if one laments for unification and one champ in each division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Floyd is obviously the biggest money fight but I think weight would really be an issue unless Floyd wants to emulate Leonard.
I think 168 is just to big for him so a Ward fight is off the table imo.
Think Cotto/Canelo will be next May.
Sergio will be 38 in February. Now I know he started late but he's going to wake up one day and just not have it anymore so I think he will make a concerted effort to get Floyd.
168 would be a problem considering he is smallish for 160.
For me, it's either Canelo or Cotto. No offense @Diane and @TitoFan, correct me if I'm wrong, but Cotto has ducked Martinez in the past. There's a history there.
I agree with @CutMeMick, I can't see Golden Boy putting Canelo in with Martinez at this stage. Canelo called out Mayweather and Cotto after he beat the undersized Lopez--no mention of Martinez.
Ward would beat up Martinez at 168. I don't see that fight as competitive. At that weight, I'm not sure Martinez even has a puncher's chance. If Ward roughed up Kessler and Green, he would maul a smaller Martinez. In any event, Dibella has made it clear Martinez won't go up in weight.
In terms of a fight with Junior, let's see Junior rebound from this loss and beat someone like Macklin first.
That was different. Marquez was tiny and even then Floyd weighed over. I just don't see Floyd ever asking a man higher to come lower. And again I think Floyd is a little haunted buy the shadow of Leonard and Martinez is not bigger then Hagler.
I think the Pac fight is deader then dead and I just don't see Oscar tossing his main tit to Floyd
I would love to see Golovkin-Junior but there's obviously no way Arum makes that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Golovkin vs. N'Jikam/Quillin winner or Geale would be good fights. Though I think Geale deserves a Sergio fight more than anyone (but I don't see it as competitive and Sergio is out for bigger fish ($$) at this point).
Agreed completely. Geale versus Martinez is a great unification fight, although I can understand why Martinez wants Cotto or Canelo.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI would love to see Golovkin-Junior but there's obviously no way Arum makes that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Golovkin vs. N'Jikam/Quillin winner or Geale would be good fights. Though I think Geale deserves a Sergio fight more than anyone (but I don't see it as competitive and Sergio is out for bigger fish ($$) at this point).
Martinez obviously wants the biggest paydays for however many fights are left in him. Dream dance partners are :
Floyd. After being in a hell of a fight against Cotto will Floyd fancy fighting Martinez? Floyd would rather fight somebody with a big fanbase like Canelo or Cotto (or Manny) so that the PPV makes maximum dollars.
Canelo. Can't see GBP making that fight. I think Canelo might be fighting two or three GBP fighters before they risk him against any elite level guy.
Cotto. Same thing for Cotto as far as the PPV goes. Cotto is going to get a belt back and then try for Floyd or Canelo which would be a massive Mexico-Puerto Rico fight.
Not even going to mention Manny, no way Arum would consider it or Manny would move up to 154.
So issues with the biggest three names Martinez could face. That leaves JCC Junior or maybe Cotto if Floyd doesn't want a rematch and Canelo is kept in-house for a while. Other than that it's a non-PPV fight against Geale/Golovkin or somebody like that.